Unstoppable, dribbles into the box, about four or five Napoli defenders around him, falls over, drags the ball back under control while getting up and plants the ball in the back of the net...... go get him Neil.
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Unstoppable, dribbles into the box, about four or five Napoli defenders around him, falls over, drags the ball back under control while getting up and plants the ball in the back of the net...... go get him Neil.
Btec Cristiano Ronaldo
He's no Tomlin...Quote:
Originally Posted by splott parker
It’s a shame he stuck with Barcelona as long as he has and hasn’t experienced new leagues, new countries.
not even a cornelius
But he may be an adequate replacement should Tomlin’s move to Man City materialise:getscoat:Quote:
Originally Posted by Tuerto
He can chew the fat with Cameron Coxe...Quote:
Originally Posted by splott parker
did anyone tune into the chelsea v Munich game ?
Munich were immense tonight
as for Messi the boys still got it !
Quarter Final Ties
Atalanta v PSG
Leipzig v Athletico Madrid
Barcelona v B Munich
Man city v Lyon
They were excellent.Quote:
Originally Posted by MOZZER2
BTW
Bayern's aggregate score against London teams in the cl this season is 17-4. So much for the English prem being the best league in the world.. tinpot pish
When was the last time the Bundesliga, or any other league for that matter, had two teams in the Champions League final, while at the same time providing both teams for the Europa Cup final?Quote:
Originally Posted by Pilkers
I've paid as much attention to the Champion's League's early stages as I normally do (ie next to none), but Bayern look to be the team to beat to me.Quote:
Originally Posted by MOZZER2
To me Robert Lewandowski is currently the best player on the planet
scored 53 goals this season in all competitions and was involved in every goal that defeated chelsea home and away (7 goals )
have now cored 66 goals in the champions league making him the 4'th highest in history
think any budding young centre forward should model themselves around him especially link up play
That Messi goal sums him up - 99% of players would have looked to the ref for a pelanty when he was down in the area, but he was up and looking to score.
When people talk about the Premier League being the best in the world, I'm pretty sure most are referring to the league's strength in depth and the excitement that generally brings (although that didn't happen so much this year in what is definitely a transitional season for some of the top clubs).Quote:
Originally Posted by Pilkers
However, here are some facts to ponder:
In the last 20 years, three teams from the Bundesliga have reached the Champions League final (Bayern Munich, Borussia Dortmund and Bayer Leverkusen). During the same period, five teams from the Premier League have done likewise (Arsenal, Chelsea, Liverpool, Manchester United and Tottenham).
In the last 20 years, only one German team has won the Champions League (Bayern Munich, twice). In the same period, three English teams have won the competition (Chelsea, Manchester United and Liverpool, twice).
In the last 10 years, only two teams from the Bundesliga have reached the Champions League final (Bayern Munich and Borussia Dortmund). During the same period, four teams from the Premier League have done likewise (Chelsea, Liverpool, Manchester United and Tottenham).
During the history of the Champions League, there has only been one all-German final (Bayern Munich v Borussia Dortmund in 2013). There have been two all-England finals (Manchester United v Chelsea in 2008 and Liverpool v Tottenham in 2019).
The champions league makes me want to throw up , its capitalist football screwing money out of the game
I never watch it unless its the highlights to watch a premier league big club lose
Would rather watch rochdale v bury in a local Derby
Over paid diving players, sure they are very skilful but its all plastic nonsense
Rochdale v Bury or PSG v Real Madrid? Difficult decision! 😂Quote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
I like route one football mateQuote:
Originally Posted by Maurice Maeterlinck
Joe Dwyer
When men were men
Great goal.
Messi for me is the greatest, although Barcelona haven't been great this season and can't see them stopping Bayern.
I think the Premier league is starting to now be the best league. You look at it and from 2000 all the best Pl players went to Spain apart from the British ones. Hazard Bale Henry Suarez and they have still haven't stood out like Ronaldo and Messi that's why I think different leagues is irrelevant.
Also look at all the players to come from Spain and been massive success. If Real and Barca want you that's where you go.
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Originally Posted by mazadona10
Good goal ok, but did he do a press up like Koumas, no he did not .
How do those facts stack up against the Spanish league where Messi plays?Quote:
Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman
In the last 20 years, four teams from La Liga have reached the Champions League final. During the same period, five teams from the Premier League have done likewise.Quote:
Originally Posted by insider
In the last 20 years, two Spanish teams have won the Champions League. In the same period, three English teams have won the competition.
In the last 10 years, three teams from La Liga have reached the Champions League final. During the same period, four teams from the Premier League have done likewise.
During the history of the Champions League, there have been three all-Spanish finals. There have been two all-England finals.
For me, it’s still hard to take that a team finishing 4th ....or even 5,6 or 7th in the PL can go on to be crowned the best team in a “Champions” league. Indeed, if, say, Burton Albion won the League Cup, then the Europa Cup, then the Champions League.....unlikely but technically possible. Grumpy old man speaking here of course.
I guess the logic is that if we are looking for the Best Team in Europe, then the team finishing 4th in England might have better credentials that the champions of Northern Ireland or Latvia. Sad though, eh?
I get what you mean but otherwise the competition would basically be between 4 maybe 5 teams. Would make winning CL so much easier. Whilst you may see better players playing in Portugal, Russia, Scotland etc the competition wouldn't be the best.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pontprennau Bluebird
Years ago it would have been far easier to win a European Cup for that reason. I mean they could possibly do a European super league and at the end of the season. Do a champions tournament. However by that point would probably be even more bored of seeing the same teams.
Brilliant!Quote:
Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman
You missed out there have been 10 Spanish wins in the last 20 years
By two Spanish teams!Quote:
Originally Posted by insider
Are you capable of saying anything about anything without making it political? It really is dull.Quote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
Thanks!Quote:
Originally Posted by insider
You said: "How do those facts stack up against the Spanish league where Messi plays?"
Therefore, I gave you equivalent facts for the Spanish league where Messi plays.
I wasn't aware you were actually after some different facts.....
Everyone knows how strong Real Madrid and Barcelona are, both historically and currently. The same goes for Bayern Munich. But does that equate to the leagues they play in being strong?
Well you were equating the EPLs "Greatness" with its "success" in the Champions league whilst only stacking it up against the German league.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman
Just seemed a bit obtuse with the thread being on Messi who plays in by your workings out the best league in Europe.
You gotta fight the power or take it up the arseQuote:
Originally Posted by xsnaggle
I was replying to a post which said: "Bayern's aggregate score against London teams in the CL this season is 17-4. So much for the English Prem being the best league in the world.. tinpot pish."Quote:
Originally Posted by insider
I thought that was obvious as I'd quoted it.
Tell you what, this board is seriously hard work these days.....
Incidentally, at no stage did I refer the EPL's 'greatness'. I know you dislike the Premier League, you've told me as much, but this wasn't a question of what we like or what we don't. It was about which leagues are strong and which are less so.Quote:
Originally Posted by insider
quite a lot of people dislike the Premier league, we can't all be wrongQuote:
Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman
There's quite a lot to dislike, although i suppose it's about separating the greed from the football. It's ok to enjoy something in a world where greed and profit are put first, it's not my fault or anyone else's for that matter, we don't have a choice on how these things are run-we can still like football :thumbup:Quote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
The days of Barcelona and Real Madrid being the best sides in Europe are long gone at the moment. Barcelona have been poor this season and their off the field
problems and recruitment issues have really caught up with them. Their bench for the Napoli game was just bang average. I think the two of them will struggle for any CL success over the next few years. Man City and Liverpool have raised the bar in England and Bayern are probably the best team in Europe at the moment.
Messi will take stick when they go out the CL this week but the fact they got within 5 points of Madrid and have got to the CL etc is mainly down to him. Still makes me laugh he took stick for the Liverpool 4-0 win last year. 2 goals in the first leg and set dembele up for a tap in that he missed in injury time which would’ve made it 4-0. Set up three chances in the first half of the away leg then had to watch on as the defence and midfield collapsed again. It’s a shame the last of his peak years will be whilst Barca are trying to slightly rebuild.
I refuse to pay to watch football , if millions of others hadn't bought into the Premier league things might have been different . It gave armchair man united fans in Surrey the chance to watch their adopted team but I have better things to spend my money on than watching pay to watch top flight football . If cardiff city get promoted and get loads of cash 5hats great for the club but morally it doesn't sit well with meQuote:
Originally Posted by Tuerto
Basically I think modern football at the top stinks