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"Three middle-aged white guys get the sack.."
..so says Ian Wright.
I for one really enjoyed tuning in to Soccer Saturday on a wet afternoon when City were away. The banter between them and Stelling was excellent..
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A Quiet Monkfish
..so says Ian Wright.
I for one really enjoyed tuning in to Soccer Saturday on a wet afternoon when City were away. The banter between them and Stelling was excellent..
Your headline is very misleading !!!
It makes out Ian Wright is backing the “3 middle aged white guys”, whereas the twitter post, shows he’s backing the sackings .
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It probably did need a shake up. The stuff between Stelling and Nicholas was a bit weird and always felt like they were in more on the joke than the audience.
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All 3 weren't the best but there was also nothing wrong with them.
I hope this is to bring someone better in and not for tokenism's sake
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WJ99mobile
All 3 weren't the best but there was also nothing wrong with them.
I hope this is to bring someone better in and not for tokenism's sake
We'll see.
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WJ99mobile
All 3 weren't the best but there was also nothing wrong with them.
I hope this is to bring someone better in and not for tokenism's sake
Replacements likely to be
A: Black
B: Female
At least sky will have to ditch that annoying xmas ad where they're dressed as elves
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Thompson's best days as a footballer were more than forty years ago and Nicholas' not far short of that number ago and you're seeing the same in cricket where Gower and Botham have been absent from the recent test match coverage, at a guess, two thirds of those watching would never have seen them play..
I don't care what colour their replacements skins are or what sex they are, just whether they are good or not - that's why I would hope Clinton Morrison for one isn't one of them.
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Alex Scott is always good
Sue smith is OK
Matt Murray and micah Richards are the 2 best now.
I see Ian Wright mentioned Richards, Scott, sol campbell and Clinton morrison. He went onto praise the first 2, I assume he didn't do the others as both come across terribly.
Agree with tobw that the majority of people watching probably have never seen Thompson and Nicholas so lose their appeal.
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bobh
Replacements likely to be
A: Black
B: Female
At least sky will have to ditch that annoying xmas ad where they're dressed as elves
If they're the best for the job who cares? Alex Scott is decent but she's on everything.
Problem is half the skill with the job isn't actually the punditry it's the rapport. That takes years to build and no guarantee it will ever be there. Look at Kammy, he's an idiot but it's what you tune in for.
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Its SKY , they are all shite
Mind you look at shearer
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I don’t care who they get in as I ditched Sky a while ago.
However, the only criteria for any sporting pundit ,on any channel ,is that they should be relevant to the majority of viewers and that they add to the viewing experience in terms of being able to explain or highlight aspects of the game that may go unnoticed by the majority of viewers.
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bobh
Replacements likely to be
A: Black
B: Female
At least sky will have to ditch that annoying xmas ad where they're dressed as elves
LGBT ?
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I think Clinton Morrison is very good once you can understand the way he talks. He’s extremely well prepared wether I listen to him on radio or watch him on tv. He knows the championship well too.
Micah Richards is terrible Imo, he’s just got that Rusty Lee laugh which I think will wear thin after a while.
Sol Campbell is awful. I don’t know why he’s even in the conversation.
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I like that ex England hockey player, mixed race woman
Sam Quey ?
I don't know why but whenever she's on telly I watch
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I'm glad Le Tissier has been bounced out, the conspiracy theory pushing c**t.
And the only reason Wright opened his mouth on the subject was withing seconds of Sky making the announcement Twitter was full of muppets screaming "watch them hire some black people to fill a quota!".
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celticknight
I'm glad Le Tissier has been bounced out, the conspiracy theory pushing c**t.
And the only reason Wright opened his mouth on the subject was withing seconds of Sky making the announcement Twitter was full of muppets screaming "watch them hire some black people to fill a quota!".
Social media has given a platform to the millions of casual racists we have in this country
I don't like sol Campbell because he's crap
On twitter people don't like him because he's black
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Matt Murray and Micah Richards come across well. But as for Alex Scott, cripes, she turns up everywhere. And she is hopeless, she juts witters on talking rubbish usually. And seems full of her self importance.
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Caitlin Jenner got to be worth a shout!
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Majorblue
I don’t care who they get in as I ditched Sky a while ago.
However, the only criteria for any sporting pundit ,on any channel ,is that they should be relevant to the majority of viewers and that they add to the viewing experience in terms of being able to explain or highlight aspects of the game that may go unnoticed by the majority of viewers.
Absolutely agree the more folk that ditch the better, I did a while ago.
Somehow I don't think relevance to the viewer will be a strategy in the future as political correctness overwhelms society.
I guess Matt Le Tissier was always doomed over his questioning of his bosses at Sky around wearing the black lives matter badge and his opposition to their defined the police policy .
The 3 guys going are though getting on and a bit cringy at times ,as is Wrighty , I just hope Sky make sensible choices and not political ones .
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light up the darkness
LGBT ?
I think its now L.G.B.T.Q.I.A.+
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SLUDGE FACTORY
I like that ex England hockey player, mixed race woman
Sam Quey ?
I don't know why but whenever she's on telly I watch
Sam Quek, and I agree
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life on mars
Absolutely agree the more folk that ditch the better, I did a while ago.
Somehow I don't think relevance to the viewer will be a strategy in the future as political correctness overwhelms society.
I guess Matt Le Tissier was always doomed over his questioning of his bosses at Sky around wearing the black lives matter badge and his opposition to their defined the police policy .
The 3 guys going are though getting on and a bit cringy at times ,as is Wrighty , I just hope Sky make sensible choices and not political ones .
The bosses at sky have a defund the police policy?
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lardy
The bosses at sky have a defund the police policy?
Rupert Murdoch is antifa
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I hope they employ Garth Crooks and Sol Campbell.
Sky Sports is getting crap. NFL channels. 40 year old has beens on boxing PPV.
Employing them 2 I think will be what it takes me to knock Sky Sports on the head.
Oh and throw in Hartson as well.
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the other bob wilson
Thompson's best days as a footballer were more than forty years ago and Nicholas' not far short of that number ago and you're seeing the same in cricket where Gower and Botham have been absent from the recent test match coverage, at a guess, two thirds of those watching would never have seen them play..
I don't care what colour their replacements skins are or what sex they are, just whether they are good or not - that's why I would hope Clinton Morrison for one isn't one of them.
Sky are bringing in new blood in an effort for their customers to relate better to their pundits.
Out with the white middle aged throw backs in with the shiny, aesthetic, politically sanctioned new presenters.
Tell me who watches Sky Sports again and probably accounts for a large percentage of their audience demographic?
I'm playing shit stirrer here.
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SLUDGE FACTORY
Its SKY , they are all shite
Mind you look at shearer
Have I got a second series?
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It will probably be some token black guy or woman.
I'm not being harsh here but if they aren't qualified to pass comment then they should not be there.
Some retired midfielder who played for the Donny Belles does not know what it is like to play Premier League football sorry. If some lad from Slough Town skidded up on the Champions League panel and started telling us what the world class players should have done you'd think they had lost their minds.
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blue lewj
It will probably be some token black guy or woman.
I'm not being harsh here but if they aren't qualified to pass comment then they should not be there.
Some retired midfielder who played for the Donny Belles does not know what it is like to play Premier League football sorry. If some lad from Slough Town skidded up on the Champions League panel and started telling us what the world class players should have done you'd think they had lost their minds.
Out of the people let go only Le Tissier played premier league football.
Charlie Nicholas is 58 and Phil Thompson is 66 neither are middle aged.
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"We especially welcome applications from disabled, BAME females who represent LGBT"
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qccfc
Out of the people let go only Le Tissier played premier league football.
Charlie Nicholas is 58 and Phil Thompson is 66 neither are middle aged.
And?
Are you honestly saying they are not in a better position to comment than Sue Smith or Alex Scott?
What level do you think the women's Premier League would be in the men's football pyramid in this country?
A pundit for me should be an expert in their field. Sorry but the women that Sky employ had about as much chance as me of playing Premier League football.
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the other bob wilson
I don't care what colour their replacements skins are or what sex they are, just whether they are good or not - that's why I would hope Clinton Morrison for one isn't one of them.
Phil Thompson has gently and gradually been pushed aside in recent seasons. He's been on the show less and less frequently in recent times. Charlie Nicholas does my head in, so I'm not sorry to see the back of him. Bit surprised Matt Le Tissier has gone, though. He was always interesting and entertaining.
As for the new crop, I quite like Clinton Morrison. Matt Murray is great, while Sue Smith is brilliant - one of the very best in that role in my opinion.
Did you see Gareth Ainsworth on the show recently? He was a natural - really good value.
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the other bob wilson
Thompson's best days as a footballer were more than forty years ago and Nicholas' not far short of that number ago and you're seeing the same in cricket where Gower and Botham have been absent from the recent test match coverage, at a guess, two thirds of those watching would never have seen them play..
I don't care what colour their replacements skins are or what sex they are, just whether they are good or not - that's why I would hope Clinton Morrison for one isn't one of them.
tobw, botham retired at the end of last season not sure about gower and charles seems to be missing as well
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blue lewj
A pundit for me should be an expert in their field. Sorry but the women that Sky employ had about as much chance as me of playing Premier League football.
Probably about as much chance as Jose Mourinho and Arsene Wenger did too.....
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https://youtu.be/RGjydmF1MAw
I'm sorry but Sue Smith, given the evidence above, should not be in any position to tell me the things Aguero did wrong in missing his chance or how much pressure Messi is under while taking a penalty. It's not right.
We have hit the area of blatant positive discrimination. If they are the best person for the job then get them in.
Sorry but a woman who played the equivalent of the Evostik Premier is not the best person or in any way qualified in my opinion.
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The Lone Gunman
Probably about as much chance as Jose Mourinho and Arsene Wenger did too.....
They got jobs as pundits on shows with no experience did they?
No, they worked their way up from the bottom and had top jobs before people had them on programmes like Soccer Saturday or the like.
Though you knew that didn't you.
If a woman gets a managerial job in the Premier League then I'm all ears. Until that time they've just played a mediocre standard of football and have literally no position in the men's game.
It cuts both ways too. I wouldn't expect Jamie Carragher being able to tell me how tough it was playing away at West Ham Ladies for the Donny Belles either. How would be know?
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How about people just waiting to see who they employ? There's an awful lot of conclusions being jumped to here.
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the other bob wilson
How about people just waiting to see who they employ? There's an awful lot of conclusions being jumped to here.
I'm talking more about the women already in place on Sky Sports.
If they were so knowledgeable or tactically astute then surely you would see a few of them popping up in coaching roles or managerial jobs in the men's game. You don't for a very good reason.
In my opinion women and men's football are not even in the same stratosphere. The difference in physicality and skill of the games that they played and comment on they might as well be different sports, they are that different.
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blue lewj
I'm sorry but Sue Smith..... Sorry but a woman......
Let's be honest, you're not sorry at all.
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mazadona10
It probably did need a shake up. The stuff between Stelling and Nicholas was a bit weird and always felt like they were in more on the joke than the audience.
A really tired show, which may be saved by some new pundits although I have never understood why people would spend time watching people watching football :shrug: Surely there MUST be better things to do?!
Nicholas was useless and far worse than that, completely irrelevant - I remember trying to explain to my boys who he was (won the League Cup with Arsenal and was quite good in Scotland......? :facepalm:)