Stopping players from playing outside of Wales. How archaic, 'you can't play for Wales if u go over the bridge to play' Stupidity, but that is the dying Welsh 'day out' Egg.
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Stopping players from playing outside of Wales. How archaic, 'you can't play for Wales if u go over the bridge to play' Stupidity, but that is the dying Welsh 'day out' Egg.
It's an attempt to save the top level club game which is dying a slow death.
Diolch yn fawr iawn Bazza
t'in croeso butty.
When welsh football sells 50, 60, 70k for glorified friendlies then you can speak of welsh rugby dying.
70k+ v Japan :wave:
And If I've seen an example of someone being banned then returning, it being obvious from their same crap posts, I think this is it.
I realise there is bad feeling toward the egg (it's amazing that some egg chasers still don't want Welsh football to succeed) but criticism should be as informed as possible. While there is a downside for the players to be blocked from leaving wales, for the players at least, Wales needs it's squad to have time together before each international and the Welsh rugby team is far more likely to see more of this is it's players are still in Wales. You only have to see how halfpenny's relationship with his club side soured with his dedication to the lions and Wales. Clubs are also benefitting when their biggest players stay in Wales. The only downside is the player's pockets and, potentially, player development.
Wales football were selling 15k with £20 tickets 3 years ago.
I have a ticket stub in my room from 2008 that is £20 for a qualifier.
They havent raised prices 9 years for a reason
Cardiff wouldnt be half the city without investment due to the guaranteed large attendances of rugby. They can't rely on football fans as we've a history of being huge glory hunters that wont turn up to games.
Actually I'll just avoid rugby threads in the future this happens every time. :getscoat:
I not into egg chasing but I was listening to this on BBc Wales. Surely it's a case of 'restriction of trade' under the law. If you're good enough to throw an egg to next man, then go and lie on top of said man whilst other men run over to lie on top of you and this is how you earn your living, but then u can earn a bit more by letting foreign men lie on top of you abroad (EU) but you are still good enough to let Welsh men lie on top of you if u was still in Wales n the Welsh team but you cant cause you crossed over to France under Eu law to take ur Labour where u want but not this fussy Welsh law. Can they stop u earning money by not letting people lie on u in a Welsh jersey when u defo would have been picked if u never went away to let other men lie on u?
And how many of them regularly watch their local team? Cardiff Blues average 7,000 a game, City averaged 16,000 in season 15/16 when we were shit. Newport Gwent Dragons average 5,000 whilst County average about 3,000.
On that basis, how on earth can they compete financially for players with the big French and English clubs?
Welsh Rugby Internationals are more of a social event than a sporting one these days. Sure, like every sport, there are some hardcore supporters but most of them seem to be hellbent on getting totally shitfaced, showing off their sparkly cowboy hats and with a bit of luck gurning on the big screen.
Imagine telling Chris Coleman that he can only pick players who currently play in Wales? Ridiculous.
I am not denying their are a huge number of glory hunters with the rugby. & cardiff on rugby day is like new years eve, I imagine not everyones cup of tea. But that isn't what people on here say. They say everyone in the ground is a idiot drunk. As if cardiff city or wales football don't have those!.
When in truth tickets are first given to local rugby clubs for sale. Then debenture tickets holders. Then people with WRU memberships. Then to general sale.
I get debenture tickets sometimes and people near me tend to be 50 +, knowing loads about the game. In the lower tiers you'll see people there simply to get hammered but not elsewhere.
How much outcry was there over city's colour change?.....Have you seen the chopping and changing of the regions in welsh rugby?. Gutting clubs of their history. Not only that but the league was meaningless for years. Now they've changed that with the no guarantee of European places.
But the poster was on about club and regional rugby which is struggling badly.It is a desperate attempt to keep the best welsh players playing in wales.But the money english and french clubs offer can't be matched by wales even with the revenue from internationals.
If rugby is so popular in Wales how come nobody sponsors the regions with any significant money?
The WRU need to step up and assist all international squad players with extra money to their club contract.
This is the only way that we can hope to retain Welsh players in Wales.
Like football, it is a short career so moving to double your salary is something we would all do.
No one says the club game is popular do they?.
The main thing is there is a big european tournament in rugby international every single year. That is why people tend to care more about it.
You cant compare football/rugby fans really the circumstances are different.
With football how long will it be till we see big games again?. Rugby have them every autumn and February/March.
Isn’t that kind of the point though.
All we ever hear is how wales is a rugby nation and we all love it.
Yet the reality is that If that was true then how come club rugby attracts two men and a dog?
As someone posted earlier, rugby is all about the day out on the piss.
Probably explains why there’s no rugby in the Arab countries.
No alcohol = no point.
The Welsh national team is an invitational side and thus there is no restraint of trade. The WRU would just say that Webb isn't good enough to be included and they rate the players playing locally to be better, Webb would have to prove in a court of law he was the best scrum half Wales have which of course would be farcical.
His excuse is that he had no idea of the impending changes to our selection policy which must be bollocks. They have called Webbs bluff by saying he could rip his contract up with Toulon which I highly doubt he will do to play for pittance in front of a few thousand hardy souls shuttling around in the Liberty on a Friday night. I hope he calls the WRUs bluff and tells them to go **** themselves and wait until they come grovelling back when Gareth Davies inevitably picks up an injury, we do not have the strength in depth to not pick players. Our players should be able to play where they like, there is simply not the money nor the appetite in Wales from the public for club rugby anymore.
The real fall out from this rule will begin in a few seasons time when the lads playing abroads contracts comes up. After that date they will not be able to play for Wales unless they come back and play within Wales for an inferior wage, an inferior quality of rugby and inferior lifestyle (who wants to live in Llanelli when you can live in the South of France). The likes of Moriarty and Francis have never played within Wales and making them move here is unfair in my opinion. The 1948 prediction is that this new law will fall on its arse when the players agree within their whatsapp groups to leave on mass and call the WRUs bluff. Player power will prevail.
Got no problem with rugby was a good hard tackling full back in my day
But the Welsh media and soccer !! Haters make me puke
Rewind twenty years and both our club sides and national team were in a mess. At least our national team has been competitive in recent times. Having said that the regions are a mess and many supporters particularly in the valleys have been disinfranchised.
It was always going to be difficult for Welsh rugby when the game went pro. The upside was that our players no longer had to turn to rugby League to make their money. The downside was that we were never going to compete with the English and French club sides who could lure our best players with huge financial packages.
There are no obvious answers and I do fear the national team is in decline and we could be about to begin a depressing period for the game in Wales.
As someone who used to play the game, what we see today is totally different to what I remember growing up.
The league structures are all different, the rules are all different, scoring is all different - bonus points, wtf is that all about? The style of the game has changed - I'm just over 6 foot and used to play back row, I'd probably be too short to play in the centre these days. There was a certain skill, and not to mention some skullduggery in the line outs, lifting was penalised, today second rows have "handles" taped to their legs ffs and a kick to touch is pretty much giving the ball away rather than trying to get possession deep in the opposition half. Gone are the days of intricate sidesteps and passing movements, fast wingers who could beat a man with pace, it seems to be all about crash ball these days.
It seems understandable to have this situation in place don't New Zealand and Australia have similar rules regarding players plying their trade overseas.
Ultimately you need a club structure, and that structure needs funding. The clubs pick up the talented youth, they develop it, and turn them into international rugby players. They need that club structure to thrive to keep the sport alive in Wales.
Wales need sports and a variety of sports. What do we have in Wales 3 Football teams after say 20 kids a year each for their academies. That is 60 kids playing football a year and with 90% of them not making it.
Im happy that in my local village there is a structure training 5-15 year olds, under the banner of the blues. Whats the alternative really, less active children.
Regional rugby in Wales hasn't taken off as expected. You would think that one day the generation that it failed would be gone and the next generation would only know the regions but it hasn't happened yet. Personally i would like to see more sport, and therefore more sport choices for kids in South Wales rather than being bitter about a sport that is not my favorite.
:ayatollah::ayatollah: havent been on here for a few years, eggy eggy eggy oi oi oi!!!
just cos we beat up kids it don't make us thugs - Soul Crew 2007
chip alley :ayatollah::hehe:
I have no hatred for the game of rugby, I just hate the maggots that follow it.
The average attendee to the Mill Stad on matchday are either obese, violent, drunk valleys women in cowboy hats, obnoxious visitors from the opposing teams country and Taffia.
I'd love to remove all three from our city.
I doubt you go to games at the millennium as it is far more of a family event than football.
And people in the ground are more civil than the embarrassing twats screaming at referees in football. Grown men losing it haha. They don't allow booze while sat for a reason, because football fans are often scum and they can't have an ounce of responsibility as they'll abuse it like children.