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Terrible terrible Birmingham
Up to third as it stands.
Yes it’s early, yes it will change but they aren’t the rubbish some people want to make out because we played well.
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Up to third? where do you get that from?
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Maurice Swan
Up to third? where do you get that from?
From looking at the table i guess!
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Watford pegged them back for a draw.
Brum were awful Saturday and I fully expect them to struggle this season.
Bluebirds still in 5th despite all these games tonight.
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Former Labour leader
Watford pegged them back for a draw.
Brum were awful Saturday and I fully expect them to struggle this season.
Bluebirds still in 5th despite all these games tonight.
Win by 4 goals at West Brom to go top :hehe: there’s the motivation right there
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Des Parrot
Win by 4 goals at West Brom to go top :hehe: there’s the motivation right there
Lol
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Birmingham City should be at least a play off side in this division
Daveys on the road again on you tube or whatever it is can be amusing but most of their fans seem like fat pensioners in Union jack shorts
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SLUDGE FACTORY
Birmingham City should be at least a play off side in this division
Daveys on the road again on you tube or whatever it is can be amusing but most of their fans seem like fat pensioners in Union jack shorts
Birmingham were terrible last season, miles off a playoff side
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Maurice Swan
Up to third? where do you get that from?
It was the live table at the time. Changed now.
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Rjk
Birmingham were terrible last season, miles off a playoff side
Maybe I should have said given the potential support they have they SHOULD be a far better side
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SLUDGE FACTORY
Maybe I should have said given the potential support they have they SHOULD be a far better side
Why don’t we just give promotions based on attendance?
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WJ99mobile
Why don’t we just give promotions based on attendance?
Why would you want to do that ? That's silly
Although generally bigger clubs with bigger crowds in bigger cities with better facilities to attract better players tend to prosper 😉
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Des Parrot
Win by 4 goals at West Brom to go top :hehe: there’s the motivation right there
Sad to say our strikers couldn't hit the proverbial barn door even though the rest of the team are excellent surpassing expectations.
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SLUDGE FACTORY
Why would you want to do that ? That's silly
Although generally bigger clubs with bigger crowds in bigger cities with better facilities to attract better players tend to prosper
What , like Bradford, Plymouth, both Bristol clubs , Notts County and the like ?
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TWGL1
What , like Bradford, Plymouth, both Bristol clubs , Notts County and the like ?
Aye Liverpool , Manchester , Leeds , Newcastle , London , Birmingham , Southampton......those sort of places
I like Bradford , its an interesting place but like Plymouth footballers wouldn't generally head there
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SLUDGE FACTORY
Aye Liverpool , Manchester , Leeds , Newcastle , London , Birmingham , Southampton......those sort of places
I like Bradford , its an interesting place but like Plymouth footballers wouldn't generally head there
Southampton? Same population as Cardiff without the external support to back it up, with Pompey close to hand.
successful yes.... big no!!
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xsnaggle
Southampton? Same population as Cardiff without the external support to back it up, with Pompey close to hand.
successful yes.... big no!!
Southampton is much smaller than Cardiff and I’d argue they are a bigger club
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TWGL1
Southampton is much smaller than Cardiff and I’d argue they are a bigger club
Wigan 2021 population 329.000 , small club
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TWGL1
Wigan 2021 population 329.000 , small club
The population of Wigan is not 321 k lol 😆
The population of the town of Wigan is about 80000
The population of the administrative area is 321 k
It's a tiny place
The population of Barry is not 140 k ......the population of the Vale of glamorgan ....the population of Barry is about 50 k
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xsnaggle
Southampton? Same population as Cardiff without the external support to back it up, with Pompey close to hand.
successful yes.... big no!!
Southampton urban area approx 900000
Cardiff Urban Area ........................450000
This support to back it up arguement simply doesn't hold water . Most major cities in the UK will have an extended hinterland . The problem is getting them , and the locals , to turn up .
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TWGL1
Southampton is much smaller than Cardiff and I’d argue they are a bigger club
No it isn't. It's a bit smaller than Cardiff but has a bigger metropolitan population who , if they weren't poncing about on boats , would be saints fans .
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SLUDGE FACTORY
No it isn't. It's a bit smaller than Cardiff but has a bigger metropolitan population who , if they weren't poncing about on boats , would be saints fans .
Mate , I’ve got the ONS statistics, population of Southampton
249,000, Cardiff around 370,000
Metro area roughly the same
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TWGL1
Mate , I’ve got the ONS statistics, population of Southampton
249,000, Cardiff around 370,000
Metro area roughly the same
The Southampton urban area is 900 k Cardiff , half that
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SLUDGE FACTORY
The Southampton urban area is 900 k Cardiff , half that
Really?
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SLUDGE FACTORY
The Southampton urban area is 900 k Cardiff , half that
One minute you’re saying we have a support base of over 1m, and are support is rubbish, now you’re saying it’s half :hehe:
Cardiff UDZ is over 1m.
Bridgend 145,000
Caerphilly 175,000
Vale of Glamorgan 131,800
Cardiff 370,000
Torfaen 92,300
RCT 237,000
Merthyr 58,800
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SLUDGE FACTORY
The Southampton urban area is 900 k Cardiff , half that
If you include Portsmouth maybe. Southampton's actual urban area is about 300k
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City123
If you include Portsmouth maybe. Southampton's actual urban area is about 300k
No that's the population of the city of Southampton
Including Portsmouth the metropolitan area of South Hampshire is 1 .6 million
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TWGL1
One minute you’re saying we have a support base of over 1m, and are support is rubbish, now you’re saying it’s half :hehe:
Cardiff UDZ is over 1m.
Bridgend 145,000
Caerphilly 175,000
Vale of Glamorgan 131,800
Cardiff 370,000
Torfaen 92,300
RCT 237,000
Merthyr 58,800
That's the urban area of south east Wales, not the urban area of Cardiff......known as the Cardiff urban area
That's 500 k , not 1 million which includes all those satellite towns like Bridgend and Merthyr which are 20 miles from Cardiff
That's not the same as a built up urban area
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SLUDGE FACTORY
No that's the population of the city of Southampton
Including Portsmouth the metropolitan area of South Hampshire is 1 .6 million
There is no local authority for S Hampshire, however the whole of Hampshire ( has 1.4 million population) but has Dorset to the west, Wiltshire to the north-west, Berkshire to the north, Surrey to the north-east, and West Sussex to the east.
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Cardiff Urban Area ....Cardiff and nearby built up areas ......479000
Southampton ......800000
Cardiff Metropolitan Area .......Cardiff , Newport , Bridgend , Valleys , Vale Of Glamorgan .....1 .1 million
Southampton Portsmouth Metropolitan Area .....1.6 million
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SLUDGE FACTORY
Cardiff Urban Area ....Cardiff and nearby built up areas ......479000
Southampton ......800000
Cardiff Metropolitan Area .......Cardiff , Newport , Bridgend , Valleys , Vale Of Glamorgan .....1 .1 million
Southampton Portsmouth Metropolitan Area .....1.6 million
Wrong , I’m looking at the 2021 census
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SLUDGE FACTORY
No that's the population of the city of Southampton
Including Portsmouth the metropolitan area of South Hampshire is 1 .6 million
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Hampshire
Southampton & Portsmouth are in the same urban area.
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TWGL1
There is no local authority for S Hampshire, however the whole of Hampshire ( has 1.4 million population) but has Dorset to the west, Wiltshire to the north-west, Berkshire to the north, Surrey to the north-east, and West Sussex to the east.
There's no local authority for Cardiff, the Vale, the valleys, Bridgend but its known as the Cardiff metropolitan area , about 800000, 1.1 million including Newport
South Hampshire .....Southampton and Portsmouth, 1.6 million
If we take just Southampton, the city , together with the built up area around it .....the Southampton urban area is about twice the size of Cardiff
Cardiff as a football club has the valleys , Bridgend, the Vale of Glamorgan etc within driving distance but they are not part of Cardiffs urban area ....25 miles away in some cases
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City123
That's a metropolitan conurbation .....they merge
Cardiff and Newport and the valleys and Bridgend don't join ......not yet anyway
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TWGL1
Wrong , I’m looking at the 2021 census
Don't engage with him. He's been argumentative and somewhat shell-shocked since Monday evening.
He predicted "The 'Pool" would trounce Crystal Palace 5-0 (and that was just at halftime) and has had a cob on since they flopped. He was supremely confident before their opening fixture at Fulham as well.
Gloom has descended upon the Cowbridge smut king's abode.
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TWGL1
Wrong , I’m looking at the 2021 census
You are wrong
Southampton urban area 800k
Cardiff 450 or so
Cardiff is bigger as a city but smaller as an urban area
Nottingham , Newcastle .........both smaller cities than Cardiff ......but far bigger urban built up areas
It makes me laugh when people think Cardiff.....is bigger than .....Newcastle
As a dot on the map maybe but the urban expanse is huge . Go to Newcastle or Nottingham or Southampton , go around the places
Far bigger than Cardiff
South Hampshire is the name given to the population of the Southampton, Portsmouth built up area ..1. 6 million ......that's bigger than the south Wales built up area
You said Hampshire has a population of 1.6 million .......that's only Southampton and Portsmouth.....
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2021 census doesn’t mention S Hampshire, so perhaps they have changed the boundaries
Portsmouth 208,100 104,900 103,200
Southampton 249,000 124,000 125,000
Wealden 160,100 83,000 77,100
Hampshire 1,400,800 716,000 684,700
Basingstoke and Deane 185,200 93,500 91,700
East Hampshire 125,700 64,700 61,000
Eastleigh 136,400 69,700 66,700
Fareham 114,500 58,700 55,800
Gosport 81,900 41,800 40,100
Hart 99,400 50,300 49,100
Havant 124,200 64,200 60,000
New Forest 175,800 91,200 84,500
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SLUDGE FACTORY
You are wrong
Southampton urban area 800k
Cardiff 450 or so
Cardiff is bigger as a city but smaller as an urban area
Nottingham , Newcastle .........both smaller cities than Cardiff ......but far bigger urban built up areas
It makes me laugh when people think Cardiff.....is bigger than .....Newcastle
As a dot on the map maybe but the urban expanse is huge . Go to Newcastle or Nottingham or Southampton , go around the places
Far bigger than Cardiff
South Hampshire is the name given to the population of the Southampton, Portsmouth built up area ..1. 6 million ......that's bigger than the south Wales built up area
You said Hampshire has a population of 1.6 million .......that's only Southampton and Portsmouth.....
So, as Cities go, Cardiff is bigger than Nottingham and Newcastle?
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SLUDGE FACTORY
That's a metropolitan conurbation .....they merge
Cardiff and Newport and the valleys and Bridgend don't join ......not yet anyway
"In the 2001 census Portsmouth and Southampton were recorded as being parts of separate urban areas however by the time of the 2011 census they had merged to become the sixth largest built-up area in England with a population of 855,569"
The figure you're quoting as being Southampton's urban area also includes Portsmouth. The total urban population of Southampton in 2001 was 304,000 so either it's trebled in 20 years or they've included Portsmouth since 2011, which seems more likely?
This map: https://www.citypopulation.de/en/uk/cities/englandua/ shows the urban area, it includes Portsmouth
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Cardiff apparently is around 400,000 as a city , in 2022
Population change in certain areas may reflect how the coronavirus (COVID-19) pandemic affected people's choice of usual residence on Census Day, for example, students in Cardiffs case and in other urban areas of the city itself people were not at home.