came across as a dreadful, sour, old xxxxx (fill in the gaps).
Mordaunt seemed the most normal.
So if the Tory members choose we can expect more crap.
40 deg next week is the least of our worries!
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came across as a dreadful, sour, old xxxxx (fill in the gaps).
Mordaunt seemed the most normal.
So if the Tory members choose we can expect more crap.
40 deg next week is the least of our worries!
think mordaunt will win
[QUOTE=Rjk;5321816]think mordaunt will win
She's well brushed and confident and talks a good game
I think she will win but a plague on all their houses , they are conservatives
I used to think sunak should be in the liberal party , like a fair few conservatives , he seemed OK
But his wife trousering all that cash .....and he knew about this .....means he's another chancer
[QUOTE=Tuerto;5321822]That made me cringe
Corbyn was applauded at Glastonbury because he was a genuine bloke even if people might not have agreed with all he stood for .....his heart was in the right place
If Mordaunt walked on stage at Glastonbury people would be aiming rockets at her
If I was at Glastonbury and a bunch of Tories were partying with pimms listening to Coldplay or Elbow next to me , trying to be radical , I would set fire to their tent
It’s a shame some of these Union guys didn’t go into politics. They would wipe the floor with Starmer and these Tories. Starmer is an absolute drip, a Tory plant in Labour clothing. The future is so ****ing grim, starting to wish I didn’t have children as it’s going to be an absolute shot show for them.
lets go kemi
Sludge will have a big stiffy for months if Truss or Mordaunt get the job.
When the jocks gave labour the push that was the beginning of the end .....70 seats probably lost for ever to the SNP
Then brexit and the red wall vote
I would like a team up with the liberals and a new party for 2022 for people who don't vote Tory
I think it's the only hope of beating them now
Damn good post JR 👍 however looking at all of these Tory candidates tonight I don't think Starmer has got anything to worry about against any of these lightweights. I thought the best (easily) of a shockingly bad job was Sunak, who is a comfortable challenge for Labour. The others, particularly the three females were scuttling around in Wonderland with Alice.
kemi, kemi ,our next leader , she won't call your mum a chest feeder
Miserable git.
What year were you born in? Would be interesting to compare the world you were born into to the one you claim is so terrible now.
Also. Assuming you live in Wales, it's all good...as the people you bemoan have no say over education, healthcare, transport and other devolved topics anyway.. so less moaning perhaps!?
I didn't watch tonights debate but All the Tory candidates are bad, Starmer is worse.
Penny Muduant is a shit lib and has zero intellect. The perfect puppet for the Rothschilda and will probably win.
This thread is unbelievable really as its probably mainly working / middle class people thinking they have a say. All probably intelligent people thinking what they think counts. Sorry but in my humble opinion of which I know many of you don't think counts but the game was lost years ago and whether blue or red they are taking the piss and making the most from us until someone clocks it which will be a long time
I voted for Nandy. Starmer wasn't on my list. I think I'm right in saying that he's reneged on all of his election promises. The last straw for me was him cosying up to the Prince Of Darkness Baron Mandelson. I resigned my membership and wrote to Starmer. I never got a reply. I did get a really good reply and support from the Bute Labour (my local branch at the time). It wasn't enough. If I could join Welsh Labour as a separate party that might be an option but Starmer's Labour Party is not for me. I've dabbled with the Greens but I'm done with party politics and prefer direct action and activism these days.
With what happened with Corbyn, surely it's time to get rid of Starmer, he seems almost as unpopular. (Although I don't really understand why) An election could be looming. Doesn't Angela Rayner seem more electable? Or is she too northern and too socialist? There have always been a lot of people in Britain so deluded they think they have to have to aspirationally vote Tory. We don't do leadership change over here. There are no official opposition leaders. But if Biden doesn't announce he won't run for re-election in 2026 before October, the Democrats and possibly this country are ****ed. Republicans will seize control of maybe both houses. And nothing will get done. Apart from Supreme Court decisions. And that will not go well. I'm no fan of Hillary Clinton, but this could all have been so easily avoided. The lines that control law and democracy are beyond fine.
Someone starts a thread about a robot who wants to become Prime Minister and people who identify themselves as left of centre politically turn it into yet another Starmer/Labour bashing session. Lord knows, Labour/Starmer annoy me at times, but isn't the issue here that, for the third time in six years, the population of the UK are having a Prime Minister foisted upon them by an electorate of around 350 in the House of Commons and some 200,000 Conservative party members, who we're told are mostly old, white men living in the shires?
I won't be watching any of the leadership debates because it's not a good thing to try to get to sleep while feeling depressed, but, from what I can gather, Tugenhadt, who knows he's not got much longer in this race, was pretty honest in his opinions, so went down best with the huge majority of us who have no say in the process, Sunak sounded vaguely realistic about the situation the country finds itself in, Badinoch, as is her wont, blathered on about culture wars stuff, so would have impressed some, Mordaunt was a bit of a damp squid and Truss failed miserably in her bid to come over as a modern day Margaret Thatcher.
I've also read, albeit on Twitter, that the real winner on the night was Keir Starmer, I'm not sure about that, but I would say that the often voiced theory that Johnson's cabinet was a collection of political pygmies and the rush among the candidates, even those not in the Cabinet, to promise tax cuts rather bears that theory out - all of the realistic candidates to succeed Johnson have weaknesses.
For me, Labour/Starmer should be concentrating more on mapping out what they stand for more than continuously bashing a Government that is clapped out and can only now offer anti woke rhetoric, paranoia about their Brexit being stolen from them, Johnson type boosterism and trying to cash in on public goodwill towards Ukraine after twelve long years in power.
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">For the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/C4LeaderDebate?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw"># C4LeaderDebate</a> Liz Truss has recreated Margaret Thatcher’s appearance from her 1979 election broadcast down to the last detail <a href="https://t.co/pqzJPADQsl">pic.twitter.com/pqzJPADQsl</a></p>— Andrew Gunn 🇺🇦 (@ASGunn) <a href="https://twitter.com/ASGunn/status/1548028238110216192?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 15, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
Did anyone notice that Liz Truss was dressed like Margaret Thatcher? Wooden is the best word to describe her performance.