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Bojo will be gone in 1 week
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The report from Sue Gray, no?
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Originally Posted by
MOZZER2
He spent 5 days preparing for an interview and within 15 minutes of putting his foot on the accelerator he had caused a massive pile up whilst looking like Alan Minter did shortly before Marvin Hagler knocked him out of the ring. He's toast!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=InYtITXRZ7Q
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MOZZER2
"..says Tory MP"
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This is quite an unfortunate typo.
The Ghanian foreign ministry has referred to the reported plans to save Boris Johnson as "Operation Dead Meat", rather than "Operation Red Meat" (referring to "red meat" policies being thrown to voters).
:hehe:
https://news.sky.com/story/boris-joh...itics-12514080
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Originally Posted by
jon1959
This is quite an unfortunate typo.
The Ghanian foreign ministry has referred to the reported plans to save Boris Johnson as "Operation Dead Meat", rather than "Operation Red Meat" (referring to "red meat" policies being thrown to voters).
:hehe:
https://news.sky.com/story/boris-joh...itics-12514080
A Freudian slip.
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Nobody told him it was a rule breaking event.
😂😂😂😂😂😂
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Originally Posted by
life on mars
Step up Dishy
Yes it will make a refreshing change to have someone steely when under enemy attack. Shame there wasn't a fridge handy!
https://news.sky.com/video/downing-s...izzed-12519075
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Shame, they got someone in to get brexit done who will now get to avoid all responsibility of that monumentally stupid decision.
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Tory MP Christian Wakeford defects to Labour.
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Originally Posted by
the other bob wilson
Tory MP Christian Wakeford defects to Labour.
Started with the defection ended with the prominent conservative MP David Davies telling him to go WOW!!!
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Originally Posted by
the other bob wilson
Tory MP Christian Wakeford defects to Labour.
Massive news that. You can guarantee that there are probably a dozen or so red-wallers behind him too considering doing the same.
It's also interesting for Labour. Starmer will use it to show he can afford to lose Corbyn, who he is refusing to let back into the party. It also illustrates a potential new flank in Labours support; he's pro brexit and sat there in a union flag facemask.
You may not like it, but he is exactly the sort of person Labour need to win the next general election and he's exactly the sort of politician that would convince me it's okay to vote Labour.
On the other hand, it may create some disquiet within Labour I guess, but overall it's a clear win for them
Boris has to go sharpish. He's right on a lot of his economic defences etc but he's totally a damaged brand now.
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Originally Posted by
JamesWales
Massive news that. You can guarantee that there are probably a dozen or so red-wallers behind him too considering doing the same.
It's also interesting for Labour. Starmer will use it to show he can afford to lose Corbyn, who he is refusing to let back into the party. It also illustrates a potential new flank in Labours support; he's pro brexit and sat there in a union flag facemask.
You may not like it, but he is exactly the sort of person Labour need to win the next general election and he's exactly the sort of politician that would convince me it's okay to vote Labour.
On the other hand, it may create some disquiet within Labour I guess, but overall it's a clear win for them
Boris has to go sharpish. He's right on a lot of his economic defences etc but he's totally a damaged brand now.
So pro brexit wear a union flag face mask and they get your vote.
Weve got a fuel cost crisis but stand behind a flag and mask send a few boats out to stop the migrants sing rule Brittania thats what gets the vote.
We are fecked as a country.
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Originally Posted by
Hilts
So pro brexit wear a union flag face mask and they get your vote.
Weve got a fuel cost crisis but stand behind a flag and mask send a few boats out to stop the migrants sing rule Brittania thats what gets the vote.
We are fecked as a country.
Im hoping a few people will start to wake up after all this nonsense. They may well learn a valuable lesson...all that glitters is not gold.
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Originally Posted by
Hilts
So pro brexit wear a union flag face mask and they get your vote.
Weve got a fuel cost crisis but stand behind a flag and mask send a few boats out to stop the migrants sing rule Brittania thats what gets the vote.
We are fecked as a country.
Flags + empty slogans + the entire media establishment behind you = Brexit and the tory government.
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Originally Posted by
Hilts
So pro brexit wear a union flag face mask and they get your vote.
Weve got a fuel cost crisis but stand behind a flag and mask send a few boats out to stop the migrants sing rule Brittania thats what gets the vote.
We are fecked as a country.
Why must you deliberately misunderstand the point people are making?
Quite clearly not. It's nothing to do with him wearing a mask, although that was a deliberate act on his part.
No, the point is, Labour have been pretty anti-brexit for a few years, and probably lost a lot of seats as a result.
If they are now shifting towards making Brexit work, as opposed to trying to prevent it happening, then they will gain support in the kind of seats he represents.
Clearly you are pissed off about it mind, underlining how difficult it is to keep all factions together in politics.
What's your solution to the fuel crisis btw?
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Good to see Tories defecting to the new Tories
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Diana Johnson's question in PMQs today made me chuckle:
"When a Prime Minister is spending his time trying to convince the British public that he is stupid rather than dishonest, isn't it time for him to go?"
Oooff.
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Originally Posted by
Doucas
Flags + empty slogans + the entire media establishment behind you = Brexit and the tory government.
Talking about UK flags , slogans good to see the masked defector behind Sir Kier
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Originally Posted by
JamesWales
Why must you deliberately misunderstand the point people are making?
Quite clearly not. It's nothing to do with him wearing a mask, although that was a deliberate act on his part.
No, the point is, Labour have been pretty anti-brexit for a few years, and probably lost a lot of seats as a result.
If they are now shifting towards making Brexit work, as opposed to trying to prevent it happening, then they will gain support in the kind of seats he represents.
Clearly you are pissed off about it mind, underlining how difficult it is to keep all factions together in politics.
What's your solution to the fuel crisis btw?
I dont have a solution to the fuel crisis. However lets increase the pay of the thousands who have had a pay freeze , stop increasing the State Pension age , increase the minimum age in relation to the cost of living , dont cut the increase in UC , target the vulnerable and elderly who miss out on the millions of unclaimed allowances.
Tax avoidance needs to be sorted.
Its shameful as a country so many people relying on food banks.
The end to this pandemic needs to come sooner rather than later. Its ok ending restrictions but while the poorer countries are not getting vaccines another variant is always around the corner.
Is the UK Govt still blocking the patent waver?.
There are countries who could produce vaccines which cant. We need the world vaccinated. The UK has done fantastically with the vaccine program. But just lifting restrictions isnt going to mean a complete recovery with the virus still hanging over us and countries unable to produce vaccines.
Brexit is done. Next election it wont be a consideration. By the time the one after comes I hope the Brexiteers have been proved right and we are a thriving country. We will know by then if its been a success or not. Cummings himself has said he doesnt know if it will be a success.
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Originally Posted by
MOZZER2
It could well be - but maybe no one told Boris Johnson that blackmail and corruption is illegal?
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MOZZER2
5 days to go , if I was Labour I'd call a By Election in Bury South for the Brexiters who defected and test the publics opinion , as he only had a 402 majority .
Lucy Burke must feel down she was so close .
I think any defectors should go to a new election and Labour should romp home with there 14% poll lead .
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Originally Posted by
jon1959
It could well be - but maybe no one told Boris Johnson that blackmail and corruption is illegal?
Isn't it called whipping ooooooh missses , I remeber the same levied at the others whcih forced a denial , no smoke without fire
https://www.theguardian.com/politics...-fear-bullying
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-47191505
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-58664788
https://www.theguardian.com/politics...ying-and-abuse
https://www.theguardian.com/politics...ying-and-abuse
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Originally Posted by
life on mars
Bingo!
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No links to Priti Patel before during or after the enquiry??
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It's not the norm for there to be a by-election if someone switches parties, but really it should be.
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Originally Posted by
JamesWales
It's not the norm for there to be a by-election if someone switches parties, but really it should be.
No because the tradition has always been that the vote is for the candidate and not the party. However there has been calls for a parliamentary vote on the issue.
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JamesWales
It's not the norm for there to be a by-election if someone switches parties, but really it should be.
Agree 100%.
The vast majority of electors choose a party badge not a candidate.
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Originally Posted by
life on mars
Straight Question then
Why in almost every thread factually critical of Conservative Politicians or policies do you avoid or gloss over the substance of the issue raised and instead seek to deflect or project equal or greater sins onto other political parties or former party leaders?
Answer...
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Words absolutely fail me.
“I was told by Tory MPs, at the height of the Rashford row, that members of the govt were threatening to withhold money from schools in their (deprived) constituencies if they voted to extend free school meals. These practices aren’t new but Will Wragg has shone a light on them.”
More here https://twitter.com/benkentish/statu...862764546?s=21
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Originally Posted by
cyril evans awaydays
Straight Question then
Why in almost every thread factually critical of Conservative Politicians or policies do you avoid or gloss over the substance of the issue raised and instead seek to deflect or project equal or greater sins onto other political parties or former party leaders?
Answer...
He's the master of Whataboutery
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Originally Posted by
jon1959
Agree 100%.
The vast majority of electors choose a party badge not a candidate.
I actually agree with both of you on this one. I think the tradition is showing its age now.
As has been said overwhelmingly people vote for parties nowadays and not candidates; some people probably can't remember the name of the candidate they voted for but they will remember the party.
There have been notable exceptions down the years where a candidate/sitting MP has been hugely popular with voters of all colour and persuasions; David Amery was the most recent example. But that situation is the exception rather than the rule.
Nevertheless, it is easy to see why many people feel cheated if an MP has switched sides so I think a by-election would be the fairest outcome for all
Incidentally, it seems Christian Wakeford is not getting a ringing endorsement from all the Labour supporters in Bury South. Apart from the expected excoriating reception from Tory sympathisers, many Labour voters are wary of him and are dubious about the reasons for his defection. Many point out that his recent voting record on Universal Credit etc. has not been compatible with socialist values.
I notice today he has responded to the claims of whip's bullying by William Wragg today by claiming he too had been forced to vote against his convictions through intimidation. I wonder if he is attempting to curry favour?
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Originally Posted by
Dorcus
Incidentally, it seems Christian Wakeford is not getting a ringing endorsement from all the Labour supporters in Bury South. Apart from the expected excoriating reception from Tory sympathisers, many Labour voters are wary of him and are dubious about the reasons for his defection. Many point out that his recent voting record on Universal Credit etc. has not been compatible with socialist values.
His voting record:
https://www.theyworkforyou.com/mp/25...ry_south/votes
Welcomed with open arms by Starmer - the man who won't return the whip to Jeremy Corbyn!
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Originally Posted by
jon1959
In two words: depressing and desperate
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Best the MPs don't move to good old USA politics.
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Originally Posted by
jon1959
It could well be - but maybe no one told Boris Johnson that blackmail and corruption is illegal?
I could be wrong, but this has the feel of tomorrow’s chip wrapper to me, there needs to be more MPs backing up this story than Mr Wragg, who’s hardly a Johnson fan, and someone who defected to the Labour Party this week.
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Originally Posted by
the other bob wilson
I could be wrong, but this has the feel of tomorrow’s chip wrapper to me, there needs to be more MPs backing up this story than Mr Wragg, who’s hardly a Johnson fan, and someone who defected to the Labour Party this week.
It does feel as though Johnson will be able to ride this out for now.
I think it is probably better for Labour if he does too