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8,000 away fans there. Bout a 300 mile round trip on a cold Tuesday evening against a lower league club.
Got to hand it to the Geordies. They do travel .
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Aw c’mon, it’s the Shearer Derby:hehe:
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William Treseder
8,000 away fans there. Bout a 300 mile round trip on a cold Tuesday evening against a lower league club.
Got to hand it to the Geordies. They do travel .
Newcastle , Sunderland
Football cities
Absolutely obsessed with their club
And it's all from up there, not like the plastic scousers and mancs from Surrey
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SLUDGE FACTORY
Newcastle , Sunderland
Football cities
Absolutely obsessed with their club
And it's all from up there, not like the plastic scousers and mancs from Surrey
I suspect if Newcastle had won the vast amount of trophies that Manchester United and Liverpool have done, they'd have the exact same sort of fanbase.
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Der Kaiser
I suspect if Newcastle had won the vast amount of trophies that Manchester United and Liverpool have done, they'd have the exact same sort of fanbase.
They would have an even bigger fanbase than they already have, obviously
They are starved of success and still take thousands away
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SLUDGE FACTORY
They would have an even bigger fanbase than they already have, obviously
They are starved of success and still take thousands away
True, but United have had average attendances over 50k and Liverpool over 40k as far back as the 1940s... I'm not sure the 'glory hunter' trend was really a thing then. So with or without glory hunters they'd have a huge following. So your initial point is a bit irrelevant.
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Der Kaiser
True, but United have had average attendances over 50k and Liverpool over 40k as far back as the 1940s... I'm not sure the 'glory hunter' trend was really a thing then. So with or without glory hunters they'd have a huge following. So your initial point is a bit irrelevant.
The fact that Newcastle and Sunderland have had scant success compared to Liverpool and Man U makes their attendances more impressive, wouldn’t you say ?
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William Treseder
The fact that Newcastle and Sunderland have had scant success compared to Liverpool and Man U makes their attendances more impressive, wouldn’t you say ?
Or perhaps relfects on others things like the lack of other things to do, the need to do at least 1 fun thing and the rivalry that exists between the cities way beyond football that has been handed down trough generations and football giving it a vent.
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William Treseder
The fact that Newcastle and Sunderland have had scant success compared to Liverpool and Man U makes their attendances more impressive, wouldn’t you say ?
That's what I would say
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Der Kaiser
True, but United have had average attendances over 50k and Liverpool over 40k as far back as the 1940s... I'm not sure the 'glory hunter' trend was really a thing then. So with or without glory hunters they'd have a huge following. So your initial point is a bit irrelevant.
They had SOME attendances over 50 and 40 k
But so did Newcastle
They are an enormous football club given their relative lack of success and their geographical position
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SLUDGE FACTORY
They had SOME attendances over 50 and 40 k
But so did Newcastle
They are an enormous football club given their relative lack of success and their geographical position
Is this the enormous football club that twice lost around 20% of its crowd after relegation to Division 2 in the 80s/90s? In fact, from 1976 to 1981 crowds halved as Newcastle went from 5th in the top division to bottom half in Div 2.
However their crowds since the early 90s have been phenomenal.
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Eric the Half a Bee
Is this the enormous football club that twice lost around 20% of its crowd after relegation to Division 2 in the 80s/90s? In fact, from 1976 to 1981 crowds halved as Newcastle went from 5th in the top division to bottom half in Div 2.
However their crowds since the early 90s have been phenomenal.
Keegan (twice) certainly had a hand in their crowd revival. Their crowds certainly dipped in the Keeganless years between his time as a player, then manager. 16,000 average in 90/91.
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Eric the Half a Bee
Is this the enormous football club that twice lost around 20% of its crowd after relegation to Division 2 in the 80s/90s? In fact, from 1976 to 1981 crowds halved as Newcastle went from 5th in the top division to bottom half in Div 2.
However their crowds since the early 90s have been phenomenal.
Well as you know crowds before italia 90 were poor
Our crowds in the late eighties and some of the 1990s were sometimes around 2500
Newcastle even with crowds of 18000 absolutely dwarfed us
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SLUDGE FACTORY
Well as you know crowds before italia 90 were poor
Our crowds in the late eighties and some of the 1990s were sometimes around 2500
Newcastle even with crowds of 18000 absolutely dwarfed us
Their first Premier League season their average was 33,000 and they sold out once. We were floundering then and can hardly be compared.
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Their first Premier League season their average was 33,000 and they sold out once. We were floundering then and can hardly be compared.
The Premier league took several years to get going
Newcastle are a massive club by anyone's standards
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I’ve a soft spot for Sunderland.
“The Mags” have always seemed to be very entitled to me.
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SLUDGE FACTORY
Newcastle , Sunderland
Football cities
Absolutely obsessed with their club
And it's all from up there, not like the plastic scousers and mancs from Surrey
Oh Jesus. This Again?
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NYCBlue
Oh Jesus. This Again?
Like Groundhog Day.
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SLUDGE FACTORY
Newcastle , Sunderland
Football cities
Absolutely obsessed with their club
And it's all from up there, not like the plastic scousers and mancs from Surrey
3 people I grew up with supported Newcastle from childhood, another lad I was in school with has supported Sunderland since he was a nipper, there's a couple of Wolves fans known in the area. Not very glory hunting mind.
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Oh Jesus. This Again?
It never stops.
Self appointed bastion of football fandom criticising others for not supporting their local club.
His local football league club would be the Jacks mind.
Apologies Sludgey.
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Idiot that I am, I clicked on this thread expecting to find out who won :hehe:
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Well if they are taffies then that's odd and they deserve stick , not praise
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Jordi Culé
It never stops.
Self appointed bastion of football fandom criticising others for not supporting their local club.
His local football league club would be the Jacks mind.
Apologies Sludgey.
That's stretching it beyond reasonable geographical boundaries
I mean Liverpool and Manchester are 200 miles from South Wales , its fantasy armchair football
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the other bob wilson
Idiot that I am, I clicked on this thread expecting to find out who won :hehe:
I thought the game was a bit boring but match of the day were having kittens
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Eric the Half a Bee
Is this the enormous football club that twice lost around 20% of its crowd after relegation to Division 2 in the 80s/90s? In fact, from 1976 to 1981 crowds halved as Newcastle went from 5th in the top division to bottom half in Div 2.
However their crowds since the early 90s have been phenomenal.
They are great fans, and enjoy a few pints and a game black and white everywhere you go!
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Newcastle , Sunderland
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Absolutely obsessed with their club
And it's all from up there, not like the plastic scousers and mancs from Surrey
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They are great fans, and enjoy a few pints and a game black and white everywhere you go!
One of British footballs giants
Newcastle , Wolves , Derby , Sunderland , Villa , Wednesday
Working class football clubs with loyal local support
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God no !
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SLUDGE FACTORY
One of British footballs giants
Newcastle , Wolves , Derby , Sunderland , Villa , Wednesday
Working class football clubs with loyal local support
Newcastle a working class football club? They are owned by a Middle Eastern state. :hehe:
Gone are the days football clubs are owned by the local businessman with a few bob.
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Newcastle a working class football club? They are owned by a Middle Eastern state. :hehe:
Gone are the days football clubs are owned by the local businessman with a few bob.
I totally agree with you about the ownership but the club is overwhelmingly a working class club
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I totally agree with you about the ownership but the club is overwhelmingly a working class club
And so is Liverpool. They hate the Tories and the establishment more than you. If you dont think the people of Liverpool are obsessed with their football teams - Liverpool and Everton - in the same way as fans of Newcastle, Villa, and the others you mentioned, then you are seriously deranged.
I was listening to Pete Hooton of The Farm on the radio last week. Great guy, absolutley obsessed with football and Liverpool FC.
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And so is Liverpool. They hate the Tories and the establishment more than you. If you dont think the people of Liverpool are obsessed with their football teams - Liverpool and Everton - in the same way as fans of Newcastle, Villa, and the others you mentioned, then you are seriously deranged.
I was listening to Pete Hooton of The Farm on the radio last week. Great guy, absolutley obsessed with football and Liverpool FC.
I don't think the people from Surrey and Pontypridd who support Liverpool are the same as 8000 geordies travelling 4 hours on a Tuesday night to support their team
If 8000 Liverpool fans travel to London loads of them will live locally
When the geordies play in London very few will be that type of fan , they will be up at 5am from Newcastle Central
Hardcore , loyal support
It's not difficult to understand
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SLUDGE FACTORY
I don't think the people from Surrey and Pontypridd who support Liverpool are the same as 8000 geordies travelling 4 hours on a Tuesday night to support their team
If 8000 Liverpool fans travel to London loads of them will live locally
When the geordies play in London very few will be that type of fan , they will be up at 5am from Newcastle Central
Hardcore , loyal support
It's not difficult to understand
By that logic people from Pontypridd who are Liverpool or Man United season ticket holders and travel a 7 hour round trip every home game should be applauded then?
The vast majority of match going Liverpool fans are from Liverpool. A die hard Liverpool supporter, from Livcerpool, is no different to a die hard Newcastle supporter from Newcastle, or a Carlisle fan from Carlisle.
Yes Liverpool have a global support too, it comes with being succesful in the 70s and 80s as football started reaching a wider audience, but to suggest that their core match going support is not from the city of Liverpool is ludicrous. Most Premier League clubs these days, the larger more established ones - including your Newcastle and Villas - have an element of support outside of the city and plenty of tourists too.
And on the subject of support, Liverpool supporters were 100% the proverbial 12th man on Sunday. NQAT.
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The night we played Liverpool in the League Cup in 2007 at Anfield, an old Liverpool fan we were talking to in the pub after the game described non Liverpudlian Liverpool fans as excess baggage. Made us laugh.
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J R Hartley
And so is Liverpool. They hate the Tories and the establishment more than you. If you dont think the people of Liverpool are obsessed with their football teams - Liverpool and Everton - in the same way as fans of Newcastle, Villa, and the others you mentioned, then you are seriously deranged.
I was listening to Pete Hooton of The Farm on the radio last week. Great guy, absolutley obsessed with football and Liverpool FC.
It's something that's rarely talked about these days. But Liverpool and Manchester are historically great football cities. For all 4 clubs. It's not their fault that they attract glory hunters. I see glory hunting as a weakness in character. When I say we/us about the City I think I deserve it. I stood on the Bob Bank with a gang of half a dozen mates that were 20 yards away from the next gang of half a dozen mates. I'll take the lows all day long because it's worth it for the highs. I'm still proud that we gave Liverpool a good game in the League Cup Final, I'm also still gutted that we didn't beat them. We could have. Pompey, not so much, we were never really in that game. The Cities of Liverpool and Manchester could ban "outsiders" and they'd still get over 200,000 fans attending games between them all. Normal people can't afford it these days. I have a mate who's a Chelsea season ticket holder, he treats himself to 3 or 4 games a season. The rest of the tickets he has to sell. But he's Chelsea. Always has been, it's not his fault they became a rich club. It's the glory hunters that keep his season ticket alive.
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NYCBlue
It's something that's rarely talked about these days. But Liverpool and Manchester are historically great football cities. For all 4 clubs. It's not their fault that they attract glory hunters. I see glory hunting as a weakness in character. When I say we/us about the City I think I deserve it. I stood on the Bob Bank with a gang of half a dozen mates that were 20 yards away from the next gang of half a dozen mates. I'll take the lows all day long because it's worth it for the highs. I'm still proud that we gave Liverpool a good game in the League Cup Final, I'm also still gutted that we didn't beat them. We could have. Pompey, not so much, we were never really in that game. The Cities of Liverpool and Manchester could ban "outsiders" and they'd still get over 200,000 fans attending games between them all. Normal people can't afford it these days. I have a mate who's a Chelsea season ticket holder, he treats himself to 3 or 4 games a season. The rest of the tickets he has to sell. But he's Chelsea. Always has been, it's not his fault they became a rich club. It's the glory hunters that keep his season ticket alive.
It makes me laugh now how people mock Man City and their support. Before the oil money they were always well regarded as a team with good support. Getting big numbers home and away when they dropped down the divisions and their neighbours were winning all the major trophies domestically and in Europe. People have short memories, especially when it comes to football.
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I expect many locals of these big teams can’t get a look in due to cost.
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J R Hartley
It makes me laugh now how people mock Man City and their support. Before the oil money they were always well regarded as a team with good support. Getting big numbers home and away when they dropped down the divisions and their neighbours were winning all the major trophies domestically and in Europe. People have short memories, especially when it comes to football.
28,000 + average gate in the third tier is not to be sniffed at.
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I expect many locals of these big teams can’t get a look in due to cost.
Which is why they take the piss out of the day trippers