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So far , Uk pays Ukraine £400 million in aid + £385 million in World Bank guarantees + 120 armoured vehicles and missiles + £100 million 4 military aid + 20 ambulances. Ukraine have asked for more. Meanwhile pple in uk cant heat their homes.
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The world is on the proverbial “handcart to hell”. Instead of looking forward to a brighter future for my grandchildren I genuinely fear for them. Instead of investing in renewable energy sources billions upon billions worth of money are being wasted on senseless wars (and have been in the last 100 years alone) and the destruction of infrastructures will cost huge amounts to repair on top of that, let alone using up more natural resources and energy in the process.Quote:
Originally Posted by TWGL1
If the climate reaches a tipping point and there is run-away global warming then it's good night Vienna for a huge chunk of the world's population with some parts of the planet uninhabitable or are we prepared to accept mass migration on a scale the likes of which has never been seen before?
sleepy joe just announced another 800 million us dollars worth of weapons ammunitions package to Ukraine
https://edition.cnn.com/2022/04/13/p...den/index.html
FFS
What an idiot! He should have threatened to withhold it unless Zelenskyy agreed to dig up dirt on Trump.Quote:
Originally Posted by MOZZER2
That sounds a lot of money but pales into insignificance compared to what the USA has spent in wars from WW1 on. I don't know how anyone can authoritatively give exact figures for how much wars costs but the following are some data I found by doing a quick Google search.Quote:
Originally Posted by MOZZER2
Note: these figures are in US$ at today's valuations (i.e. figures recalculated to account for inflation) and these sums are only those spent by the USA alone and also do not include the cost of repairing infrastructure following these wars. Hence the total true cost is unknown but must be unimaginably higher when you take into account what the opposing countries must have spent in fighting the same wars. All this of course does not take into account the amount of human misery that these wars have inflicted and, as is all too clear from recent events, still does.
WW1: 381 billion
WW2: 4.1 trillion
Korean war: 389 billion
Vietnam war: 1 trillion
Iraq: 1 trillion
Afghanistan: 1.5 trillion
The total is over $8 trillion - an obscene amount of money.
Not sure of the total USA to Ukraine arms cost to date, but we are in the middle of the latest USA to Israel arms package (an Obama legacy that continued previous levels of military support) of £2.7 billion per year.
We may see some future payback in terms of trade they are huge in supplying grain and potatoes, one of the world's largest producers of sugar beets and sunflower oil.
Oh and black sea fuel is a potential which Ukraine has a share of ?
I'm sure Boris has had the conversation.
If we actually do get global warming then we won't need to heat our homes and factories, or wear lots of clothing. Win win .Quote:
Originally Posted by Gofer Blue
That's ok if you don't mind the fact that millions of people will lose their homes/lands due to permanent flooding as the sea levels rise. Personally speaking I don't want to see the world get to that scenario. Having said that, the ways things are going the human race may be extinct before then, if Putin presses the red nuclear button in the meantime!Quote:
Originally Posted by A Quiet Monkfish
I wonder what the missile that sank the Russian warship cost? A lot less than the warship I suspect. Not that the missile sank the ship of course according to the Kremlin. The retaliatory attack on the missile facility in Kyiv must have just been coincidental then.
I'm not sure Putin has any incentive to press the nuclear button. The consequence of the war is likely that Russia will occupy and control a greater proportion of Ukraine than it did beforehand.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gofer Blue
UK pledges additional $1.6 billion in military support to Ukraine
FFS
The Jewish lobby run America, effectively Isreal are the most powerful nation on earth.Quote:
Originally Posted by jon1959
The Ukrainian government asks for more and more military hardware, but I don’t hear them asking for medical aid , food , etc unless I’m missing somethingQuote:
Originally Posted by Lither_1927
Probably missing the widespread reports of the humanitarian aid that's being provided to Ukraine by the public and charities. If the Red Cross could provide military aid then the Ukrainian government might not need to ask for more and more of it.Quote:
Originally Posted by TWGL1
What are you suggesting here?Quote:
Originally Posted by TWGL1
Yes ok then :hehe:Quote:
Originally Posted by Tito Fuente
You're right, it's because there isn't a war going on at all, covid doesn't exist and your mum did love you.Quote:
Originally Posted by TWGL1
[QUOTE=Tito Fuente;5299018]You're right, it's because there isn't a war going on at all, covid doesn't exist and your mum did love you.[/
What’s my mum got to do with this post ???
[QUOTE=TWGL1;5299061]What's your favourite tangent? Mine's Smooth.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tito Fuente
[QUOTE=TWGL1;5299061]:hehe:Quote:
Originally Posted by Tito Fuente
I can feel a great trade deal on its way
It could just be trapped wind. Better to be safe than sorry though, so you'd probably be best served by staying near a lavatory. Good luck :thumbup:Quote:
Originally Posted by life on mars
Yeah, see they are pushing for EU membership. Let's hope that Macron's stalling doesn't stop them because what the Ukraine brings to the table that could be some single market!Quote:
Originally Posted by life on mars
Macron won't offer full membership and has hinted as much yesterday , got a feeling the old common market is being dusted downQuote:
Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays
What's the old common market just in case anybody awake doesn't recognise it?Quote:
Originally Posted by life on mars
Tell them , it was a nice deal the UK originally joined in good faith , where is was mainly an economic group of nations to remove trade barriers and allowed other matters was left to the discretion of each nation.Quote:
Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays
Halcyon days , perhaps this is the out for the UK and EU over NI Protocol and allow Ukraine and others an opportunity to bolt on to to just the free trade element , its not a bad idea to be honest .
It's possible it is if I had the faintest scooby on what you are talking about!Quote:
Originally Posted by life on mars