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Ban dogs on sports pitches?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-wal...pen-spaces-ban
It’s what Cardiff council are proposing. Unsurprisingly there is opposition from dog lovers.
I have no problem with dogs, I’ve owned them in the past, and the majority of owners are responsible of course, but most weekends I have to pick shit up off the pitch before our U10s play. It’s disgusting.
Also, even when people pick it up, there is often shitty residue left on the grass. There are absolutely loads of parks and green spaces in Cardiff for people to walk their dogs, surely it’s not unreasonable to keep them off the pitches.
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I know someone who had to have their leg amputated because dog shit and they shouldn’t be allowed on any sport pitch
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i have 4 dogs, but NEVER EVER walk them on sports pitches, we have enough green space to not have to
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I think the Council are overeacting. Ive signed the petition against it, but i dont actually walk my dogs on pitches. If i lived near say Pontcanna tho i would walk there. A pity the Council dont do something about the assholes who cycle down Queen Street even tho they are banned from there!
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this is a money making scheme by the council, they already got the laws to fine people for not picking up dog poo but dont have the staf to implement it so a blanket ban will make it easier to catch people just walking on a field. Why not put fences around sports pitches to stop dogs, foxes, cats and other mammals from getting on them? When I was playing on parks pitches it was smashed glass that was a problem.
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Rhiwbina Blues
this is a money making scheme by the council, they already got the laws to fine people for not picking up dog poo but dont have the staf to implement it so a blanket ban will make it easier to catch people just walking on a field. Why not put fences around sports pitches to stop dogs, foxes, cats and other mammals from getting on them? When I was playing on parks pitches it was smashed glass that was a problem.
It sticks like...
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Seems a bit unfair to ban dogs or any other animal for that matter from such a big recreational area for the sake of some sunday league teams that use the space once or twice a week.
Maybe you could ask dog owners to take their dogs to a designated shitting area before walking on the football pitches to avoid “residues”.
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I have a dog, but I'd never walk it on a playing field.
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Just pick up the smelly mutt’s shit.
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I always pick up dog shit when I'm out walking. Strange hobby, but one that keeps me aroused.
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Divine Wright
Seems a bit unfair to ban dogs or any other animal for that matter from such a big recreational area for the sake of some sunday league teams that use the space once or twice a week.
Maybe you could ask dog owners to take their dogs to a designated shitting area before walking on the football pitches to avoid “residues”.
Why can’t the dogs shit in their own garden?
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Eric the Half a Bee
I always pick up dog shit when I'm out walking. Strange hobby, but one that keeps me aroused.
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These faceless council bosses are stealing a living!
Remember the recent motion to enforce fines on people with less than two poo bags on their person?
The council is failing us all and this is the latest in a series of initiatives which will is doomed to fail.
There is already a lack of bins for people to dispose of their dog shit and the ones that do exist are not emptied regularly resulting in people leaving their dog shit bags and other rubbish next to the bins.
The feckers are proposing less bin collections, citing that it encourages more recycling, yeah right, even though our bins are chokka every week and they've already replaced the perfectly good black ones with smaller ones.
There is a shortage of food bags, apparently their suppliers haven't supplied, resulting to people having to resort to putting food in black bin bags.
They have already closed a very busy tip in Wedal road with no new site planned... let the fly tipping restart!
Building work continues to rise whilst basic infrastructure eg roads, drainage cannot cope.
No bus station for years.
Cycle paths a joke.
Community charges at premium rates and continue to rise.
New County Hall planned replacing the "old" 30 year old one with sprawling car park... don't even start me on parking in Cardiff!
Have I missed anything? :angry:
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Dogs = mobile shit machines ☹️
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Originally Posted by
MacAdder
These faceless council bosses are stealing a living!
Remember the recent motion to enforce fines on people with less than two poo bags on their person?
The council is failing us all and this is the latest in a series of initiatives which will is doomed to fail.
There is already a lack of bins for people to dispose of their dog shit and the ones that do exist are not emptied regularly resulting in people leaving their dog shit bags and other rubbish next to the bins.
The feckers are proposing less bin collections, citing that it encourages more recycling, yeah right, even though our bins are chokka every week and they've already replaced the perfectly good black ones with smaller ones.
There is a shortage of food bags, apparently their suppliers haven't supplied, resulting to people having to resort to putting food in black bin bags.
They have already closed a very busy tip in Wedal road with no new site planned... let the fly tipping restart!
Building work continues to rise whilst basic infrastructure eg roads, drainage cannot cope.
No bus station for years.
Cycle paths a joke.
Community charges at premium rates and continue to rise.
New County Hall planned replacing the "old" 30 year old one with sprawling car park... don't even start me on parking in Cardiff!
Have I missed anything? :angry:
I'd vote for you :thumbup:
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The Bob Banker Spanker
Just pick up the smelly mutt’s shit.
It's just a matter of going through the motions....
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I think many people against the ban are confusing parks with sports pitches.
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Taunton Blue Genie
It's just a matter of going through the motions....
No. That's swimming in the sea at Swanbridge.
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PontBlue
I think many people against the ban are confusing parks with sports pitches.
Exactly.
It’s parkland.... common land, NOT a privately owned sports facility.
....seems to be the way nowadays though. If someone doesn’t like something, they just shout about it and put a fence up. No tolerance, no long-term ideas. Quick fix..
It seems a bit arrogant though to think that humans who play football should have priority. What are they doing that makes them so entitled? Can’t be paying taxes because we all do that, dog owners included.
Why can’t football teams go and play in Gôl or one of those private places? It’s not that expensive.
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Divine Wright
Exactly.
It’s parkland.... common land, NOT a privately owned sports facility.
....seems to be the way nowadays though. If someone doesn’t like something, they just shout about it and put a fence up. No tolerance, no long-term ideas. Quick fix..
It seems a bit arrogant though to think that humans who play football should have priority. What are they doing that makes them so entitled? Can’t be paying taxes because we all do that, dog owners included.
Why can’t football teams go and play in Gôl or one of those private places? It’s not that expensive.
Is that your solution? Go and play in Gol?? Hundreds of football and rugby teams from U7 to seniors go and play at a 5-a-side pitch?
I don’t think it’s arrogant to expect dog walkers not to let their dogs shit on a sports pitch. In Roath Park, Heath Park, Trelai, Heath etc etc there is plenty of space for people to excercise dogs without the need to let them on the pitches. You wouldn’t let a dog run onto a pitch when a game is in progress so why is it such a problem when there’s not?
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Are people really upset that they cant walk their dogs on football and rugby pitches?
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People should pick up their dog's crap when in a public park, it makes no difference if it's on a sports pitch or not. A football game I was watching a few weeks ago had to be held up for a minute or two while some was picked up off the pitch - if things like that are happening then, speaking as a dog owner, I've got no problem with the proposed ban.
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Barry Shitpeas
Is that your solution? Go and play in Gol?? Hundreds of football and rugby teams from U7 to seniors go and play at a 5-a-side pitch?
I don’t think it’s arrogant to expect dog walkers not to let their dogs shit on a sports pitch. In Roath Park, Heath Park, Trelai, Heath etc etc there is plenty of space for people to excercise dogs without the need to let them on the pitches. You wouldn’t let a dog run onto a pitch when a game is in progress so why is it such a problem when there’s not?
What makes you entitled to cordon off large areas of parkland because you want to play football once or twice a week. It’s totally arrogant.
And your solution ? Displacement ? Go and play 5 a side in gol or one of the other private sports venues. Yes that is my solution. Sling your hook.
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We are talking Llandaff fields here aren’t we ? If so, it’s a laughable proposal.
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ken smith
Are people really upset that they cant walk their dogs on football and rugby pitches?
It’s parkland bra. Wiki it
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Divine Wright
What makes you entitled to cordon off large areas of parkland because you want to play football once or twice a week. It’s totally arrogant.
And your solution ? Displacement ? Go and play 5 a side in gol or one of the other private sports venues. Yes that is my solution. Sling your hook.
Sports teams pay pitch fees for the use of the facilities. Dog walkers don't
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qccfc
Sports teams pay pitch fees for the use of the facilities. Dog walkers don't
Dog owners pay council tax and as far as I know Llandaff fields are owned by the council.
The fees you pay allow you to book the pitch for an hour and half on a saturday/sunday morning. It doesn’t give you the right to govern it’s use outside that time slot as far as I’m aware.
If I had a dog I’d use it regardless of what football people or the council say. I’d clean up after me and if you asked nicely I’d take some disinfectant spray and a rag to clean up properly and leave your sports facilities inmaculate.
Alternatively, you could label me and my friend as a nuisance and ban me.
..if that seems more reasonable.
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qccfc
Sports teams pay pitch fees for the use of the facilities. Dog walkers don't
You are right about this and the council get quite a chunk of cash for their upkeep and maintenance.
The amount they receive in revenue should be more than enough to include a person surveying the playing area for any possible animal faeces and dealing with it.
I have to say say animal as fox shite is common too (that said, depending on the area you live, the pitches are lucky to get rolled). Perhaps their next quick fix plan is to have a fox cull.
Whilst the solution of playing everywhere at Gol isn't a plausible one, the banning of dogs running on footie pitches is laughable.
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Divine Wright
Dog owners pay council tax and as far as I know Llandaff fields are owned by the council.
The fees you pay allow you to book the pitch for an hour and half on a saturday/sunday morning. It doesn’t give you the right to govern it’s use outside that time slot as far as I’m aware.
If I had a dog I’d use it regardless of what football people or the council say. I’d clean up after me and if you asked nicely I’d take some disinfectant spray and a rag to clean up properly and leave your sports facilities inmaculate.
Alternatively, you could label me and my friend as a nuisance and ban me.
..if that seems more reasonable.
Unfortunately it is irresponsible dog owners that will cause this to happen. Its already the case in RCT that if you take a dog into a sports field and are caught its an instant fine. If people want to continue to take their dogs there its their call really.
The situation is ridiculous i always used to walk my family's dogs on the sports pitches because they were large open spaces and the dogs could run freely without being a harm to people/children. However our pitches are a complete mess at the moment, and for health reasons something must be done.
These pitches do not only contain adult matches on the weekend, the contain children coaching sessions through-out the week. If you booked a private room in a council building i do not think it would be unreasonable to expect it not to be covered in shit.
If you are not prepared to clean up after a dog, you should not be allowed to own one.
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MacAdder
You are right about this and the council get quite a chunk of cash for their upkeep and maintenance.
The amount they receive in revenue should be more than enough to include a person surveying the playing area for any possible animal faeces and dealing with it.
I have to say say animal as fox shite is common too (that said, depending on the area you live, the pitches are lucky to get rolled). Perhaps their next quick fix plan is to have a fox cull.
Whilst the solution of playing everywhere at Gol isn't a plausible one, the banning of dogs running on footie pitches is laughable.
Gol isn’t the solution. I was trying to make the point that “go elsewhere” is the type of solution anyone with half a brain can come up with, the only difference being that I was saying it ironically. I wouldn’t have the ordacity to claim ownership of something that is for everyone and everything.
I don’t like kids running about and making noise. I don’t like football fans walking down the street pissed up and breaking things... now that is antisocial and genuinely intimidating. Should we ban football? Or football fans? Or drinking? If we are talking about the damage, the littering and the violence, football related antisocial behaviour is far more serious than cyclists or dog shit.
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qccfc
If you are not prepared to clean up after a dog, you should not be allowed to own one.
Agreed. People should have to get a licence in order to own or breed an animal. Not so much for the benefit of humans and dog shit but for animal welfare and to avoid animal abuse.
The requirements for adopting (buying or not ) should be more in line with what it takes to adopt a baby. There should be more parity in this respect.
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Divine Wright
Gol isn’t the solution. I was trying to make the point that “go elsewhere” is the type of solution anyone with half a brain can come up with, the only difference being that I was saying it ironically. I wouldn’t have the ordacity to claim ownership of something that is for everyone and everything.
I don’t like kids running about and making noise. I don’t like football fans walking down the street pissed up and breaking things... now that is antisocial and genuinely intimidating. Should we ban football? Or football fans? Or drinking? If we are talking about the damage, the littering and the violence, football related antisocial behaviour is far more serious than cyclists or dog shit.
How about the dog walkers on the sports pitches "go elsewhere" as clearly they're the ones not picking up dog muck. It can cause blindness and wounds to get infected. They're not on about banning dogs from parks, just areas where football/rugby etc is played.
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Pedro de la Rosa
How about the dog walkers on the sports pitches "go elsewhere" as clearly they're the ones not picking up dog muck. It can cause blindness and wounds to get infected. They're not on about banning dogs from parks, just areas where football/rugby etc is played.
You need to read back for context.
The areas they are proposing the bans are parkland.....which double as sports fields periodically.
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Originally Posted by
Divine Wright
You need to read back for context.
The areas they are proposing the bans are parkland.....which double as sports fields periodically.
You want to stop all 11 a side football/cricket/rugby pitches and make people play 5 a side. Perhaps certain fields could be used for dog walking, and certain fields used for sport. Is it OK for sports people to be stopped but dog walkers not?
I play football on a public pitch, and the amount of dog muck on it is frankly incredible. "I'd clean it up" etc is all well and good, but clearly people aren't doing it. If you let your dog off the lead and let it run about, I don't see how it is feasible to know exactly where and when it has done its business, so I've got some sympathy but something needs to be done.
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Pedro de la Rosa
You want to stop all 11 a side football/cricket/rugby pitches and make people play 5 a side. Perhaps certain fields could be used for dog walking, and certain fields used for sport. Is it OK for sports people to be stopped but dog walkers not?
I play football on a public pitch, and the amount of dog muck on it is frankly incredible. "I'd clean it up" etc is all well and good, but clearly people aren't doing it. If you let your dog off the lead and let it run about, I don't see how it is feasible to know exactly where and when it has done its business, so I've got some sympathy but something needs to be done.
I'm not the one proposing a ban on football.
Designated pitches might be workable. In Llandaff Fields there are pitches that are more out of the way than others. When I think of this issue and imagine where exactly I'd be walking my dog, I'm thinking of the path that goes from Llandaff fields changing rooms to black weir bridge. I feel like the areas around the path would have to be left free for traffic of all sorts...dogs, walkers, kids etc. Can you imagine dog walkers and pedestrians all having use that narrow stretch of path? I think it could be problematic.
But the answer is not a quick fix type of thing. The answer is to control who can have a dog. To ensure they are properly trained to handle a dog (including picking up it's shit). Heavier penalties for dog owners who don't follow the laws. Encourge people to report those who they see leaving crap...maybe a quick-dial report line. Threaten to take dogs away from owners if they are unable to take care of them properly. Make it unacceptable.
With regards football pitches. There should be an inspection before every match anyway to make sure the pitch is free of glass and other dangerous objects. Maybe the council could provide dog shit/glass/cans hoovers and antibacterial killer foam spray so that the pitch is completely free of foreign objects.
It takes time and it takes thought and organisation but that is what living together in the same space is about......cohabiting.....conviviality. Not just banning stuff when you don't like it. That's pathetic IMO. As pathetic an attitude as leavingdog shit on the floor.
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Divine Wright
I'm not the one proposing a ban on football.
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Divine Wright
Why can’t football teams go and play in Gôl or one of those private places? It’s not that expensive.
Yes, you are the one proposing a ban on football. And trust me, it is expensive.
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Originally Posted by
Divine Wright
What makes you entitled to cordon off large areas of parkland because you want to play football once or twice a week. It’s totally arrogant.
And your solution ? Displacement ? Go and play 5 a side in gol or one of the other private sports venues. Yes that is my solution. Sling your hook.
Hopefully, human beings don't leave traces of excrement on the grass which could be detrimental or unpleasant for dogs.
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Taunton Blue Genie
Hopefully, human beings don't leave traces of excrement on the grass which could be detrimental or unpleasant for dogs.
As if. They love the stuff. Roll around in it, eat it. Then again, that's what a lot of us like about dogs, they are not as fussy and comlex as our human counterparts!
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Originally Posted by
MacAdder
These faceless council bosses are stealing a living!
Remember the recent motion to enforce fines on people with less than two poo bags on their person?
The council is failing us all and this is the latest in a series of initiatives which will is doomed to fail.
There is already a lack of bins for people to dispose of their dog shit and the ones that do exist are not emptied regularly resulting in people leaving their dog shit bags and other rubbish next to the bins.
The feckers are proposing less bin collections, citing that it encourages more recycling, yeah right, even though our bins are chokka every week and they've already replaced the perfectly good black ones with smaller ones.
There is a shortage of food bags, apparently their suppliers haven't supplied, resulting to people having to resort to putting food in black bin bags.
They have already closed a very busy tip in Wedal road with no new site planned... let the fly tipping restart!
Building work continues to rise whilst basic infrastructure eg roads, drainage cannot cope.
No bus station for years.
Cycle paths a joke.
Community charges at premium rates and continue to rise.
New County Hall planned replacing the "old" 30 year old one with sprawling car park... don't even start me on parking in Cardiff!
Have I missed anything? :angry:
Yes. The bus lane on the link road between Newport Rd and Llanedeyrn.
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The perfect solution to this is to walk your dogs around my area where every single **** with a dog seems to leave their shit all over the pavement without having to worry about picking it up.