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Highway Code changes.
The right of way to pedestrians at corners and junctions has to be a recipe for collisions surely.
https://www.pattersonlaw.co.uk/impor...-code-in-2022/
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Re: Highway Code changes.
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Originally Posted by
the other bob wilson
Rule H3 - …and advises drivers that cyclists may even occasionally ride two or three abreast to make themselves safer….
Great, I can see this leading to incidents of road rage when you have 3 cyclists abreast having a chat and idyllically making their way down a road when there is no opportunity to overtake them
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Re: Highway Code changes.
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Originally Posted by
Don Corleone
Rule H3 - …and advises drivers that cyclists may even occasionally ride two or three abreast to make themselves safer….
Great, I can see this leading to incidents of road rage when you have 3 cyclists abreast having a chat and idyllically making their way down a road when there is no opportunity to overtake them
Yes.
I thought that as well.
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It's the right thing to do but not the most practical and safest
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The lack of publicity, or government information campaign on the changes, is the worst aspect of this.
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Originally Posted by
The Bloop
The lack of publicity, or government information campaign on the changes, is the worst aspect of this.
Yes its the 1st ive heard of it.
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Originally Posted by
The Bloop
The lack of publicity, or government information campaign on the changes, is the worst aspect of this.
I did hear there were TV adverts to come, but I agree. My understanding is that the rules apply now, so we should have been watching those adverts, if there are some, fora few weeks by now. There are fundamental changes in how we conduct ourselves on the roads involved here and and I’m sure there are others on here who have been driving in a different way for ages - in 2024, it will be fifty years since I passed my driving test and, after so long, it’s going to be hard to get used to driving in a different way.
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Re: Highway Code changes.
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Originally Posted by
The Bloop
The lack of publicity, or government information campaign on the changes, is the worst aspect of this.
They are in-fighting like rats in a sack, give them a break.
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Now cyclists have the run of the road, how about starting to charge them for using our roads.
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Re: Highway Code changes.
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Originally Posted by
Don Corleone
Rule H3 - …and advises drivers that cyclists may even occasionally ride two or three abreast to make themselves safer….
Great, I can see this leading to incidents of road rage when you have 3 cyclists abreast having a chat and idyllically making their way down a road when there is no opportunity to overtake them
Encouraged to position themselves centrally as well.
I wouldn't mind if even half the cyclists I saw abided by even the most basic rules themselves. I know there are some that do of course.
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Well bugger me I can’t use my butler to carry the red flag in front of my vehicle anymore!
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Re: Highway Code changes.
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Originally Posted by
Cleve van Leef
Well bugger me I can’t use my butler to carry the red flag in front of my vehicle anymore!
actually I think these changes mean that you could
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Re: Highway Code changes.
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Originally Posted by
BLUETIT
Now cyclists have the run of the road, how about starting to charge them for using our roads.
Roads are paid for out of income tax, council tax and VAT so they already do.
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Re: Highway Code changes.
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Originally Posted by
Trigger
Encouraged to position themselves centrally as well.
I wouldn't mind if even half the cyclists I saw abided by even the most basic rules themselves. I know there are some that do of course.
I thought cyclists always should have positioned themselves centrally.
I’m not a cyclist (you couldn’t pay me to cycle on our roads with how aggressive and blind car drivers can be) The problem is drivers over taking close and fast.
There are some arse hole cyclists but they’re quite unlikely to kill or hurt anyone on the same scale a motorist is.
If everyone just paid a bit more attention to the road and the hazards, both cyclists and car drivers, the roads would be a safer place. But so many still drive as close as possible to the car in front and over take bikes, horses etc way too close.
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Anyone up for a game of anti-cyclist bingo?
Road tax
Insurance
2 abreast
Pavements
Cycle lanes
Lycra
No lights
Going Through Red Lights
Queen Street
No bell
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I read as well that formally the advice will change to suggest that cyclist use the middle of the road.
Which in a practical sense is absolutely mad.
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Originally Posted by
Croesy Blue
I thought cyclists always should have positioned themselves centrally.
I’m not a cyclist (you couldn’t pay me to cycle on our roads with how aggressive and blind car drivers can be) The problem is drivers over taking close and fast.
There are some arse hole cyclists but they’re quite unlikely to kill or hurt anyone on the same scale a motorist is.
If everyone just paid a bit more attention to the road and the hazards, both cyclists and car drivers, the roads would be a safer place. But so many still drive as close as possible to the car in front and over take bikes, horses etc way too close.
Following the change of advice, they would be overtaking them a damned site closer in future.
It's crazy and reckless. And I suspect few cyclists would observe this
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Originally Posted by
JamesWales
I read as well that formally the advice will change to suggest that cyclist use the middle of the road.
Which in a practical sense is absolutely mad.
isnt it the middle of the lane?
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Originally Posted by
Rjk
isnt it the middle of the lane?
Yes, sorry..the middle of the lane instead of keeping to one side
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Originally Posted by
JamesWales
Yes, sorry..the middle of the lane instead of keeping to one side
I don't think that's a big deal, to overtake safely you need to go into the oncoming lane anyway so it's got to be clear.
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Originally Posted by
JamesWales
Yes, sorry..the middle of the lane instead of keeping to one side
On how many single carriageway roads does it make overtaking easier if the cyclist is towards the side, as opposed to the middle of the lane? In either instance, to overtake safely, you'd be on the opposite side anyway.
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Originally Posted by
The Bloop
Anyone up for a game of anti-cyclist bingo?
Road tax
Insurance
2 abreast
Pavements
Cycle lanes
Lycra
No lights
Going Through Red Lights
Queen Street
No bell
Riding at speed, as if they’re all in the Tour de France
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in my entire 25 years of driving a motor vehicle on this countries roads, the longest individual time I've been delayed by being stuck behind a cyclist is probably about 2 minutes tops.
I've never understood why people get so angry about that, lighten up, what were you going to do in those 2 minutes?
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Re: Highway Code changes.
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Originally Posted by
Croesy Blue
I thought cyclists always should have positioned themselves centrally.
I’m not a cyclist (you couldn’t pay me to cycle on our roads with how aggressive and blind car drivers can be) The problem is drivers over taking close and fast.
There are some arse hole cyclists but they’re quite unlikely to kill or hurt anyone on the same scale a motorist is.
If everyone just paid a bit more attention to the road and the hazards, both cyclists and car drivers, the roads would be a safer place. But so many still drive as close as possible to the car in front and over take bikes, horses etc way too close.
What the hell are you doing, posting common sense on CCMB?
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Re: Highway Code changes.
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Originally Posted by
The Bloop
Anyone up for a game of anti-cyclist bingo?
Road tax
Insurance
2 abreast
Pavements
Cycle lanes
Lycra
No lights
Going Through Red Lights
Queen Street
No bell
Two’s up as well:hehe:
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Re: Highway Code changes.
Rule H2
Provides stronger priority for pedestrians at junctions and clarity of who has right of way.
The new rule states that instead of cars having priority when they turn left or right into junctions, pedestrians crossing the road will now have priority over those vehicles.
Nothing new about this, it has been the same for over 50 years, when I took my test::
"Vehicles turning from a major road to a secondary road must give way to pedestrian crossing the minor road"
I don't know why they have said this is new but at least highlighting it might educate some modern drivers,
Another point to bear in mind is that the Highway code is not law. It is intended to make road users aware of their rights and obligations. A lot of the things in it are covered elsewhere by statue but not everything. It very cleverly doesn't tell you which are and which aren't.
I've read several articles like the one mentioned in the last couple of weeks and they are all the same.... basically click bait. The highway code does not change the actual law so whatever it says about cyclists and pedestrian is either already enshrined in law or is merely advice.
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Re: Highway Code changes.
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Originally Posted by
Rjk
in my entire 25 years of driving a motor vehicle on this countries roads, the longest individual time I've been delayed by being stuck behind a cyclist is probably about 2 minutes tops.
I've never understood why people get so angry about that, lighten up, what were you going to do in those 2 minutes?
:hehe: exactly. Same people who fear their masculinity is threatened if somebody overtakes them or ask to be let in on a slip road or when merging 2 lanes to 1.
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Why on earth would you object to cyclists keeping to one side to allow vehicles to pass more easily?
Is that not just deliberately antagonising people, creating more stress, conflict etc, ultimately discouraging cyclists in the long run?
Seems to me that if you can safely pull to one side it's the sensible, polite and reasonable thing to do.
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Re: Highway Code changes.
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Originally Posted by
the other bob wilson
I did hear there were TV adverts to come, but I agree. My understanding is that the rules apply now, so we should have been watching those adverts....
Could have sworn that the article linked to said "Changes to the Highway Code
Major changes are being made to the Highway Code on the 29th January 2022".
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Originally Posted by
Cyclops
Could have sworn that the article linked to said "Changes to the Highway Code
Major changes are being made to the Highway Code on the 29th January 2022".
Yes but some of the things mentioned aren't changes at all
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Just in case Delmbox wants to know where I've been between 15:34 and 23:27...... I've been in work. :biggrin:
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Originally Posted by
Cyclops
Could have sworn that the article linked to said "Changes to the Highway Code
Major changes are being made to the Highway Code on the 29th January 2022".
I went by what I heard on the radio yesterday morning - the rules were already in force. Anyway, even if that was wrong, you would have thought any advertising campaign would have been in full swing now with the rule changes four days away.
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There appears to be some disingenuous mis-information being broadcast here - a difference between what is being reported and the actual new Highway Code - which can be read at https://www.gov.uk/government/consul...e-highway-code.
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Re: Highway Code changes.
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Originally Posted by
xsnaggle
Rule H2
Provides stronger priority for pedestrians at junctions and clarity of who has right of way.
The new rule states that instead of cars having priority when they turn left or right into junctions, pedestrians crossing the road will now have priority over those vehicles.
Nothing new about this, it has been the same for over 50 years, when I took my test::
"Vehicles turning from a major road to a secondary road must give way to pedestrian crossing the minor road"
I don't know why they have said this is new but at least highlighting it might educate some modern drivers,
Another point to bear in mind is that the Highway code is not law. It is intended to make road users aware of their rights and obligations. A lot of the things in it are covered elsewhere by statue but not everything. It very cleverly doesn't tell you which are and which aren't.
I've read several articles like the one mentioned in the last couple of weeks and they are all the same.... basically click bait. The highway code does not change the actual law so whatever it says about cyclists and pedestrian is either already enshrined in law or is merely advice.
An example of why there should have been a campaign. Like virtually all of us you dont understand the new rules re pedestrians.
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If I was a pedestrian i wouldn't step into a road. Car driver could be a member of the Tory Govt. These rules probably dont apply to them.
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Originally Posted by
Hilts
If I was a pedestrian i wouldn't step into a road. Car driver could be a member of the Tory Govt. These rules probably dont apply to them.
NaH Man, tOrIES wUD dRiVe uP on ThE pavEmenT 2 NoCK u DoWn. EsP iF u R waItInG 4 a BuS cOS ToReEs h8 ThE pOOr LOl
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Originally Posted by
JamesWales
NaH Man, tOrIES wUD dRiVe uP on ThE pavEmenT 2 NoCK u DoWn. EsP iF u R waItInG 4 a BuS cOS ToReEs h8 ThE pOOr LOl
you are a grown man.
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Originally Posted by
Rjk
you are a grown man.
Mocking another grown man.:ayatollah:
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Originally Posted by
Rjk
you are a grown man.
Angry Tory.😂😂😂😂