Right or wrong, Woke or not?
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Right or wrong, Woke or not?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/68730227
Right.
The trial - right, what he did - wrong, his reaction - even worse!
A person of that stature can't act like that with the world watching and it go unpunished. That would set a dangerous precedent.
He seemed understandably joyous that Spain had won
In a moment of excitement he gave a woman a kiss 😘
I think it's a load of bollocks
He was overjoyedQuote:
Originally Posted by Cleve van Leef
He gave a woman a kiss
No tongues
She didn't initially seem bothered
Guy's a total cock. Grabbing his crotch and what not. Now he plays the victim.
I wonder how much his position in life has benefited from the positive discrimination of being a man.
Probably didn't moan so much about it then.
...and it's not for some middle aged white south walian bloke to say whether or not Hermoso is wrong or the courts are wrong either.
How do you know he’s white or middle aged?Quote:
Originally Posted by Divine Wright
Whatever the rights or wrongs the World has gone mad..
World gone mad. He shouldn’t have done it but that’s about it.
It is woke, pure and simple. For all this noise in the news he must be privately pissed off that he didn’t at least flick a nipple.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cleve van Leef
As much as I appreciate the humour, you're no better than him with this comment. Would you enjoy it if you had been in her place? Smooch and a nipple flick?Quote:
Originally Posted by Keyser Soze
Woke nonsense
Mate. If you're going to start a thread, at least spell Rubin correctly.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cleve van Leef
California Rubiales.
Rubiales California.
Now it’s 1984, knock knock on your front door.
It’s the suede denim secret police.
They have come for your uncool Niece.
For the most part I think that I have given up caring about the salami slicing of what was the society that I knew and am just ghoulishly waiting for the schadenfreude when reality hits home.
Really horrible view I know, but there really is no real avenue for grown up discourse anymore and the reason we will get more and more populist leaders elected.
It’s just one big “whatever” for me from now on.
what's the world coming to when someone cant kiss someone on the lips and not face consequences :shrug:
he was of course wrong doing what he did, no-one can defend his actions ( though Sludge is, but even the charicture version of sludge cant think its right, surely ? ?? )
he actions after were just plain stupid, send him down for that
It's a huge sporting momentQuote:
Originally Posted by blue matt
He was ecstatic that her team had one
There's a sexual kiss and there's a happy , joyful kiss
She walks off smiling
Now of course it's her right to say she felt uncomfortable but she didn't appear at all distressed as she walked away
I think as soon as she stated she felt uncomfortable then the apology process should have happened
And that should have been the end of the matter
He hasn't covered himself in glory but nor have the hang em , flog em mob
I'd stop digging on this one Sludge. Matt's on the money mate.Quote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
Given his senior position and the "power" that brought him to do this was wholly inappropriate.
Some posters need to recognise that he didn't simply kiss the lady concerned, but grabbed her head and forced a kiss on her.
Clearly an assault in my book.
However, if he had recognised is inappropriate conduct and apologised properly in the aftermath I would have expected it to end there.
The power trip he went on with his press conference wheeling out members of staff and players to "support" him was nothing other than despicable. Consequently he deserves to be pursued for his misconduct with the full force of the law.
He's just been arrested for fraud too. Which he denies.....of course....probably because he is a man (in his opinion).Quote:
Originally Posted by JumpersforGoalposts
I hate all the woke stuff more than most, but he's a perve sludge and deserves the book thrown at him, I bet there will be loads of stories about him in the future, he's a blatant thick entitled perve to do it in front of millions.Quote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
It's pc gone madQuote:
Originally Posted by Citizen's Nephew
My mate took a womens studies unit at collegeQuote:
Originally Posted by JumpersforGoalposts
He was a right dirty rotter on the side
My PC's gone mad.Quote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
Edit: I lied. I've got a dirty Mac.
Give it a hug 🤗Quote:
Originally Posted by Citizen's Nephew
See edit! :hehe:Quote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
This is about entitlement rather than the action. A total stranger kissed my forehead when Tanner scored against the Jacks, pure collective emotion in the spur of the moment.
He is standing handing out medals in a power situation, that was a power kiss, he was demonstrating his power/authority over her, I doubt it was intentional, maybe he sees himself as a father figure but I doubt it with the response.
If he did a hands-up "Jesus Christ I am sorry, it was never my intention", it would have blown over. The response tells me his entitlement told him and his group that he was right. He was entitled to do what he liked, where he liked, with whoever he liked.
Whether that is a "crime" is up to the judge, but he demonstrated he shouldn't be a leader of any organization unless its the Garrick club
The Garrick fees will be dropping fast now for men now that women have demanded access. Rumour has it that Buck’s Club on Mayfair is now jacking its prices up in expectation that Garrick members will migrate there.Quote:
Originally Posted by llan bluebird
Women cannot force their access on mens private clubs. They will turn up and they will find an artist, musician or mad thespian who stay there out of sentimentality, but the Royals, Sirs, Hedgies, CEOs and high ranking military members will just leave and join Bucks instead.
Funny thing is all the women will be charged the high fees to cover the fees paid by the power brokers that have long since gone 😂 You can tell these women never played chess - they aren’t even thinking two steps ahead (the second round reaction to their action). They can chase them out of Buck’s too, but in the end they will just go to a private residence like Waddeson Manor or a big pad of some landed gentry dude or a yacht offshore. You cannot force a law to make women attend a privately owned residence. They may as well give up.
If you can get into bother for what he did, live on tv, there must be hundreds of pop stars/actors feeling a bit twitchy over past endeavours. Liam Gallagher for one, he pinched my wife’s ass post gig party backstage around 1998, she’s not happy, feels violated, hasn’t been able to go out in public since or slept through the night. Not to be little those that clearly took the piss back then but ffs!Quote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
Bet mick and Keith are so happy they existed when they did hey…..
Aw c’mon, don’t look back in anger.Quote:
Originally Posted by goats
Some might say he’s having it, I’ll let it slide away for now……Quote:
Originally Posted by splott parker
**** everyone on this thread. You are all mad apart from the Wash DC bloke.
It's a load of woke nonsense. Common sense left the building a long time ago. Mad mad world we live in nowadays.
Yeah! Let's go back to the days when women were chained to the sink and black people were slaves. Such a "woke" world today. #RubialesforheadoftheworldQuote:
Originally Posted by Bald Barry Bastad
It's all part of his masterplanQuote:
Originally Posted by goats
You know your opposition has lost the argument when they swing to the opposite extreme to justify the current extreme position, as if two extremes are the only option. For all the airtime and court time this is getting it is way, way, over the top, and an extreme reaction.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eddie Johnson
If you didn’t know what had happened, but was watching the news for the first time, anyone would think she had fallen asleep, he had undone her bra, flicked her nipples, caressed her lips with his balls, slipped her hot wet panties to the side of her crotch, licked her wool, and then she had suddenly woke up and caught him in the act.
Rather, it was a quick, fleeting, and poorly midjudged peck of celebratory joy in the middle of the stadium in front of thousands of people. What he did was silly in modern times, but the reaction is absolutely over the top.
Because he didn't instantly apologise for that poorly misjudged moment. We all make mistakes and misjudgement, some of us accept, apologise and learn and some of us blame the innocent party and claim it's all woke.Quote:
Originally Posted by Keyser Soze