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Visible protest inside the ground needed
Something along the lines of Man United's green and yellow scarves needed.
Something that gets the media talking and something visible for Tan.
A few hundred outside is a start but is it effective if the owner is thousands of miles away with his feet up watching on TV?
The club is being run horrendously and they need to know what the fans think.
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I love a well organised protest as much as the next man, but I think they’d be badly timed at the moment.
Give the new management team and this new striker a chance.
The team need the fans more than ever and I’d rather we put our energy into supporting them for now.
There are ways to protest that don’t impact the atmosphere inside the ground and I’d prefer those alternatives for the short term.
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Originally Posted by
UNDERHILL1927
I love a well organised protest as much as the next man, but I think they’d be badly timed at the moment.
Give the new management team and this new striker a chance.
The team need the fans more than ever and I’d rather we put our energy into supporting them for now.
There are ways to protest that don’t impact the atmosphere inside the ground and I’d prefer those alternatives for the short term.
I do see what you mean but when is the right time for this.
In a few months we will be in League 1 with the same board making the same mistakes.
The team and manager need our full backing definitely.
That's why I am thinking more scarves or something of that nature that is visible while backing the team.
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Until we have a viable new owner lined up any protests are pointless really
We are all pissed off but telling the club we are pissed off isn't going to do anything at all to alter the situation
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Re: Visible protest inside the ground needed
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Originally Posted by
blue lewj
I do see what you mean but when is the right time for this.
In a few months we will be in League 1 with the same board making the same mistakes.
The team and manager need our full backing definitely.
That's why I am thinking more scarves or something of that nature that is visible while backing the team.
Unless we have a change of ownership then clearly we are going to have the same people doing the same thing
Nothing can be done really I am afraid
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Originally Posted by
SLUDGE FACTORY
Unless we have a change of ownership then clearly we are going to have the same people doing the same thing
Nothing can be done really I am afraid
If fans aren't happy then surely there has to be some way of showing it?
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Re: Visible protest inside the ground needed
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Originally Posted by
blue lewj
Something along the lines of Man United's green and yellow scarves needed.
Something that gets the media talking and something visible for Tan.
A few hundred outside is a start but is it effective if the owner is thousands of miles away with his feet up watching on TV?
The club is being run horrendously and they need to know what the fans think.
From here we will either go down or stay up - mass protests aren't going to improve the way the team are playing.
The transfer window is closed, the only thing the board can do is sack the manager again and I can't see how that would help.
Doesn't seem like the right time to me at all
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Originally Posted by
Rjk
From here we will either go down or stay up - mass protests aren't going to improve the way the team are playing.
The transfer window is closed, the only thing the board can do is sack the manager again and I can't see how that would help.
Doesn't seem like the right time to me at all
When would the right time be in your opinion?
Protests happened at the last home game outside the ground.
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Originally Posted by
blue lewj
Something along the lines of Man United's green and yellow scarves needed.
Something that gets the media talking and something visible for Tan.
A few hundred outside is a start but is it effective if the owner is thousands of miles away with his feet up watching on TV?
The club is being run horrendously and they need to know what the fans think.
Not sure what you want the outcome of this to be?
But at the press conference to introduce the new manager Dalman was asked about the unrest with the fans and he said it was overstated (I think that was the word he used) and Sol also recognised the disconnect
between club and fans
So any protest would fall on deaf ears and if they don't get it now they never will and this will be coupled with falling number of people coming through the turnstiles
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Re: Visible protest inside the ground needed
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Originally Posted by
Nobody's Rep
Not sure what you want the outcome of this to be?
But at the press conference to introduce the new manager Dalman was asked about the unrest with the fans and he said it was overstated (I think that was the word he used) and Sol also recognised the disconnect
between club and fans
So any protest would fall on deaf ears and if they don't get it now they never will and this will be coupled with falling number of people coming through the turnstiles
Well to let them know that fans aren't happy obviously.
If Dalman thinks that fans being unhappy is overstated then he will see won't he.
I see it as a choice. The fans can voice their concern and try to bring about change (not necessarily Tan selling the club) or leave it as it is. For many it seems to be the latter.
If we don't do anything and just keep turning up and saying next to nothing then how will change come about? It is needed.
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Originally Posted by
blue lewj
Well to let them know that fans aren't happy obviously.
If Dalman thinks that fans being unhappy is overstated then he will see won't he.
I see it as a choice. The fans can voice their concern and try to bring about change (not necessarily Tan selling the club) or leave it as it is. For many it seems to be the latter.
If we don't do anything and just keep turning up and saying next to nothing then how will change come about? It is needed.
Don't agree change is needed but they lack self awareness at all levels and the fact they were asked directly a question about it and said it was overstated means they realise it but don't care as they try to dilute the level of discontent
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Originally Posted by
SLUDGE FACTORY
Until we have a viable new owner lined up any protests are pointless really
We are all pissed off but telling the club we are pissed off isn't going to do anything at all to alter the situation
Why then did you march against the war in iraq? The troops weren't pulled out a week later because bush and blair had received the memo. The point of protest is to show that as a group, we aren't happy, it's not a revolution.
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Originally Posted by
Nobody's Rep
Don't agree change is needed but they lack self awareness at all levels and the fact they were asked directly a question about it and said it was overstated means they realise it but don't care as they try to dilute the level of discontent
You don't agree that change is needed?
I'm not sure what more to say to be honest.
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Re: Visible protest inside the ground needed
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Originally Posted by
blue lewj
You don't agree that change is needed?
I'm not sure what more to say to be honest.
No it was a typo - I agree change is needed
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Re: Visible protest inside the ground needed
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Originally Posted by
Nobody's Rep
No it was a typo - I agree change is needed
Fair enough.
I'm just wanting anything, something to get it through to those in charge just how badly they're doing things.
You're probably right. They probably won't care but at least it would be something.
I just want our club back.
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Well if people don't protest and the board remain complacent there's only one route for the club. I'm not sure the board will be over concerned until people vote with their feet: then Tan will be in trouble.
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Re: Visible protest inside the ground needed
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Originally Posted by
blue lewj
Well to let them know that fans aren't happy obviously.
If Dalman thinks that fans being unhappy is overstated then he will see won't he.
I see it as a choice. The fans can voice their concern and try to bring about change (not necessarily Tan selling the club) or leave it as it is. For many it seems to be the latter.
If we don't do anything and just keep turning up and saying next to nothing then how will change come about? It is needed.
Support the team, not the regime.
Get your match ticket and turn up and cheer the boys on.
Boycott all other purchases that support the regime - do not buy any merchandise, food and drink, or matchday programmes.
If the ancillary sales fall off a cliff they will get the message quick enough.
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Originally Posted by
Dorcus
Well if people don't protest and the board remain complacent there's only one route for the club. I'm not sure the board will be over concerned until people vote with their feet: then Tan will be in trouble.
Season tickets are out soon.
It will be a very harsh reality for the club.
Sadly, it will probably be too late then as we're stuck with this squad.
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Originally Posted by
JumpersforGoalposts
Support the team, not the regime.
Get your match ticket and turn up and cheer the boys on.
Boycott all other purchases that support the regime - do not buy any merchandise, food and drink, or matchday programmes.
If the ancillary sales fall off a cliff they will get the message quick enough.
I'll be doing just that.
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Re: Visible protest inside the ground needed
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Originally Posted by
blue lewj
Fair enough.
I'm just wanting anything, something to get it through to those in charge just how badly they're doing things.
You're probably right. They probably won't care but at least it would be something.
I just want our club back.
I'm 45 years in this year to supporting the club and not sure at any point that I felt we had our club - even in the halcyon days of Warnock that was all a big con - I suppose when I was younger we limited our conversations to your mates and the pub and information sources were scant whereas as now everyone has a view whether they really support the club or not and some people are believed and others not as to those views for no rationale reason at all
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Re: Visible protest inside the ground needed
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Originally Posted by
blue lewj
Something along the lines of Man United's green and yellow scarves needed.
Something that gets the media talking and something visible for Tan.
A few hundred outside is a start but is it effective if the owner is thousands of miles away with his feet up watching on TV?
The club is being run horrendously and they need to know what the fans think.
Well organise something then.
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That’s the last thing we need. We need to back the team and the new manager.
Luton are 4th. Losing an away trip to them was always likely and those aren’t the games that will make or break our season. It’s the upcoming games against Birmingham, Reading and Hull that matter.
We’re still outside the relegation zone as bad as we’ve been. We just need to keep up that form until the end of the season.
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Is such a protest really going to help in the short term? Save it for the end of the season as it won't have any positive effects in the meantime.
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Have to agree with what seems like the majority on this one.
The players, coaching staff and management team don't need this at the moment. It's not their fault what decisions are made at the top.
In the press conference last week Bamba talked about needing to get the CCS back towards being a fortress again. I think some results will need to come before any atmosphere does but I don't think protests will help towards this.
I don't think it's possible to have the protests without it having a negative impact on this.
We all need to get behind the team and new manager to try and somehow survive
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Originally Posted by
Canton Kev
That’s the last thing we need. We need to back the team and the new manager.
Luton are 4th. Losing an away trip to them was always likely and those aren’t the games that will make or break our season. It’s the upcoming games against Birmingham, Reading and Hull that matter.
We’re still outside the relegation zone as bad as we’ve been. We just need to keep up that form until the end of the season.
Its was Luton in a poor championship. Its not like Man City when we at the bottom of the Championship.
We need to be going into every game looking to get points im sure our rivals will.
Shows how far weve dropped when we are writing points off v Luton Town.
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Originally Posted by
Hilts
Its was Luton in a poor championship. Its not like Man City when we at the bottom of the Championship.
We need to be going into every game looking to get points im sure our rivals will.
Shows how far weve dropped when we are writing points off v Luton Town.
:hehe:
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Some fans think there is genuine interest in buying the club.
I think if there was and they made themselves known I think protests would be likely.
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Originally Posted by
Hilts
Some fans think there is genuine interest in buying the club.
I think if there was and they made themselves known I think protests would be likely.
Some fans think we are in danger of a global apocalypse every few months.
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Re: Visible protest inside the ground needed
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Originally Posted by
Hilts
Well organise something then.
Seems there is little appetite for it sadly.
Football has changed a lot along with the fans.
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Re: Visible protest inside the ground needed
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Originally Posted by
Hilts
Its was Luton in a poor championship. Its not like Man City when we at the bottom of the Championship.
We need to be going into every game looking to get points im sure our rivals will.
Shows how far weve dropped when we are writing points off v Luton Town.
Who cares if it’s a “small club” they’re 4th and we’re 21st in a poor Championship.
I didn’t expect anything but a loss last night so now I’m not going to go into a meltdown because we did lose. In the next few weeks we some big games against relegation rivals and lower table opposition. We need to back the team as one and not turn the atmosphere toxic, as it was against Millwall.
Tan and the board are here to stay this season. Avoiding relegation is a much much bigger priority.
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Originally Posted by
Tuerto
Why then did you march against the war in iraq? The troops weren't pulled out a week later because bush and blair had received the memo. The point of protest is to show that as a group, we aren't happy, it's not a revolution.
I think the comparison is utterly idiotic
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Originally Posted by
blue lewj
Seems there is little appetite for it sadly.
Football has changed a lot along with the fans.
Well try. Your desperate for a protest someone has to organise it.
Constant threads about Tan and the board definitely have no effect.
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Re: Visible protest inside the ground needed
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Originally Posted by
blue lewj
Seems there is little appetite for it sadly.
Football has changed a lot along with the fans.
Adding to the toxicity at this point in time and with a new manager in place and when confidence on the pitch must be at a low is not a good idea, old fruit.
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Re: Visible protest inside the ground needed
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Originally Posted by
Hilts
Well try. Your desperate for a protest someone has to organise it.
Constant threads about Tan and the board definitely have no effect.
There are protests already afoot.
Think we need it more visual that's all.
This certainly isn't the place for it. People seem happy with the situation or at the very least tolerant in the main here.
All be up in arms when we finally go down and the prospect of these owners doing exactly what they're doing now but in League 1 is the prospect.
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Originally Posted by
Canton Kev
Who cares if it’s a “small club” they’re 4th and we’re 21st in a poor Championship.
I didn’t expect anything but a loss last night so now I’m not going to go into a meltdown because we did lose. In the next few weeks we some big games against relegation rivals and lower table opposition. We need to back the team as one and not turn the atmosphere toxic, as it was against Millwall.
Tan and the board are here to stay this season. Avoiding relegation is a much much bigger priority.
I dont think there is a meltdown because we lost to Luton.
Its a build up of a disaster of a season where we are on our 3rd manager are playing poor football cant score goals and our desperately weak squad which did have our best left winger at left back last night had a centre half who has been looking out of his depth and thats putting it nicely at left back.
We needed players desperately and seen the likes of Hugill go to a rival and Drameh to last nights opponents.
The window shuts and all we have to show for it is an unproven striker.
Weve already had important games v Blackpool and Wigan and fecked up both.
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The board only have to look at the number of empty seats now and compare that to the crowds during our PL season to see the discontent amongst the fan base. If that's not enough of a visible protest inside the stadium I don't know what is.
Anyone with an ounce of football knowledge, combined with business acumen, should know what needs to be done to put the club on an upwards trajectory. Unfortunately the current incumbents either can't see that, or can see it and choose not to do anything to rectify it.
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Re: Visible protest inside the ground needed
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Originally Posted by
blue lewj
There are protests already afoot.
Think we need it more visual that's all.
This certainly isn't the place for it. People seem happy with the situation or at the very least tolerant in the main here.
All be up in arms when we finally go down and the prospect of these owners doing exactly what they're doing now but in League 1 is the prospect.
Are you a trust member? If so have you messaged them about protests?
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Re: Visible protest inside the ground needed
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Originally Posted by
blue lewj
Something along the lines of Man United's green and yellow scarves needed.
Something that gets the media talking and something visible for Tan.
A few hundred outside is a start but is it effective if the owner is thousands of miles away with his feet up watching on TV?
The club is being run horrendously and they need to know what the fans think.
It's a bit late for that isn't it?
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Re: Visible protest inside the ground needed
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Originally Posted by
NYCBlue
It's a bit late for that isn't it?
Probably if I'm being honest.
He's already shown that he can virtually take the pi$$ with little opposition.
A very sad state of affairs.
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Football fans are basically idiots
They don't care about what's going on behind the scenes as long as the team is winning
When Sam Hammam was pissing money up against the wall on the never never anyone asking questions got the nasty phonecall treatment
United fans have gone quiet again as they look like having a good team again
It's all bollocks really