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Better bit of action on the pitch than the game will likely be - if it goes ahead now?
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That's strange. I didn't think United had any Manchester based fans.
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Kick-off delayed apparently.
Didn't they have any security? Wasn't anyone aware at Manchester United that this protest might happen? They'll probably be fined a bucketfull of money more than what extra security would have cost.
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19bluebirds27
Better bit of action on the pitch than the game will likely be - if it goes ahead now?
Good on them I say, time to stand up and get the fans voices heard. Peaceful and very effective protest
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Cyncoed Slumdog
That's strange. I didn't think United had any Manchester based fans.
Citizen infiltrators, clever ploy to get the rags fined:hehe:
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Would we put up with their owners idiosyncrasies if they spent £719 Million on players?
I think I would .
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RonnieBird
Would we put up with their owners idiosyncrasies if they spent £719 Million on players?
I think I would .
Let's not open that debate up, alot of our fans sold out with the mere promise of money being spent.
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I’m confused, I watch Sky’s coverage while having my dinner and hear how it was a peaceful protest and those involved were right to air their grievances at the owners, Then I go to do the washing up, switch Radio Five on and there’s blanket condemnation from pundits and fans alike with talk of violence behaviour and the protesters being little more than hooligans - it’s balanced coverage as long as you constantly switch between the two!
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RonnieBird
Would we put up with their owners idiosyncrasies if they spent £719 Million on players?
I think I would .
Spent 719m of money generated by the club itself
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RonnieBird
Would we put up with their owners idiosyncrasies if they spent £719 Million on players?
I think I would .
We did. Hammam was a precursor to the Glazer model. Splurged on players loading debt into the club whilst taking hefty amounts out to line his own pockets with little or no risk to himself. Glazers have bought Man U with borrowed money, loaded the cost of that purchase onto a debt free club in interest payments, siphoned off £200m into their own pockets whilst loading £500m debt and counting onto the club.
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J R Hartley
Spent 719m of money generated by the club itself
and taken way more money than that out of the club over the years
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alan_corneli
Kick-off delayed apparently.
Didn't they have any security? Wasn't anyone aware at Manchester United that this protest might happen? They'll probably be fined a bucketfull of money more than what extra security would have cost.
Good. That’s the only way these Yank billionaires will take any notice - if it hits them in the pocket.
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Rjk
and taken way more money than that out of the club over the years
Exactly
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RonnieBird
Would we put up with their owners idiosyncrasies if they spent £719 Million on players?
I think I would .
Yeah but you’re a ****
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RonnieBird
Would we put up with their owners idiosyncrasies if they spent £719 Million on players?
I think I would .
Glaziers leveraged the buyout against the club. Like someone buying your house and borrowing the cash from you to buy it.
Difference is we were effectively worthless (to a degree) where Man Utd have a value
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Irony being that Sky probably having a massive say of whether this game goes ahead or not
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J R Hartley
Yeah but you’re a ****
Thanks.
What’s needed is the match cancelled and the three points awarded to Liverpool and/ or a twelve point deduction from Manchester United next season.
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That should make you happy since it would hurt the owners as well as the idiots doing it and the game itself.
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RonnieBird
That should make you happy since it would hurt the owners as well as the idiots doing it and the game itself.
I don't see how the game being called off will affect the owners as it was a postponement and not a cancellation meaning TV money is secure.
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It's highly unlikely UK football can go down the 50+1 route because it would mean undoing so much of past three decades in football and fans accepting their clubs becoming less able to purchase best players from Europe for £100million plus.
While there are football fans desperate for game to improve ticket prices, representation for women's game, fair compensation for buying young players and not hoarding talent etc. there are also a huge number of fans who don't like the Super League but also don't like that their owners haven't spent as Man City and Chelsea have: seemingly never ending cheque-books and almost always leading to success.
There is also a detained Russian politician who has asked UK to impose sanctions on Roman Abramovich due to close ties to Putin's faux democracy government and yet Roman is one of the most popular owners in UK football. No conversation about the Super League, as far as I can tell, has included talk about how UK football is currently funded.
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valleys caveman
Game called off.
Funny. Good on them I was wondering when they would have a protest, is this there first home game since the greed fest?
Publicity and disruption was the aim....
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I thought the Man U fans would have been protesting about Pogba’s agent trying to get him £450k a week contract ?
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William Treseder
I thought the Man U fans would have been protesting about Pogba’s agent trying to get him £450k a week contract ?
Thats a fecking disgrace
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Vindec
I don't see how the game being called off will affect the owners as it was a postponement and not a cancellation meaning TV money is secure.
Well, we don’t know yet. Unless the Premier league want this to happen again they must act to punish the club, and a good start would be to award the points to Liverpool.
The club might be sued for loss of income by tv companies world wide and I hope by the poor buggers who’ve had their cars and property damaged or been assaulted during this incident.
If the club can’t provide security and safety for the general public then they shouldn’t be allowed to hold football games there. Possibly then , they should have to play all games next season behind closed doors in addition to a points deduction.
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RonnieBird
Would we put up with their owners idiosyncrasies if they spent £719 Million on players?
I think I would .
Of course we would , in our own small way we have succumb to a millionaire propping us up and allowing us to compete more effectively within our league, its just a lesser value than the UTD's of this world .
I've enjoyed his support that has allowed some success.
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Are the protests there so bad the game needed to be called off. ?
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Get up stand up - don't give up the fight.:ayatollah:
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Rebrand aside. Tan has done well for us.
Certainly not been a selling club, then again we haven’t had a player of any. note that any other club has wanted to buy
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Hilts
Are the protests there so bad the game needed to be called off. ?
Not from what I’ve seen.
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19bluebirds27
Rebrand aside. Tan has done well for us.
Certainly not been a selling club, then again we haven’t had a player of any. note that any other club has wanted to buy
Ken Zohore £8 million.
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Cleve van Leef
Ken Zohore £8 million.
Ah yes forgot about that one.
Don’t think anyone would have that down as a loss.
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RonnieBird
Well, we don’t know yet. Unless the Premier league want this to happen again they must act to punish the club, and a good start would be to award the points to Liverpool.
The club might be sued for loss of income by tv companies world wide and I hope by the poor buggers who’ve had their cars and property damaged or been assaulted during this incident.
If the club can’t provide security and safety for the general public then they shouldn’t be allowed to hold football games there. Possibly then , they should have to play all games next season behind closed doors in addition to a points deduction.
Arm chair Liverpool fan NQAT
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Not condoning the troublemaking minority, arseholes latch on to any type of protest and often get the bloody headlines ahead of the legitimate majority. But then again holding placards in silence saying ‘Down With This Sort Of Thing’ like that Father Ted episode won’t achieve anything.
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J R Hartley
Arm chair Liverpool fan NQAT
Wrong. I’m not interested in any of the money teams who buy success and I’m not generally fond of scousers either.
I just can’t accept that this criminal behaviour is justified in the name of football, and I don't want to see it become standard behaviour as stabbings, violence and public disorder did in the 1970’s.
That’s exactly what will happen if we accept dissatisfaction with owners as an excuse to turn cars over and attack passers by on the public streets.
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Cleve van Leef
Ken Zohore £8 million.
Still can’t believe it....almost a criminal offence but was cancelled out by Gary madine
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RonnieBird
Wrong. I’m not interested in any of the money teams who buy success and I’m not generally fond of scousers either.
I just can’t accept that this criminal behaviour is justified in the name of football, and I don't want to see it become standard behaviour as stabbings, violence and public disorder did in the 1970’s.
That’s exactly what will happen if we accept dissatisfaction with owners as an excuse to turn cars over and attack passers by on the public streets.
Somebody get Mister Hysterical some beta blockers.:biggrin:
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RonnieBird
That’s exactly what will happen if we accept dissatisfaction with owners as an excuse to turn cars over and attack passers by on the public streets.
Did this happen?
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4 years without a trophy no wonder they are protesting.