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Johanna Konta - Semi finalist
Great win just now in the 1/4 final
Faces Venus in the semi final.
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She'll have to put in a stellar performance to get to the final.
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She's had a mercurial rise to the top.
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Originally Posted by
Michael Morris
Great win just now in the 1/4 final
Faces Venus in the semi final.
Only watched snippets of this girl but from what i have seen, she looks to be in with a helluva chance.
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Re: Johanna Konta - Semi finalist
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Originally Posted by
MacAdder
Only watched snippets of this girl but from what i have seen, she looks to be in with a helluva chance.
:shrug:
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How can anyone get any patriotic pride in an Australian stealing a British girls place?
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Originally Posted by
Rhiw-Blue
How can anyone get any patriotic pride in an Australian stealing a British girls place?
:hehe:
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Originally Posted by
Rhiw-Blue
How can anyone get any patriotic pride in an Australian stealing a British girls place?
Can't speak for everyone else but for me it's not about being patriotic, I just like the way she plays the game and handles herself.
I don't even think her parents are Australian are they?
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Originally Posted by
MacAdder
Can't speak for everyone else but for me it's not about being patriotic, I just like the way she plays the game and handles herself.
I don't even think her parents are Australian are they?
British parents and lived in the uk since she was 12 but never mind some will always moan about something
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Originally Posted by
Packerman
British parents and lived in the uk since she was 12 but never mind some will always moan about something
Hungarian parents according to Wikipedia. Became a British citizen in 2012.
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Re: Johanna Konta - Semi finalist
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Originally Posted by
itkman
Hungarian parents according to Wikipedia. Became a British citizen in 2012.
Bloody immigrants, stealing our tennis rankings.
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Re: Johanna Konta - Semi finalist
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Originally Posted by
Rhiw-Blue
How can anyone get any patriotic pride in an Australian stealing a British girls place?
You're a bundle of laughs fair play. I've just moved to Rhwbina. I ****ing re-""y hope you're not my new neighbor who I haven't met but likes Cardiff according to other neighbour.
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Originally Posted by
itkman
Hungarian parents according to Wikipedia. Became a British citizen in 2012.
my half bad she's lived in the uk since she was 14 but took citizenship in 2012 as you said. also hungarian parents, lived in the uk for 12 years qualifies her in my book, rugby and athletics have much shorter qualifying periods, also she's not holding back any uk born female talent
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Originally Posted by
Packerman
my half bad she's lived in the uk since she was 14 but took citizenship in 2012 as you said. also hungarian parents, lived in the uk for 12 years qualifies her in my book, rugby and athletics have much shorter qualifying periods, also she's not holding back any uk born female talent
:thumbup:
I'm sure Rhiw-Blue comment was tongue-in-cheek though Shirley, with reference to a certain Welsh football player?
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Re: Johanna Konta - Semi finalist
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Originally Posted by
MacAdder
:thumbup:
I'm sure Rhiw-Blue comment was tongue-in-cheek though Shirley, with reference to a certain Welsh football player?
Grangetown in 3 2 1....
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Originally Posted by
Packerman
my half bad she's lived in the uk since she was 14 but took citizenship in 2012 as you said. also hungarian parents, lived in the uk for 12 years qualifies her in my book, rugby and athletics have much shorter qualifying periods, also she's not holding back any uk born female talent
Moved from Australia initially to Barcelona, trained there before moving to Britain.
Colour me surprised but the same year she became British she received funding from LTA.
The decision to become British was purely for financial reasons - it was every bit as farcical as Zola Budd getting a passport of convenience.
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Originally Posted by
Rhiw-Blue
How can anyone get any patriotic pride in an Australian stealing a British girls place?
She became a UK citizen. You might acknowledge that she has Australian (and Hungarian) in her too but she's British. I appreciate it might be easier to accept if she had come to the UK before she was 10, and harder to accept if she had done it having already played for Australia in the Davis Cup for example. I.e. there's s Slovenian Brit who is far harder to accept, and not because he's nowhere near as good.
Regardless of that point, which UK women's place is she stealing? I realise it matters little for the nationality question but there really is a lack of depth in UK tennis talent.
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Originally Posted by
Pearcey3
Grangetown in 3 2 1....
:hehe::hehe::hehe::hehe::hehe::hehe::hehe::hehe::h ehe::hehe::hehe::hehe::hehe::hehe::hehe::hehe::heh e::hehe::hehe::hehe::hehe::hehe::hehe::hehe::hehe: :hehe::hehe::hehe::hehe::hehe::hehe::hehe:
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She represented Austrailia up until 2012 can you imagine Gareth Bale switching to england at the next world cup its not right, but the strawberries and cream crew are so so desperate.
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Originally Posted by
surge
She became a UK citizen. You might acknowledge that she has Australian (and Hungarian) in her too but she's British. I appreciate it might be easier to accept if she had come to the UK before she was 10, and harder to accept if she had done it having already played for Australia in the Davis Cup for example. I.e. there's s Slovenian Brit who is far harder to accept, and not because he's nowhere near as good.
Regardless of that point, which UK women's place is she stealing? I realise it matters little for the nationality question but there really is a lack of depth in UK tennis talent.
Again, she became British 2012. She received direct funding from LTA in... 2012.
It's clear her family moving to Britain was due to the financial benefits for her career - so technically that was funding not going to a British native. Would someone else receiving that money have performed the same? We'll never know.
What is clear is the changing of nationality was nothing more than a cynical career move on the part of the family.
It was wrong when Zola Budd did it, it's equally as wrong now.
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Some serious whooshing going on here
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Originally Posted by
ccfc_is_my_life
Again, she became British 2012. She received direct funding from LTA in... 2012.
It's clear her family moving to Britain was due to the financial benefits for her career - so technically that was funding not going to a British native. Would someone else receiving that money have performed the same? We'll never know.
What is clear is the changing of nationality was nothing more than a cynical career move on the part of the family.
It was wrong when Zola Budd did it, it's equally as wrong now.
Good for Johanna, she's now minted. If the LTA were prepared to support her then that's their problem, not Konta's.
If it gets British kids in to tennis then that will be great and a worthwhile investment by the LTA
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Originally Posted by
Nick
Good for Johanna, she's now minted. If the LTA were prepared to support her then that's their problem, not Konta's.
If it gets British kids in to tennis then that will be great and a worthwhile investment by the LTA
I agree it's the LTA's fault as well.
It may or may not get British kids into tennis, female sport sadly generally isn't as popular, but it still sends those kids the message that even if they show promise, if there's someone overseas that is seen to be better....
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Originally Posted by
TH63
Some serious whooshing going on here
:hehe:
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Originally Posted by
MacAdder
Can't speak for everyone else but for me it's not about being patriotic, I just like the way she plays the game and handles herself.
I don't even think her parents are Australian are they?
Don't really care about nationality.
All I know is that another screamer-grunter is out of Wimbledon :thumbup:
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Originally Posted by
DubaiDai
Don't really care about nationality.
All I know is that another screamer-grunter is out of Wimbledon :thumbup:
I was watching the match earlier and was a bit worried the wife would come home and think I was watching porn.
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Re: Johanna Konta - Semi finalist
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Originally Posted by
Rhiw-Blue
How can anyone get any patriotic pride in an Australian stealing a British girls place?
A-la Greg Rusedski
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I know a few people that moved to wales at the end of junior school and during secondary school that now think they are pedigree welsh. Accent and all.
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LordKenwyne
I know a few people that moved to wales at the end of junior school and during secondary school that now think they are pedigree welsh. Accent and all.
Can't blame them can you now is it?
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Originally Posted by
lardy
Can't blame them can you now is it?
No I'm all for it.
If Konta had children here then they'd be classed as British from birth. It is all silly.
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LordKenwyne
No I'm all for it.
If Konta had children here then they'd be classed as British from birth. It is all silly.
There we go, lovely boy.
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She is one of our own .
Just because she played for Australia till 2012 , was born in Australia to Hungarian parents.
Splitting hairs I say.
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Originally Posted by
LordKenwyne
No I'm all for it.
If Konta had children here then they'd be classed as British from birth. It is all silly.
They arent playing in WImbledon purporting to be British.
She is.
And the Press are.
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Originally Posted by
surge
She became a UK citizen. You might acknowledge that she has Australian (and Hungarian) in her too but she's British. I appreciate it might be easier to accept if she had come to the UK before she was 10, and harder to accept if she had done it having already played for Australia in the Davis Cup for example. I.e. there's s Slovenian Brit who is far harder to accept, and not because he's nowhere near as good.
Regardless of that point, which UK women's place is she stealing? I realise it matters little for the nationality question but there really is a lack of depth in UK tennis talent.
she could have welsh in her too if she wanted
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Re: Johanna Konta - Semi finalist
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Originally Posted by
MacAdder
:thumbup:
I'm sure Rhiw-Blue comment was tongue-in-cheek
Nope.
British, my arse!
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Re: Johanna Konta - Semi finalist
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Originally Posted by
Cleve van Leef
A-la Greg Rusedski
Rusedski had an English mum. Konta, no link to England or Britain whatsoever prior to coming over for the money.
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Originally Posted by
ccfc_is_my_life
Rusedski had an English mum. Konta, no link to England or Britain whatsoever prior to coming over for the money.
She moved over here at 12, if she was a footballer she would have been eligible to play for England, under the 4 year compulsory schooling laws.
The general consensus on here is that the many Welsh legacy players who play for Wales are fine, as long as they feel Welsh, or its parts of the rules, whats the difference.
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Originally Posted by
qccfc
She moved over here at 12, if she was a footballer she would have been eligible to play for England, under the 4 year compulsory schooling laws.
The general consensus on here is that the many Welsh legacy players who play for Wales are fine, as long as they feel Welsh, or its parts of the rules, whats the difference.
Konta may have moved here aged 12 but was more than happy to continue to represent Australia in the Davis Cup. Co-incidentally decided to become a British national in the same year she was given LTA money. As soon as that money was cut in 2015... moved her training base to Spain.
The move here was aimed at her career, the nationality change was aimed at getting more funding for her career. Nothing more, nothing less - a cynical usage of national status.
Welsh legacy players is different to this case for the most part. There's no English, British blood in Konta's family. The only comparable situation you could use would be if Whitts played for Wales due to having been resident here for so long - which simply would not happen at all in football, at least not in British football.
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Re: Johanna Konta - Semi finalist
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Originally Posted by
qccfc
She moved over here at 12, if she was a footballer she would have been eligible to play for England, under the 4 year compulsory schooling laws.
The general consensus on here is that the many Welsh legacy players who play for Wales are fine, as long as they feel Welsh, or its parts of the rules, whats the difference.
You are correct , we need someone to cheer on in Wimbledon , why not our very own Hungarian Aussie ?
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Re: Johanna Konta - Semi finalist
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Originally Posted by
ccfc_is_my_life
Konta may have moved here aged 12 but was more than happy to continue to represent Australia in the Davis Cup. Co-incidentally decided to become a British national in the same year she was given LTA money. As soon as that money was cut in 2015... moved her training base to Spain.
The move here was aimed at her career, the nationality change was aimed at getting more funding for her career. Nothing more, nothing less - a cynical usage of national status.
Welsh legacy players is different to this case for the most part. There's no English, British blood in Konta's family. The only comparable situation you could use would be if Whitts played for Wales due to having been resident here for so long - which simply would not happen at all in football, at least not in British football.
Wasn't there some excitable talk about Angel Rangel becoming eligible for Wales?