It's just a bad habit and a complete waste of a vote. Plaid is the only real Welsh party who will defend our interests. Go on, waste your votes on Corbin and reap what you sow yet again.:sherlock:
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It's just a bad habit and a complete waste of a vote. Plaid is the only real Welsh party who will defend our interests. Go on, waste your votes on Corbin and reap what you sow yet again.:sherlock:
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I've yet to speak to any voter who were enthused by the party they voted for or planned to vote for. People seem to place their X next to what they believe is the best of a bad bunch.
Plaid have one vote in our house.. so far.Quote:
Originally Posted by Watcliff
All I've got to say is that, about six weeks into the campaign, I'm far more likely to vote Labour now than I was when the election was called - I'm still no fan of Corbyn, but, Dianne Abbott apart, I feel he and his party are having a good campaign and I really like their manifesto.
The gloves will be coming off today by all accounts.Quote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
I'm not surprised, it's forecast to be 25c. Who still wears gloves in May anyway? (Insert fisting joke here).Quote:
Originally Posted by Wales-Bales
I've made a fisting joke up for this thread Barry.Quote:
Originally Posted by Barry Shitpeas
Did you hear about the the world's busiest fisting enthusiast? He was up to his elbows in it.
If he wasn't so anti business I would vote for Labour 100%.Quote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
If Brexit is going to be bad then good luck to people thinking socialist policies on top will be a good idea.
we will have no need to work, they will look after us anywayQuote:
Originally Posted by LordKenwyne
option 1, work 40 hours per week for £300
option 2, stay home and let them look after the poor with £400 in benefits
option 3, work part time ( 20 hours ) earn £150 and get £400 in help
its a tough choice
Well positioned ,I think a lot of Labour voters may well take that view , I know I'm one ,and many ive chatted have confirmed the same , it's upsetting after all these years of loyalty to Labour I find myself in this position .Quote:
Originally Posted by ninianclark
I think with Brexit coming and the uncertainty of the world's security these times need experienced tough people.
We need a strong and stable leadership to put your busy mind at rest.Quote:
Originally Posted by life on mars
Repeat after me ... Strong & Stable Strong & Stable Strong & Stable Strong & Stable Strong & Stable Strong & Stable Strong & Stable Strong & Stable Strong & Stable Strong & Stable ... ZZZZZZzzzzzz
May is doing a good job of throwing away a 6-0 halftime lead. Not sure we could get more incompetent than that although I am sure Corbyn will prove me wrong tonight and plumb some new depths.
Talking to a mate of mine whose working with lawyers and accountants in town, he says he and most of the blokes he knows in the office would usually vote Conservative - not this time - they are all voting Labour, for two reasons - 1 May 2 May :biggrin:Quote:
Originally Posted by ninianclark
It is funny when you realise it actually works...Quote:
Originally Posted by Wales-Bales
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Originally Posted by ninianclark
* Fill in the blanks to claim your prize
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Non-voter her, but it's fun to observe the shenanigans surrounding an election. I enjoy the psychological aspect of it all, particularly how the media influence people's thoughts.Quote:
Originally Posted by ninianclark
Pray tell, what has this Government, with all of it's experience of being in charge of the country themselves or in coalition actually achieved? Although unemployment figures are always massaged to show any Government in the best possible light and questions could be asked about the sort of jobs that have been created, I concede their record on jobs is good, but where else can they be said to have succeeded?Quote:
Originally Posted by ninianclark
The Conservative party are supposed to be the ones who are the soundest when it comes to finances and yet there has been a litany of targets not reached or that have had to be "adjusted" because they were taken longer to achieve than first thought - in many cases, what was supposed to have been reached by 2015, will now, we are told be achieved by 2020, or probably 2022, now.
The news this week that net immigration was running at nearly two and a half times above the target that our strong and stable leader was supposed to achieve during the coalition Government was being presented as a triumph of sorts by some, because it represented an improvement on the more than three times over target figure during the last year when she who must be obeyed was running the Home Office.
Despite her party's attempts to steal defeat from the jaws of victory, I still expect our strong and stable leader to be Prime Minister on June 9, but if enough voters get the "Emporer's New Clothes" analogy when applied to her in the way that this writer clearly does with his remarks in the first three paragraphs of his piece
https://www.theguardian.com/politics...founds-critics
then I might just turn out to be wrong.
I'm not actually sure our present overlords are these tough experienced people. They are running quite possible the worst election campaign in history. Michael fallon being interviewed on channel 4 was so bad I almost felt sorry for him. Theresa May is a mess of mediocrity and as for Boris....Quote:
Originally Posted by life on mars
They'll probably still win but I hope the cocky bastards have as much anxiety as possible the next two weeks with opinion polls hopefully narrowing some more.
I wasn't very pro Corbyn but he's changed my mind and looks far more dignified, assured and intelligent then anyone in the Conservatives. I have a feeling the press will keep sniping and the IRA Sinn Fein story will keep getting regurgitated.
God help us all when the Tories get back in , quite simply the worst collective class of politicians I've ever seen.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wTPckw2m1YQuote:
Originally Posted by CardiffIrish2
Maybe not in the Diane Abbott class, but not far off it - thanks for the mention of this interview :thumbup:.
Oops, I've just made a thread on this topic, it probably deserves one though!Quote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
And the IRA Sinn Fein story should be repeated until he gives a convincing argument as to why he has given them such backing over the years including times when they were the terrorists everybody feared.Quote:
Originally Posted by CardiffIrish2
What would you consider convincing?Quote:
Originally Posted by Elwood Blues
Nothing I have heard so far.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eric Cartman
Perhaps someone involved in the peace process (other than Sinn Fein) saying that his contacts over the years had helped significantly towards tge peace process.
Has he convinced you?
Why would you need proof that his interventions were successful for them to be considered well intentioned?Quote:
Originally Posted by Elwood Blues
I just get the impression most people have already made their mind up and short of Corbyn going 'okay fine I bloody love the IRA!' they won't believe a word he says on the matter.
This might come across as a bit insensitive but it doesn't matter a great deal to me. These things are always a bit more complicated than we like to think - We were on team Saddam, then we hate Saddam. We were on team Gaddafi then we hate Gaddafi. The reality is that the British did some terrible things in Ireland and the IRA did terrible things in Ireland and here. I would prefer if this election were fought on policies and the future rather than mud slinging.
She's a liar liar liar
https://mobile.twitter.com/chunkymar...200000/video/1
And another one
https://mobile.twitter.com/OwenJones...305793/video/1
Typical of the woman, Corbyn talks about solutions and May talks about Corbyn. She really hasn't got anything to say has she, except for what her handlers tell her to say and do.Quote:
Originally Posted by tigerbaybluebird
The Maybot 3000 is starting to come a bit unstuck and its feckin hilarious
Have you got a link?Quote:
Originally Posted by ninianclark
Has the 'war on terror' worked? Is it working?Quote:
Originally Posted by ninianclark
It's working for some, as it is a very profitable business!Quote:
Originally Posted by Eric Cartman
I just share my impartial observations :thumbup: Day to day politics is a small subset of my overall interests :biggrin:Quote:
Originally Posted by ninianclark
Surely even the thickest of voters can see that Labour and conservative are as bad as each other? Both offering the same old crap and no new ideas re Wales. Labour and Tories, wasted votes for wales
Lets be honest you don't understand the in's and out's of what each party are offering.Quote:
Originally Posted by Watcliff
It's the same old crapQuote:
Originally Posted by LordKenwyne
https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0...ca&oe=59A0A8B1Quote:
Originally Posted by Wales-Bales
:hehe:
Saw Leanne Wood earlier answering questions, never used to like her but she's grown on me, seems quite genuine compared to some, mind you that's not hard.
Plaid get my vote. A true Welsh party.
Yes YOU keep spouting the same old crap. Plaid is a sad party for xenophobic losers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Watcliff
By the sounds of it, you are a little bit thick and uninformed if you can't see there are new ideas.Quote:
Originally Posted by Watcliff