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Man ordered to uncover face in front of police camera and then fined £90.
Met cops stopped and fined him £90 for disorderly behaviour after he tried to avoid a facial recognition camera in east London - https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-new...front-16155463
There's a video of the incident at the link. Photo below of the bloke who was criminalised for having the temerity to conceal his face from a Nanny knows best snooping camera.
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2019/05...8006278646.jpg
Dodgy cap
Taser the suspect before he can do any harm to innocent standers by NQAT
The police used it in Cardiff for the Champions League Final 2017. Within 10 years it will used at most of the football league stadiums in this country. That's my take anyway. Authority's excuse will be that it is protecting innocent football fans from known, banned hooligans attending games, or some other inane bollux.
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Originally Posted by Organ Morgan.
From now on I am not trimming my nose, eyebrow or ear hair and growing a huge beard. Ferk the police!!!
I'm growing a very long fringe.Quote:
Originally Posted by Maccy Blue
I’m going to start walking backwards :hehe:
And shake my head at all times like on Four Lions.Quote:
Originally Posted by BLUETIT
What about those in a burka
The outrage if a woman in a burka was asked to do this would be insane
It would be racist to ask a wearer of one of those to reveal themselves for the Big Brother cam, even though Muslims aren't a race.
Some people are more equal than others.
And this is exactly how things like UKIP happen.Quote:
Originally Posted by Philccfc29
Muslims are a race just like Jews are a race.Quote:
Originally Posted by Organ Morgan.
Do you think an atheist person from a Jewish family would not have been put in a camp by the Nazis?
Do you think an atheist Muslim from Iran can get into America?
The resident Scouser is off :shrug:Quote:
Originally Posted by Croesy Blue
Offended by everything
The way these cameras are being used in China there should be uproar that they’re getting used in this country.
Ways to take our rights away will always be sold as protecting us first.
They’ll sell it to us based on Muslims and terrorists and people will lap it up though.
Your claims are contrary to British law. Read the Crime and Disorder Act 1998 for further clarification.Quote:
Originally Posted by Croesy Blue
Britain First leaders jailed for anti-Muslim hate crime - https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-a8244161.html
- The leaders of far-right extremist group Britain First have been jailed for anti-Muslim hate crimes after targeting people they incorrectly believed were involved in an ongoing rape trial.
Paul Golding and Jayda Fransen, both of Beeches Close in Penge, were convicted on several counts of religiously-aggravated harassment following a trial at Folkestone Magistrates’ Court, which heard their actions could have caused rapists to walk free. -
Note the crime they were convicted of was religiously-aggravated rather than racially-aggravated? They are separate and distinct. It's why a Hearts fan was once convicted of a racially-aggravated public order offence when he described Celtic player Craig Bellamy as a "wee Welsh bastard." Had he uttered Christian, Sikh or some other religion instead of "Welsh" he'd have been done for a religiously-aggravated public order offence.
They aren’t my claims they’re the definition of what a race is.
Do you only believe a definition if it’s written in british law, that’s a bit big brother isn’t it?
Have you ever read 1984?
[quote]A race is a grouping of humans based on shared physical or social qualities into categories generally viewed as distinct by society. First used to refer to speakers of a common language and then to denote national affiliations, by the 17th century the term race began to refer to physical (phenotypical) traits. Modern scholarship regards race as a social construct, an identity which is assigned based on rules made by society. While partially based on physical similarities within groups, race is not an inherent physical or biological quality.[quote]
An "atheist Muslim" is a contradiction in terms. I'm afraid you are confusing ethnicity (I think you like to call it "race") with religious belief.Quote:
Originally Posted by Croesy Blue
There are white Muslims, Asian Christians and black Jews. Do you see the point?
You stated unequivocally Muslims are a race. Not unnaturally I presumed that was your view as there was no indication it was someone or something else's. Now it appears you've parroted a mysterious entity's opinion while singularly failing to articulate why. Anyone can convert to Islam, Judaism, Christianity and so on and with it, in your world, become a member of different race. The subject of this thread surrounds an incident that occurred on British soil. It must be plain why British law is relevant. Yes, I have read that book.Quote:
Originally Posted by Croesy Blue
Just out of curiosity, why would he have been done for racially aggravated public order offence for the phrase “wee Welsh bastard”?Quote:
Originally Posted by Organ Morgan.
Welsh isn’t a race, it’s a nationality. Craig Bellamy is white, was the other guy not white? How was it racial?
It isn’t a contradiction to racists though you see.Quote:
Originally Posted by az city
To Nazis a person from Jewish parents who wasn’t religious at all would still have been sent to auschwitz. Just as a person from a Muslim background who doesn’t practice religion still gets abuse for being Muslim and would still not get into the US if they were from a certain country.
Do you see the point?
If you’d read the book you must realise the irony in parroting a governments view on what something is.Quote:
Originally Posted by Organ Morgan.
Anyone can convert to them that’s why there is a difference between the Muslim religion and the Muslim race when it comes to instances like this and why you can be racist against a Muslim person and a Jewish person.
Answer the question, do you think a person from Jewish parents who considered themselves to be an atheist would have not been sent to auschwitz?
Atheist Muslim is the funniest thing I’ve ever read on this board. Fair play you don’t half come up with some gemsQuote:
Originally Posted by Croesy Blue
It's a bit like being a Sunni Christian...Quote:
Originally Posted by Llandaff Blue
I don't think that Muslims are a race, maybe an ethnic group would better describe them, although there are some Jews who consider themselves a race and their religious beliefs as separate, same with some Arabs, they consider themselves a race and their religion separate also. It's very confusing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Croesy Blue
Dreadful , as he obviously not hiding his face, for any reason , and just innocently blowing his blowing his nose.
Think Muslim is a follower of the religion of Islam.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tuerto
Obviously talking Shiite.Quote:
Originally Posted by Llandaff Blue
I see your point but am not getting into that stuff because Moggis has recent form for deleting a thread he deemed was 'Holocaust denial'.Quote:
Originally Posted by Croesy Blue
Welsh is a race as defined by the Act I mentioned in an earlier post. I, like you, think it's nonsense that Scottish, Irish, English and Welsh people constitute different races. Here's a press report of the case: Hearts fan is fined for racial remark against Celtic player - https://www.scotsman.com/news-2-1501...ayer-1-1067822Quote:
Originally Posted by rs3100
The defendant, who was found guilty, I recall was white from reading a Hearts forum at the time.
Frankly, no. You don’t have a point. Any reasonable reading of what you asserted is religious belief and ethnicity are equally valid in determining “race”. Your “evidence” appears to be the Nazis conflated the two.Quote:
Originally Posted by Croesy Blue
I’m not picking an argument with you but what you’re posting is bizarre.
Judges have ben known to demand it from witnesses in court, and so they should.Quote:
Originally Posted by Organ Morgan.
Why pick on Ben :hehe::hehe:Quote:
Originally Posted by xsnaggle
There is no muslim race.Quote:
Originally Posted by Croesy Blue
As there is no communist race etc.
I could tell you but I might be accused of being a bennist! :hehe:Quote:
Originally Posted by BLUETIT
Speaking of irony, you berate someone for "parroting" a view yet do exactly the same thing yourself in post 17. A definition is after all only someones opinion of what a word means.Quote:
Originally Posted by Croesy Blue
Police facial recognition surveillance court case starts. The first major legal challenge to police use of automated facial recognition surveillance begins in Cardiff later....
Full story here:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-48315979
It's not you is it Mr Morgan :hehe: ?
Apparently a man by the name of Richards. I thought I may know him but the Richards family I know are all such a bunch of rogues that every copper in Cardiff knows them and is on first name terms!! They would never need facial recognition. :hehe:Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr Soul '68