is he injured ? :shrug:
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is he injured ? :shrug:
No, he has a game of golf arranged, but don't tell anyone.
That’s just weird.....why would Spurs spend so much on a players wages and never play him?
Yeah it’s all a bit weird now. 20minutes here, the odd half there. Mourinho is really getting exposed with his negative tactics and Bale just dosn’t seem to fit into his defence minded system. They’ve been awful for a while now and same thing happening for Deli Ali. Another creative player being ignored. He was supposed to go to PSG but Levi blocked it so why keep them if they don’t play?
Sad waste really and dosn’t help us in the slightest for Wales with the euros coming up.
I think it's over for Bale, injuries have done for him and it looks like he's not that bothered about playing the game anymore, certainly at club level. Although i do think that Mourinho is-will use the Bale transfer as a way of defending himself when the inevitable happens. He'll say that the funds should've gone somewhere else, he didn't want Bale, Levy went over his head, blah, blah.
Me either. I don't pay a lot of attention but my neighbour supports Spurs and I seem to remember him saying they'd not brought in a decent forward and it smacked of Levy bringing him back to appease some discontent.
Did Real still owe money on his move to them?
I've no idea on the details, but like you my mate is a Spurs fan and he's now convinced more then ever that Levy did it.
Not sure where he goes from here, probably best off in America or the Middle East. I can't see him finishing his contract with Madrid next season.
Just hope this apparent dip doesn't tarnish his legacy with Wales.
People used to say that Whitts did not like football, I don't think that's true, but Bale has struck me as someone who's fallen out of love with the game based on what's happened with him at Real Madrid Spurs. To be more accurate, I'd say Bale has fallen out of love with club football because I still think he enjoys playing for his country, but the problem is that what is happening to him at his club is bound to impact on his performances for his country and I'd have very low expectations of what he could do in the Euros this summer if they go ahead - after that, I wouldn't rule out him retiring from the game.
There MIGHT be some truth in that, but to be fair he hasn't been given much game time when fit, which is not speculation but fact.
Regardless of attitude or workrate, the guy needs to be given a run of games to get his confidence up. ..... confidence in his abilities, confidence in his physical durability.
I'm pretty sure that part of this perception of him as being lazy or is uninterested comes from the fact he tries not to overexert himself in case he gets injured again.
It think it's just a fact for him that he can't be as full on in terms of workrate as he was in the past and is the type of guy who relies on moments of brilliance....which is something that goes against him in a modern game that relies on EVERYONE to be running 10km every game.
That said, I seem to remember him heading a ball off the line against Brighton.....so , he is not against putting in a defensive shift.
We need to to see him play 10 games in a row before judging his attitude. Until then it's just total speculation and (questionable) second hand info.
If I were his manager, especially at a club like Spurs where managers come under pressure when the team is having a run like they currently are, there is no way I would give Bale ten games, you only need to see how he has jogged through his appearances with Spurs so far to see he’s not worth a place in the starting line up.
I don’t want to knock someone who is arguably Wales’ greatest ever footballer, but I can’t help thinking that attitudes towards him would be different if he wasn’t who he is.
Agreed, he can do no wrong as far as Welsh football fans are concerned, and he's earnt that. Club football wise he seems to have given up. Easy to say that looking in though.
I have the same calf injury that he does and my confidence has gone running wise (granted he's got the best medical treatment in the world, but also I don't run anywhere near as fast or explosively as he does) 🤣
How many games have you seen him play ?
Brighton and West Ham ?
I saw him in the West Ham game and he looked a bit rusty , which is to be expected, but he was definitely trying.
As far as Brighton goes, spurs lost 1-0 . I didn't see the full 90. I saw him heading a ball off the line. What about the rest of the team ? Were they all impeccable ? Cmon......
I think his nationality is a moot point . Judging ANY player on the amount of game time that Bale has had is totally unfair. I don't see any discussion beyond that really. From my point of view, anything beyond that is just noise that is filling a void of info regarding his current situation.
Like any other player, he needs to be given a run of games, he needs to score, get some praise , get some confidence. These basics don't change just because you are (or have been until recently) one of the world most revered footballers.
If he was playing at a team like Everton under Ancelotti, he'd get game time and he would have scored 4 or 5 goals by now. I'm certain of that.
Those two, Marine. Stoke, a couple of Europa League matches (at least), Wycombe, Leicester, Liverpool - there's quite a few to choose from;-
https://www.soccerbase.com/players/p...layer_id=43700
and he has scored goals, but there's been no evidence of any progression in his performances, in fact it could be said they're getting worse.
There doesn't seem to be anger when he's withdrawn and he seems happy enough just to stay on the bench. I'm not being critical for the sake of it, but his attitude raises a lot of questions and any squad member at Spurs would surely be pissed off if Mourinho came out and announced Bale was getting a ten game run in the team because I can't see he's done anything to justify such special treatment since he's been at the club.
The few times I've watched him play at Spurs, don't know if it's just me, but I noticed that other players didn't seem to want to pass to him.
He's making runs, with no end product. Looks well pissed off, if you ask me.
I think the empty stadium thing has affected each player differently...
Bale has always struck me as someone that thrives off the support or pressure from critics.....
I think as hes Welsh and was a great player people are looking for excuses for him.
Hes a shadow of the player he was.
Cmon crowds are not the issue.
These things are usually down to a number of factors that feed off each other, not one reason.
What we seem to have is a very talented player, who is very much out of sorts, apparently lacking confidence and with fitness issues.
All of this is going to have a psychological effect on Bale and the reported wage only exacerbates that. This might make it look like he doesn’t care or has an attitude problem, but given that he’s a man of few (public) words, I’d doubt that. I also think that Josh Murphy is - to some extent - going through a similar experience. I just don’t buy it that they don’t care - footballers have professional pride as well, although in truth, none of us actually know.
I’m of a mind that a move to somewhere where the expectations are lower would benefit Bale, but time is not on his side.
If only that place could be Cardiff City.
Terminate 2 million a month.....he’s fallen out of love with football clearly, probably can’t be arsed to put his body through too much more grief as he has plenty of years of life left in him yet. Can’t see any other PL club coming in for him after his showing for Spurs this season.
The best thing that could have happened was his move to China - guaranteed to play when fit and lower standard of football to showcase if he's still a class act. Instead, partly his contract situation, pride, and agent mean that he's unlikely to get a move to a club that would be a good fit for his needs.
In my opinion he's not the player he was but that doesn't mean he's cr@p. You wouldn't play Tyler Roberts or Madondo ahead of him for Wales. I think he's capable of adapting his game just as Giggs did later on in his career so that he becomes less reliant on pace and physicality... but does he want to and will he get the opportunity?
I did yes, games go like that once in a blue moon.
However watching the games prior to last night (i tend to tune into their games in the hope Bale plays some part) and they've been bloody awful. Lacklustre and clueless.
Its frustrating whats going on with him, not just from a welsh point of view but a football in general viewpoint - the team as a whole look to have really lost it though considering they were top not so long ago.
I think what we're seeing now is a quite rapid decline of a once truly great player, most likely due to the effects that multiple injuries have had on his body.
It is more noticeable because of the heights he reached in his prime. Where once there was a buzz whenever he got the ball, nobody now expects him to do anything out if the ordinary, like his famous overhead kick in the Champions League final for instance. Those days are most definitely behind him.
Of course he's still good enough to play for Wales but at club level I think he will fade into anonymity. After this season, I can't see any of the top clubs clamouring for his signature. If he wants to extend his career he could still live off his reputation but to any potential suitors it's now obvious that they would not be getting the Gareth Bale that thrilled the football world. This one is a pale imitation of a once magical footballer.
Watched him very closely in that Brighton game. Spurs were awful all over the pitch and got done every time down their left (opposite side to bale) and out fought in midfield. Bale worked on scraps and tried to make things happen then got dragged off after an hour as if it was his fault. He's barely played so you can't expect miracles.
Mourinho likes players with high intensity off the ball. Bale comes to life with the ball at his feet. It just doesn't fit.
I am sure he will stick around until World Cup 2022 qualifiers are completed and then maybe make a decision based on whether we have qualified or not ?
It's not Mourinho, it wasn't Zidane. Bale just plays like he doesn't give a shit. Hes been like that for two years. The effort he puts in is embarrassing.
I have a lot of respect for Bale but it's difficult to conclude that his incredible salary in Madrid didn't mean more to him than his career in football.
I think this is another thing that is often levelled at him unfairly.
When he plays for Wales he is exactly the same......giggling and fooling around. Only difference is that people don't pick up on it when he is actually playing. In fact the laughing and fooling around is seen as good camaraderie.
I just don't think he is the type of guy to mope around when he is not playing. It doesn't mean he isn't unhappy not to be playing.
You are right to a certain degree regarding games played though.....I watch match of the day and that's about it. In terms of Premier League matches I can't remember seeing much of him and I think it's fair to say he has featured in dribs and drabs and hasn't featured much at all over the last few months. When he has had an appearance, he has had very few minutes on the whole. I mean, I don't think it's a case of having "plenty to pick from"...far from it....especially in the PL.
I'd like to see him playing 60-80 in the same team as Keane and Son with the same regularity that those guys get. Maybe he doesn't deserve it, but I feel like we'd see more positives if Mourinho put more faith in him in the games that matter. It's not as if Spurs are blowing teams away when Bale isn't playing.
It's clear that Gareth isn't at the top of his game, but I'm not convinced it's the famine everyone makes it out to be. He needs to be with the right manager, playing the big games as a striker or advanced midfielder.
1st Zidane , Real Madrid fans , now Mourinho.
All wrong are they?