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Trump and Jerusalem , what's he up to now ?!
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If the aim is to provoke the Palestinians and other Arabs then he's on to a winner.
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Pandering to his base and providing yet another distraction.
I should imagine Roy Moore is loving it.
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Another day another, another controversy
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He's hell-bent on starting WW3.
Needs to be removed before he succeeds.
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Apparently it's been a policy since 1995 but every president has delayed it until now because they know it'll cause even more trouble there then there already is.
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He,s not yet invaded a foreign country and changed elected regimes, did you think the same and mention it on here when Obama, Bush etc. Invaded foreign countries?
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Yes and when brown and Blair did it
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I'll go away and check again, but I don't think that Blair and Brown have ever been POTUS
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The blokes a nutter, no argument from me here, he does have a point in that, whatever has been done before him, and nothing has been done any differently for over 20 years with each president shying away from the issue, it hasn't resulted in peace.
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Nelsonca61
I'll go away and check again, but I don't think that Blair and Brown have ever been POTUS
:hehe:
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Nelsonca61
The blokes a nutter, no argument from me here, he does have a point in that, whatever has been done before him, and nothing has been done any differently for over 20 years with each president shying away from the issue, it hasn't resulted in peace.
And making a decision that favours the stronger of the two parties will help?
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Nelsonca61
He,s not yet invaded a foreign country and changed elected regimes, did you think the same and mention it on here when Obama, Bush etc. Invaded foreign countries?
What country did Obama invade?
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Taunton Blue Genie
And making a decision that favours the stronger of the two parties will help?
I doubt it very much, no one has the answer really do they?, although i have a suspicion you think you may know of one, what the preceding years have indicated to me, is that the status quo has not resulted in peace, I do not think we will ever see peace in this region and that conflict will always prevail, the elite will always ensure this to be the case, there is too much money to be made in times of war and bloodshed.
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Nelsonca61
I doubt it very much, no one has the answer really do they?, although i have a suspicion you think you may know of one, what the preceding years have indicated to me, is that the status quo has not resulted in peace, I do not think we will ever see peace in this region and that conflict will always prevail, the elite will always ensure this to be the case, there is too much money to be made in times of war and bloodshed.
Your suspicion is based on what exactly?
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NYCBlue
What country did Obama invade?
You got me there :thumbup:
Perhaps i should have just said cause mayhem, death and destruction.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...s-9753131.html
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ninianclark
Can someone enlighten me then :-
Tel Aviv is the capital of Israel - yes ?
Jerusalem - capital / unofficial capital of Palestine ?
Jerusalem - waling wall is used by Jews, Muslims and Christians as a religious site ?
Why is Israel happy about moving the US Embassy to Tel Aviv ?
Why are the Palestinians unhappy about that ?
What does Israel / Palestine want to happen to Jerusalem ?
What party is in charge of Palestine - Hezbollah - or the other lot whose name escapes me.
Whatever happened to our Middle Eastern Peace Envoy - Mr Blair , could we send him in to find some WMD on the pretence of invasion ? (dont answer that one)
'From' rather than 'to'
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Taunton Blue Genie
Your suspicion is based on what exactly?
Intuition, but if i'm wrong, I can deal with it no worries :biggrin:
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Nelsonca61
Intuition, but if i'm wrong, I can deal with it no worries :biggrin:
Best judge posters by the words they write on here rather than rely on your intuition, old fruit.
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Taunton Blue Genie
Best judge posters by the words they write on here rather than rely on your intuition, old fruit.
I'll remember that wise old man. :thumbup:
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Trump's created a self-inflicted problem for himself with this decision. How on earth does he push his tongue farther up Netanyahu's sphincter. :sherlock:
Attachment 1988
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Nelsonca61
I'll go away and check again, but I don't think that Blair and Brown have ever been POTUS
No but they did Invade a foreign country.
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Croesy Blue
No but they did Invade a foreign country.
All other countries are foreign to them....
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I'm clueless to what's going on here but what is the problem between Israel and Palestine?
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Nelsonca61
There's no doubt that George W Bush left him with a hell of a mess to deal with.
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Nelsonca61
He,s not yet invaded a foreign country and changed elected regimes, did you think the same and mention it on here when Obama, Bush etc. Invaded foreign countries?
Yes and also when Blair did it
I even marched against the decision in Cardiff and London
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jamieccfc
I'm clueless to what's going on here but what is the problem between Israel and Palestine?
That old age bullshit , religion and land
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SLUDGE FACTORY
Yes and also when Blair did it
I even marched against the decision in Cardiff and London
I wasn't asking yoos :hehe:
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Trump said on TV earlier that 'previous Presidents' talked about it, but he's the only one who will do it'.
That left me wondering - is that because previous Presidents knew it was a bad idea, so held off from doing it?!
But maybe - at the same time had to make out that they would consider it - for diplomatic and practical reasons?
And maybe peace. And maybe stability.
It's possible.
Or maybe Trump knows something we currently don't. He hinted at that too.
Everywhere and everything seem a mess right now eh ..
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Croesy Blue
Apparently it's been a policy since 1995 but every president has delayed it until now because they know it'll cause even more trouble there then there already is.
Where did you get that from?
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NYCBlue
Where did you get that from?
I believe that it was mentioned on the UK news earlier, and Trump echoed that in what he said also.
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NYCBlue
Where did you get that from?
It was in one of the reports I've read. The Jerusalem act was passed in 95:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerusalem_Embassy_Act
Next time why not just google it rather than thinking you know everything about US foreign policy because you live there :hehe:
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Excuse my naivety, but why is there this almost global acceptance that America should have the influence they appear to have in this area?
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Nelsonca61
He,s not yet invaded a foreign country and changed elected regimes, did you think the same and mention it on here when Obama, Bush etc. Invaded foreign countries?
I still don't get your point with this? Do you think Bush and Obama being warmongers means it's ok for Trump to destabilise the Middle East?
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the other bob wilson
Excuse my naivety, but why is there this almost global acceptance that America should have the influence they appear to have in this area?
On the one hand, the US in its supposed role as the world's policeman and peacebroker, is adjudged to be the major hope in bringing the conflicted parties together. However, the US pours billions of dollars into Israel.
https://www.everycrsreport.com/reports/RL33222.html
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ninianclark
Can someone enlighten me then :-
Tel Aviv is the capital of Israel - yes ?
Jerusalem - capital / unofficial capital of Palestine ?
Jerusalem - waling wall is used by Jews, Muslims and Christians as a religious site ?
Why is Israel happy about moving the US Embassy to Tel Aviv ?
Why are the Palestinians unhappy about that ?
What does Israel / Palestine want to happen to Jerusalem ?
What party is in charge of Palestine - Hezbollah - or the other lot whose name escapes me.
Whatever happened to our Middle Eastern Peace Envoy - Mr Blair , could we send him in to find some WMD on the pretence of invasion ? (dont answer that one)
Jerusalem is bang on the border between Israel and Palestine, and as you probably know is considered a holy city for Jews, Christians and Muslims..
People have been fighting over it for two thousand years.
At some point during the peace process, the issue of who owned Jerusalem would have to be addressed. Trump has effectively and unilaterally taken that off the table.
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TH63
Jerusalem is bang on the border between Israel and Palestine, and as you probably know is considered a holy city for Jews, Christians and Muslims..
People have been fighting over it for two thousand years.
At some point during the peace process, the issue of who owned Jerusalem would have to be addressed. Trump has effectively and unilaterally taken that off the table.
And left the Palestinians with even less leverage than they had before.
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Taunton Blue Genie
On the one hand, the US in its supposed role as the world's policeman and peacebroker, is adjudged to be the major hope in bringing the conflicted parties together.
However, the US pours billions of dollars into Israel.
https://www.everycrsreport.com/reports/RL33222.html
Precisely.
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I honestly don't believe that Trump understands / cares one iota about the implications of this
What's more concerning is the people who obviously have his ear obviously do.