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FT: FOREST GREEN 1 - 2 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
Not much interest in this game ? kick off 7.00pm
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Team news -
Cardiff City XI: Phillips, Sang, McGuinness, Flint (C), Brown, Bagan, Wintle, Pack, Harris, Giles, Collins.
Subs: Smithies, Luthra, Bowen, Jones, Bakare, Denham, Connolly, Davies, D'Almeida, Whyte, Vaulks, Ralls, Tomlin, Vassell, Zimba.
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Re: FOREST GREEN v CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
Starting to look more like a starting X1, although we are still missing some big players, Morrison, Nelson, Murphy+ our Euro players.
I know Morrison was injured at the end of last season, but this is now going on a long time. Doubt he'll be ready for Barnsley.
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Re: FOREST GREEN v CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
Anyone know what time the coverage is starting on City TV?
No need to respond, it's started!! :ayatollah:
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Re: FOREST GREEN v CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
Starting any minute.
City in pink 😎
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Re: FOREST GREEN v CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
Shep Proudfoot
Anyone know what time the coverage is starting on City TV?
Usually 5 mins before kick off
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Re: FOREST GREEN v CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
Well 20 mins or so in and each update from Twitter involves Dillon Phillips saving us.
I think I'm going to go to the pub.
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Re: FOREST GREEN v CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
Michael Morris
Well 20 mins or so in and each update from Twitter involves Dillon Phillips saving us.
I think I'm going to go to the pub.
Oh dear..
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Re: FOREST GREEN v CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
It's not great if I'm honest but then I'm not a great fan of friendlies.
We've not created a great deal outside of a dangerous cross from Giles.
I think Wintle will add something in the middle.
I'm still not the biggest fan of Pack, especially defensively.
I'm sure we'll find out a bit more about most of the new lads once the real stuff kicks off.
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Re: FOREST GREEN v CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
We'll be fine, pink don't sink
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Re: FOREST GREEN v CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
Are there any City fans there/allowed to be there this evening?
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Originally Posted by
blue lewj
Are there any City fans there/allowed to be there this evening?
Away fans not allowed!
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Re: FOREST GREEN v CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
Giles great cross, turned in by Collins from a few yards.
1-0 City
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Re: FOREST GREEN v CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
1-1 Matt beats Flint to the ball to head in from 6 yards out straight from a corner.
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Re: FOREST GREEN v CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
1-1 now.
I don't think we had a shot in the first half. Friendlies mean nothing but we look awful.
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Re: FOREST GREEN v CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
az city
1-1 now.
I don't think we had a shot in the first half. Friendlies mean nothing but we look awful.
So many free headers in the box given to the opposition and probably 10% possession
Pretty poor
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Re: FOREST GREEN v CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
City win 2-1. Gavin Whyte nets the winner.
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Re: FOREST GREEN v CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
Bloody hell that was woeful.
Scored with our only two chances but FGR had so many more chances than us.
We look lethargic, slow and completely devoid of ideas, pace and flair except for the odd occasion when Giles had the ball. But even he struggled tonight as there was little or no movement.
Passing was absolutely dreadful with no composure anywhere on the pitch.
Marlon Pack looks off the pace, made terrible tacking decisions, useless ball retention and passing was non existent. In turn that put the youngsters under a lot of pressure.
Considering we were playing with three centre backs and two defensive midfielders it's quite shocking how much possession and shots we allowed FGR to have from central areas.
I know we are missing key players .... BUT in terms of a number 10 and flair players.... All we have was on show tonight, apart from Murphy, and it's alarming.
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Re: FT: FOREST GREEN 1 - 2 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
Moore will get 30 goals plus if Giles keeps putting crosses in like those.
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Re: FT: FOREST GREEN 1 - 2 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
dml1954
Moore will get 30 goals plus if Giles keeps putting crosses in like those.
Giles crossing was the one plus point
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Re: FOREST GREEN v CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
Was not a great performance and FGR should have been out of sight with the chances they had.
We do have Morrison, Nelson , NG, Bacuna, Murphy ,Colwill and Moore to return tho.
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Re: FT: FOREST GREEN 1 - 2 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
fred keenor
Was not a great performance and FGR should have been out of sight with the chances they had.
We do have Morrison, Nelson , NG, Bacuna, Murphy ,Colwill and Moore to return tho.
Yes but we can still only play eleven Fred :hehe:
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Re: FT: FOREST GREEN 1 - 2 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
AfricanBluebird
Giles crossing was the one plus point
It will be coached out of him soon enough.
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Re: FT: FOREST GREEN 1 - 2 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
Dave Blue
It will be coached out of him soon enough.
That's not a fair remark.
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Re: FT: FOREST GREEN 1 - 2 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
Should never over analyse a PSF
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Re: FT: FOREST GREEN 1 - 2 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
Dave Blue
It will be coached out of him soon enough.
Crikey. And I get accused of posting 99 percent moans..
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Re: FT: FOREST GREEN 1 - 2 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
Yeah it was a bit rubbish but there were two spells when we played well and scored. Tomlin when he came on was a class above everybody else on the pitch, although still rusty, of course. Other positives: Bagan was neat and tidy - there was an interesting bit when Pack and I think one other were telling Bagan to pass it backwards but instead he threaded a lovely through ball to Harris who was just offside. Passing forwards - it's the future! Harris seems to do something good one moment and then mess it up, but hopefully again that's rustiness.
We had Taylor Jones on the bench who I thought could play right back/rwb (or am I wrong?) but sent Sam Bowen on to play there instead. Not sure what's going on there; perhaps just giving Bowen some game time.
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Re: FT: FOREST GREEN 1 - 2 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
dembethewarrior
Crikey. And I get accused of posting 99 percent moans..
That percentage has just risen.
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Re: FT: FOREST GREEN 1 - 2 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
Bluebirdman Of Alcathays
Yeah it was a bit rubbish but there were two spells when we played well and scored. Tomlin when he came on was a class above everybody else on the pitch, although still rusty, of course. Other positives: Bagan was neat and tidy - there was an interesting bit when Pack and I think one other were telling Bagan to pass it backwards but instead he threaded a lovely through ball to Harris who was just offside. Passing forwards - it's the future! Harris seems to do something good one moment and then mess it up, but hopefully again that's rustiness.
We had Taylor Jones on the bench who I thought could play right back/rwb (or am I wrong?) but sent Sam Bowen on to play there instead. Not sure what's going on there; perhaps just giving Bowen some game time.
I preferred to watch the cricket, so can't say much about last night because I've only watched Mick McCarthy and Dillon Phillips' interviews so far. However, hearing our manager say that we probably played better against Cambridge makes me think I've not missed much because we were poor in the first game and not much better than okay in the second one on Saturday.
Hearing the interviewer say Forest Green dominated possession in the first half should be a source of embarrassment to our team given we're two divisions above them, but I don't suppose it will be, because that's what we are and, realistically, it would be asking a bit for Ryan Wintle to come in from Crewe and totally transform a midfield that is one of the worst in the Championship when it comes to ball retention. Indeed, given the players who have left the club and those who have come in so far, it seems reasonable to think that we'll be seeing our team have even less of the ball this season if Mick McCarthy really isn't going to be bringing any one else in.
Mick McCarthy is right to say what he did about the importance of winning, but he says that from the perspective of someone who has been here six months - us supporters have had around a decade now of the team playing a type pf football that has nothing to commend it if the result doesn't go our way. We've had some success during that time of course, but I can't remember the last time I've turned up or tuned in to a game expecting to be entertained - hence my decision to watch a T20 game last night over the City, something I would never have done a few years ago.
As for Bowen at right wing back, I don't get it.
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Re: FT: FOREST GREEN 1 - 2 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
Couple of points about the game which I thought was quite competitive, more so than the earlier friendlies.
Defence was poor at defending crosses which is surprising given our height. Similar to last season.
Mc Guinness getting a lot of game time. Looks like Morrison may not be fit to start season. Big awkward lump of a player. Has a lot to do to get up to Championship standard.
Least said about our MF the better. Collins is
a goalscorer. Welcome addition to the team.
Hope all our missing players get fit soon as we need them.
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Re: FT: FOREST GREEN 1 - 2 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
Since Warnock's days we've become even more direct and 'high ball into the box' orientated. We are unable to start attacks from the back because we don't have a central defender who can pass. We don't really have a Championship quality centre midfield pairing.
I've no doubt City will slowly get their game together in the next month or two, but it's hard to see this squad anywhere mid-table - at best..
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Re: FT: FOREST GREEN 1 - 2 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
the other bob wilson
I preferred to watch the cricket, so can't say much about last night because I've only watched Mick McCarthy and Dillon Phillips' interviews so far. However, hearing our manager say that we probably played better against Cambridge makes me think I've not missed much because we were poor in the first game and not much better than okay in the second one on Saturday.
Hearing the interviewer say Forest Green dominated possession in the first half should be a source of embarrassment to our team given we're two divisions above them, but I don't suppose it will be, because that's what we are and, realistically, it would be asking a bit for Ryan Wintle to come in from Crewe and totally transform a midfield that is one of the worst in the Championship when it comes to ball retention. Indeed, given the players who have left the club and those who have come in so far, it seems reasonable to think that we'll be seeing our team have even less of the ball this season if Mick McCarthy really isn't going to be bringing any one else in.
Mick McCarthy is right to say what he did about the importance of winning, but he says that from the perspective of someone who has been here six months - us supporters have had around a decade now of the team playing a type pf football that has nothing to commend it if the result doesn't go our way. We've had some success during that time of course, but I can't remember the last time I've turned up or tuned in to a game expecting to be entertained - hence my decision to watch a T20 game last night over the City, something I would never have done a few years ago.
As for Bowen at right wing back, I don't get it.
The above is a classic example of how to over analyse a pre season friendly behind closed doors where all the squad are looking for is fitness, 5 or 6 of the first team squad (and probably the first team) are missing, the result means nothing and about 10 of the squad are under 23 players. If you want to carry on moaning and help destroy the belief and confidence of these young players then fine but I prefer to wait for the season to start before making any conclusions about how we will play, where we will finish and which players are up to the job.
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Re: FT: FOREST GREEN 1 - 2 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
dml1954
The above is a classic example of how to over analyse a pre season friendly behind closed doors where all the squad are looking for is fitness, 5 or 6 of the first team squad (and probably the first team) are missing, the result means nothing and about 10 of the squad are under 23 players. If you want to carry on moaning and help destroy the belief and confidence of these young players then fine but I prefer to wait for the season to start before making any conclusions about how we will play, where we will finish and which players are up to the job.
I always remember a pre season friendly in Cumbernauld, in the 90’s.
There we were going along nicely in the game, when the manager at the time, decided to make several changes. Well as he did, my very good friend who was sat next to me (sadly passed away now), went absolutely bananas.
Started screaming, what did you do that for, we are winning,
Some people just don’t get pre season friendlies and should stay away from them, otherwise they’ll give themselves a heart attack.
One more word on the game in Cumbernauld, it was in the middle of nowhere, no pubs, refreshments anywhere near the ground and the tossers wouldn’t let us in their clubhouse, because we were “CARDIFF CITY FANS”
Talk about reputations going before you !!!!!!!!
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Re: FT: FOREST GREEN 1 - 2 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
dml1954
The above is a classic example of how to over analyse a pre season friendly behind closed doors where all the squad are looking for is fitness, 5 or 6 of the first team squad (and probably the first team) are missing, the result means nothing and about 10 of the squad are under 23 players. If you want to carry on moaning and help destroy the belief and confidence of these young players then fine but I prefer to wait for the season to start before making any conclusions about how we will play, where we will finish and which players are up to the job.
How can I over analyse a game I’ve not seen? What I said is based on Mick McCarthy’s post match comments and what the person doing the interviewing asked him.
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Re: FT: FOREST GREEN 1 - 2 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
the other bob wilson
How can I over analyse a game I’ve not seen? What I said is based on Mick McCarthy’s post match comments and what the person doing the interviewing asked him.
He's a try hard Bob.
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Re: FT: FOREST GREEN 1 - 2 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
Am I right to understand Pack has played every pre-season game so far as a CM?
One can over-analyse friendlies of course but Pack at CB (as he was last two competitive games) should allow us more control of the ball and being a new position you'd have thought he'd be given as much experience as possible there.
We're unlikely to get promoted unless we're more comfortable on the ball, Mick appeared to have found something that improves us and now appears to have backed away from it. Any theories as to why?
I guess an experienced head might be helping Wintle settle in as quickly as possible and allowing McGuinness and Brown game time together both would aid us in 2022-2023 when, if we play our cards right, we've got a much better chance of promotion challenge.
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Re: FT: FOREST GREEN 1 - 2 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
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Former Labour leader
Couple of points about the game which I thought was quite competitive, more so than the earlier friendlies.
Defence was poor at defending crosses which is surprising given our height. Similar to last season.
Mc Guinness getting a lot of game time. Looks like Morrison may not be fit to start season. Big awkward lump of a player. Has a lot to do to get up to Championship standard.
Least said about our MF the better. Collins is
a goalscorer. Welcome addition to the team.
Hope all our missing players get fit soon as we need them.
Morrison Ng Murphy not long term according to Mick. All will feature by next Tuesday and maybe Saturday.
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Re: FT: FOREST GREEN 1 - 2 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
surge
Am I right to understand Pack has played every pre-season game so far as a CM?
One can over-analyse friendlies of course but Pack at CB (as he was last two competitive games) should allow us more control of the ball and being a new position you'd have thought he'd be given as much experience as possible there.
We're unlikely to get promoted unless we're more comfortable on the ball, Mick appeared to have found something that improves us and now appears to have backed away from it. Any theories as to why?
I guess an experienced head might be helping Wintle settle in as quickly as possible and allowing McGuinness and Brown game time together both would aid us in 2022-2023 when, if we play our cards right, we've got a much better chance of promotion challenge.
I can't remember much about the end of last season so he may have played well but other than being ok on the ball I can't think of many reasons why Pack would be selected at cb.
Surely we have far better options there.
It all comes down to movement for me, our cbs are capable of playing decent short passes to feet if there is movement ahead of them and if they are of course encouraged to do so. Not saying we will be playing it out like the best but these are championship players who should be capable of a simple pass... If the option is available.
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Re: FT: FOREST GREEN 1 - 2 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
the other bob wilson
How can I over analyse a game I’ve not seen? What I said is based on Mick McCarthy’s post match comments and what the person doing the interviewing asked him.
You analyse a lot of games, but I had no idea you’d watched any of them.
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Re: FT: FOREST GREEN 1 - 2 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
RonnieBird
You analyse a lot of games, but I had no idea you’d watched any of them.
:shrug: