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And it's goodnight from me
After 20 years on this board (with a year off a few seasons ago), I've decided to call it a day.
I've loved being able to post random stats of all sorts, not that I've ever regarded myself as any sort of statto. Stats have interested me whether positive, negative, in between etc. Runs of form, goals scored, conceded, winless runs, winning runs, all fascinating. I've had opinions that others have hated!
This has been a home for me. I met the woman who would (regrettably for her I'm sure!) become my wife on here back in 2006. I love those who I've got to know through this board. Mike is a legend and a top bloke and I thank him for not barring me over the wasp joke!!
We have some great contributors to this board, particularly TOBW, whose blog is amazing and his level headedness has been so consistent over the years. If I've ever needed a snapshot of where we are as a club, TOBW has always been my go to. TLG, while we've had ferocious arguments on here at times, is a top bloke who hasn't deserved the vitriol he's had in recent years. This board is so much poorer without him. I might argue with Sludge, but he is a great bloke, funny and I'll never lose my respect for him and I thank him for introducing me to dogging.
What I cannot ignore is that this board feels very alien to me now. I chat to lots of City fans on various platforms. It's always light hearted, even if opinions differ. This board seems anything but that. I think it's telling that none of my close City fans post on here any more. Things are about being right, proving others wrong. I don't care for that level of sneering.
I'm sure there'll be lots telling me to piss off, which would only prove my point. This isn't a decision made on a Sunday after a beer. It's been many weeks in progress. Maybe it's just me getting old.
Nos da.
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Eric the Half a Bee
What I cannot ignore is that this board feels very alien to me now. I chat to lots of City fans on various platforms. It's always light hearted, even if opinions differ. This board seems anything but that. I think it's telling that none of my close City fans post on here any more. Things are about being right, proving others wrong. I don't care for that level of sneering
It sounds like you are describing Victor Meldrew syndrome.
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You bring a different opinion, and you can back up your view point as well, with some good football talk.
What we need less of is the sniping comments from people who seemingly struggle to accept that others have opinions which differ, but are equally valid.
I wont argue with a grown man if he's staying or going, but I think your balanced views will be missed.
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Originally Posted by
Eric the Half a Bee
After 20 years on this board (with a year off a few seasons ago), I've decided to call it a day.
I've loved being able to post random stats of all sorts, not that I've ever regarded myself as any sort of statto. Stats have interested me whether positive, negative, in between etc. Runs of form, goals scored, conceded, winless runs, winning runs, all fascinating. I've had opinions that others have hated!
This has been a home for me. I met the woman who would (regrettably for her I'm sure!) become my wife on here back in 2006. I love those who I've got to know through this board. Mike is a legend and a top bloke and I thank him for not barring me over the wasp joke!!
We have some great contributors to this board, particularly TOBW, whose blog is amazing and his level headedness has been so consistent over the years. If I've ever needed a snapshot of where we are as a club, TOBW has always been my go to. TLG, while we've had ferocious arguments on here at times, is a top bloke who hasn't deserved the vitriol he's had in recent years. This board is so much poorer without him. I might argue with Sludge, but he is a great bloke, funny and I'll never lose my respect for him and I thank him for introducing me to dogging.
What I cannot ignore is that this board feels very alien to me now. I chat to lots of City fans on various platforms. It's always light hearted, even if opinions differ. This board seems anything but that. I think it's telling that none of my close City fans post on here any more. Things are about being right, proving others wrong. I don't care for that level of sneering.
I'm sure there'll be lots telling me to piss off, which would only prove my point. This isn't a decision made on a Sunday after a beer. It's been many weeks in progress. Maybe it's just me getting old.
Nos da.
I remember there being bellends on here in 2004 or whenever it was.
I think the board still feels relevant.
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Originally Posted by
Divine Wright
I remember there being bellends on here in 2004 or whenever it was.
Yes, and I'm still here! :biggrin:
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Originally Posted by
Eric the Half a Bee
After 20 years on this board (with a year off a few seasons ago), I've decided to call it a day.
I've loved being able to post random stats of all sorts, not that I've ever regarded myself as any sort of statto. Stats have interested me whether positive, negative, in between etc. Runs of form, goals scored, conceded, winless runs, winning runs, all fascinating. I've had opinions that others have hated!
This has been a home for me. I met the woman who would (regrettably for her I'm sure!) become my wife on here back in 2006. I love those who I've got to know through this board. Mike is a legend and a top bloke and I thank him for not barring me over the wasp joke!!
We have some great contributors to this board, particularly TOBW, whose blog is amazing and his level headedness has been so consistent over the years. If I've ever needed a snapshot of where we are as a club, TOBW has always been my go to. TLG, while we've had ferocious arguments on here at times, is a top bloke who hasn't deserved the vitriol he's had in recent years. This board is so much poorer without him. I might argue with Sludge, but he is a great bloke, funny and I'll never lose my respect for him and I thank him for introducing me to dogging.
What I cannot ignore is that this board feels very alien to me now. I chat to lots of City fans on various platforms. It's always light hearted, even if opinions differ. This board seems anything but that. I think it's telling that none of my close City fans post on here any more. Things are about being right, proving others wrong. I don't care for that level of sneering.
I'm sure there'll be lots telling me to piss off, which would only prove my point. This isn't a decision made on a Sunday after a beer. It's been many weeks in progress. Maybe it's just me getting old.
Nos da.
you're a good man Eric, and a great poster, sadly I came to a similar crossroad as you a good while back regarding the general aura of this messageboard, for me it was a fun escape from the mundanity of everyday life, work stresses etc, it hasn't been fun on here for a while, on the contrary there is an awful lot of confrontation, backbiting and one-upmanship, and that's not for me at all.. all the very best Sir
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Originally Posted by
Eric the Half a Bee
After 20 years on this board (with a year off a few seasons ago), I've decided to call it a day.
I've loved being able to post random stats of all sorts, not that I've ever regarded myself as any sort of statto. Stats have interested me whether positive, negative, in between etc. Runs of form, goals scored, conceded, winless runs, winning runs, all fascinating. I've had opinions that others have hated!
This has been a home for me. I met the woman who would (regrettably for her I'm sure!) become my wife on here back in 2006. I love those who I've got to know through this board. Mike is a legend and a top bloke and I thank him for not barring me over the wasp joke!!
We have some great contributors to this board, particularly TOBW, whose blog is amazing and his level headedness has been so consistent over the years. If I've ever needed a snapshot of where we are as a club, TOBW has always been my go to. TLG, while we've had ferocious arguments on here at times, is a top bloke who hasn't deserved the vitriol he's had in recent years. This board is so much poorer without him. I might argue with Sludge, but he is a great bloke, funny and I'll never lose my respect for him and I thank him for introducing me to dogging.
What I cannot ignore is that this board feels very alien to me now. I chat to lots of City fans on various platforms. It's always light hearted, even if opinions differ. This board seems anything but that. I think it's telling that none of my close City fans post on here any more. Things are about being right, proving others wrong. I don't care for that level of sneering.
I'm sure there'll be lots telling me to piss off, which would only prove my point. This isn't a decision made on a Sunday after a beer. It's been many weeks in progress. Maybe it's just me getting old.
Nos da.
Sadly, your intended absence will tip the balance even more towards to the wind-up merchants and tiresome idiots. Sorry to see you go.
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Originally Posted by
Taunton Blue Genie
Sadly, your intended absence will tip the balance even more towards to the wind-up merchants and tiresome idiots. Sorry to see you go.
So anybody who doesn't agree with you is a wind-up merchant and a tiresome idiot? I think this is the reason why Eric is leaving!
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Don't be daft Eric
Have a cup of tea , put your feet up and give us a break down of goals from set pieces since Bulut took over
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Originally Posted by
Eric the Half a Bee
After 20 years on this board (with a year off a few seasons ago), I've decided to call it a day.
I've loved being able to post random stats of all sorts, not that I've ever regarded myself as any sort of statto. Stats have interested me whether positive, negative, in between etc. Runs of form, goals scored, conceded, winless runs, winning runs, all fascinating. I've had opinions that others have hated!
This has been a home for me. I met the woman who would (regrettably for her I'm sure!) become my wife on here back in 2006. I love those who I've got to know through this board. Mike is a legend and a top bloke and I thank him for not barring me over the wasp joke!!
We have some great contributors to this board, particularly TOBW, whose blog is amazing and his level headedness has been so consistent over the years. If I've ever needed a snapshot of where we are as a club, TOBW has always been my go to. TLG, while we've had ferocious arguments on here at times, is a top bloke who hasn't deserved the vitriol he's had in recent years. This board is so much poorer without him. I might argue with Sludge, but he is a great bloke, funny and I'll never lose my respect for him and I thank him for introducing me to dogging.
What I cannot ignore is that this board feels very alien to me now. I chat to lots of City fans on various platforms. It's always light hearted, even if opinions differ. This board seems anything but that. I think it's telling that none of my close City fans post on here any more. Things are about being right, proving others wrong. I don't care for that level of sneering.
I'm sure there'll be lots telling me to piss off, which would only prove my point. This isn't a decision made on a Sunday after a beer. It's been many weeks in progress. Maybe it's just me getting old.
Nos da.
First of all, thank you for the very kind words Eric, but, more importantly, I’m very sad to see you go as your opinions, which were a much needed counterpoint to some of the happy clappers, were valued very much by me and I hope others. Don’t ever doubt that you were right about recent months - Saturday will hopefully be a turning point as far as the type of football Cardiff City plays goes, a much needed and much appreciated one from my perspective because what we saw in recent home games in particular (eg Millwall, Birmingham,Leicester,Leeds, Preston and Blackburn) was so, so poor in terms of the tactical approach and entertainment value shown by the team.
Also, there is, of course, your stats much of which was delivered with a self mocking humour which I liked - as a statistical nerd, I invariably found them interesting, I’m sure there were those who felt differently, but I’d say that the responses you got said that there were plenty who felt the same way as myself - I’m sure I won’t be the only one who misses them.
You’ve made your decision so I’ll not try to change your mind, but what I will say is that if you ever do that and return you’ll be welcomed back warmly by more than you might expect because posters like you are not ten a penny.
All the best :thumbup:
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I’ve been feeling very much the same Eric.
I’ve thought about flouncing the most important (to me) web page that I have been using since I have had access to the internet.
It’s been a massive comfort blanket at times of mental crisis for me.
I don’t want to though and I won’t.
New Year, I thought about cutting back my reading, especially the alternative forum as because as good natured and earnest people’s intentions may be, it just ends up in the inevitable hard lines in the sand of total futility.
You shouldn’t let yourself be pushed off because people don’t agree with you, insult you or just wind you up.
It’s not a problem with this forum, but a problem with fellow humans not being able to communicate at the moment without being furious with each other.
The best and busiest forums out there have the same issues.
At some point I hope that we can get our sense of reasoning and decency back.
In the mean time, I hope you continue to post if I agree with you or not because an echo chamber is no good to anybody.
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Can't say that I was a stats man but so many were and appreciated the work behind them.
Tend to agree that the tone on here has deteriorated a bit but it would be a shame for you to go.
Maybe take a little break and come back when ready.
Fair to say that you will be missed.
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Wash DC Blue
You shouldn’t let yourself be pushed off because people don’t agree with you, insult you or just wind you up.
It’s not a problem with this forum, but a problem with fellow humans not being able to communicate at the moment without being furious with each other.
I find the ignore function works pretty well.
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I enjoy stats and love what you post on here, so for me its such a shame that you've decided to call it a day.
I also never realised that this place doubled up as a dating site - maybe that's why Sludge is still here.🙂
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Sorry to see you go as I've enjoyed your stats.
I have also noticed some decline in the behaviours of certain posters who can't resist personalised "jibes" at other posters rather than keeping it to the subject in hand.
Best ignored IMHO but sadly this is why these forums need moderators who can issue bans/suspensions.
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Don’t think it’s changed too much in 25 years, maybe society is just too broken these days and people feel it’s ok to voice their opinions or anger on here? Way too much political nonsense which is usually just confined to the other board, did think that was a good idea but maybe it just attracts the wrong so should be done away with? Shame to hear about TLG no longer posting anymore, some were always so keen to pick any old gripe with him. All the best Eric, if you don’t enjoy something in life just ditch it:thumbup:
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Sad to hear that Eric, you'll be missed.
I was one of the 'early adopters' when I joined the board way back when.
Now, I dip in and out and try not to get involved into too many arguments.
Maybe it's maturity or not giving a feck, but I now don't feel the need to respond to anyone who disagrees - I don't feel the need to try win an argument.
Maybe reconsider your relationship with the board rather than flouncing off :hehe::hehe::hehe::hehe:
Anyway, like everything, we all need to do what is best for ourselves and families.
Wishing you the best.
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Really sorry to hear this Eric. I agree this is a pretty toxic site a lot of the time. I spend more time now on the Colonel's forum where things are much more light hearted, as this was at one time. I think it's indicative of the problem that squabbles have already started on this thread ironically. You'll be missed.
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Good luck for the future, it is a shame your stats were good, strange timing just when the football and Bulut are coming good, won four on the bounce, and are moving up the table, top half finish and we've turned a corner on the last four or five terrible seasons.
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That’s a shame, I always enjoy the stats. I don’t always agree with what I would class as negativity but then I don’t need to, it would be pretty boring if everyone always agreed.
I’m surprised people have said how toxic it is here, having previously spent a lot of time on the other forum and recently more on X I think it’s quite mellow on here other than a couple of bully boy posters and the spelling police.
All the best.
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Taunton Blue Genie
Sadly, your intended absence will tip the balance even more towards to the wind-up merchants and tiresome idiots. Sorry to see you go.
You can say that again :thumbup:
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I'll be sorry to see you go Eric. I've enjoyed your statistics very much over the years. Don't let the keyboard warriors grind you down. We all know who they are, and wish it was them leaving the message board.
Enjoy your dogging with Sludgey :) Careful you don't go deaf listening to his choice of "music". Always played at ear splitting level of course, whilst you travel from car park to car park in his trusty Robin Reliant.
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That’s a real shame Eric. You will be missed.
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Will miss your stats mate, thanks for the effort & research you’ve done. :thumbup: If Klopp does reconsider and stay, perhaps missing out on the Anfield hot seat will make you reconsider.:thumbup:
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I think you are having a wobbly
You therefore need to sit down , have a cup of tea and get your act together
Time waits for no one sonny
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You are going to be missed for sure.
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You'll be missed Eric. I didn't often reply to your stats but I was always impressed by the level of effort and they'd always be something to think about.
I don't think some of the people on this board have aged well, hope you reconsider and ignore them. Remember it's them, not you.
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I enjoyed your stats too Eric.
I’ve been here from the beginning too, there’s always been wind up merchants , it’s attention seeking confrontation without any danger of actual contact but that seems to be prevalent across the internet on all sorts of platforms
Hope you change your mind
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Sorry to hear this. The board will be far less without you
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Originally Posted by
Eric the Half a Bee
After 20 years on this board (with a year off a few seasons ago), I've decided to call it a day.
I've loved being able to post random stats of all sorts, not that I've ever regarded myself as any sort of statto. Stats have interested me whether positive, negative, in between etc. Runs of form, goals scored, conceded, winless runs, winning runs, all fascinating. I've had opinions that others have hated!
This has been a home for me. I met the woman who would (regrettably for her I'm sure!) become my wife on here back in 2006. I love those who I've got to know through this board. Mike is a legend and a top bloke and I thank him for not barring me over the wasp joke!!
We have some great contributors to this board, particularly TOBW, whose blog is amazing and his level headedness has been so consistent over the years. If I've ever needed a snapshot of where we are as a club, TOBW has always been my go to. TLG, while we've had ferocious arguments on here at times, is a top bloke who hasn't deserved the vitriol he's had in recent years. This board is so much poorer without him. I might argue with Sludge, but he is a great bloke, funny and I'll never lose my respect for him and I thank him for introducing me to dogging.
What I cannot ignore is that this board feels very alien to me now. I chat to lots of City fans on various platforms. It's always light hearted, even if opinions differ. This board seems anything but that. I think it's telling that none of my close City fans post on here any more. Things are about being right, proving others wrong. I don't care for that level of sneering.
I'm sure there'll be lots telling me to piss off, which would only prove my point. This isn't a decision made on a Sunday after a beer. It's been many weeks in progress. Maybe it's just me getting old.
Nos da.
Ah come on Eric for f-uck’s sake. You need to be in it to win it. If you are gonna put out an opinion out there you are inviting debate, and it will be shot at.
Debate is open disagreement, not an echo chamber. Once you put it out there it is there to be shot at. Nothing personal. Win or Lose, by putting your opinion out there, you are starting debate and provoking thoughts and that itself is value.
Think of barristers, sporting opponents or City traders. I win, you lose. So what? That is the essence and cut and thrust of open conflict - which is war, sport, debate, business, financial markets and law. It is the nature if what we do.
If there is Left then there has to he Right. If there is dark, there has to be light. If there is right, then there has to be wrong. This is the Ying and Yang of life. Accept it. Don’t take it personally.
Even the best traders in the City only get 60-70% of decisions correct. As Barack Obama said, “I take 100 decisions a day. If I get 70 correct that’s a great day. As long as the 30 I get wrong are of small impact then that’s OK.” Or as Tony Blair said, “I can take most people with most of the time, but I will not take everyone with me all the time”. 100% consensus is nigh on impossible. The question is - can you handle the losses? Can you accept the discomfort of conflict and lack of consensus?
I doubt anyone hates people on here unless they are deranged, or cannot accept a difference of opinion. I love debate and happy to push people to the brink, but if I lose the argument I let it go and think “Fair play, they got me there.” I just love the cut and thrust of debate. I’d shake the hand and buy them a pint.
Barristers and sporting enemies are quite often seen drinking with each other after open warfare. They let it slide. It was just the natural exchange of physical and mental strength, to seek the truth. Nothing personal. Equally I would happily have a pint with my debating nemesis as well. It was just an opinion, that’s all.
So the best call you can make today? Admit you got this call wrong. It’s one of your 30% of poor decisions today. No shame admitting it. Laugh it off, come back and joust again. Live to fight another day 😉👍
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Originally Posted by
Eric the Half a Bee
After 20 years on this board (with a year off a few seasons ago), I've decided to call it a day.
I've loved being able to post random stats of all sorts, not that I've ever regarded myself as any sort of statto. Stats have interested me whether positive, negative, in between etc. Runs of form, goals scored, conceded, winless runs, winning runs, all fascinating. I've had opinions that others have hated!
This has been a home for me. I met the woman who would (regrettably for her I'm sure!) become my wife on here back in 2006. I love those who I've got to know through this board. Mike is a legend and a top bloke and I thank him for not barring me over the wasp joke!!
We have some great contributors to this board, particularly TOBW, whose blog is amazing and his level headedness has been so consistent over the years. If I've ever needed a snapshot of where we are as a club, TOBW has always been my go to. TLG, while we've had ferocious arguments on here at times, is a top bloke who hasn't deserved the vitriol he's had in recent years. This board is so much poorer without him. I might argue with Sludge, but he is a great bloke, funny and I'll never lose my respect for him and I thank him for introducing me to dogging.
What I cannot ignore is that this board feels very alien to me now. I chat to lots of City fans on various platforms. It's always light hearted, even if opinions differ. This board seems anything but that. I think it's telling that none of my close City fans post on here any more. Things are about being right, proving others wrong. I don't care for that level of sneering.
I'm sure there'll be lots telling me to piss off, which would only prove my point. This isn't a decision made on a Sunday after a beer. It's been many weeks in progress. Maybe it's just me getting old.
Nos da.
Sorry to read this.
You cite people as a reason you have decided not to post any more.
Could it be something else though?
Perhaps the tone in many of your posts has gotten to you as well as others?
After all, it must be energy sapping to put a negative spin on things
You are a prolific poster.
Just as people agree with your opinions you will get people who disagree with you. It is to be expected.
Although I attend this forum virtually every day, I often choose not to reply to much of what many people post, for various reasons.
Much of this season has been a struggle reading, never mind posting, and Saturday's win was such a huge buzz.
I chose to reply to your post right after the game which probably came across as gloating or a wind up.
I thought you made it all about you and said so.
You called me a knob, I called you a phoney.
Fair enough, we move on.
We have all witnessed 'vitriol'.
We've also witnessed stuff that has been misinterpreted a post, joke, bants, whooshing etc..
That's okay though in my opinion.
People have good days and bad.
You either enter into a conversation or you ignore it. Simples.
We also have moderators who deal with those who overstep the mark.
We'd all do well to remember that it's a messageboard not a court of law.
From a personal point of view, I don't aspire to becoming anyone's best mate by posting just as much as I don't particularly look to make an enemy of anyone.
As I said, you post a lot on here and, as well as stats, you voice your opinions. Some I concur with some I don't, some I reply to, some I don't.
There are plenty on here who I'm sure do and feel the same.
Why not have a few days off and re-evaluate?
If you decide not to then this place will be worse off.
You go with my best wishes :thumbup:
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Sorry to hear Eric but understandable and respect your decision. Having watched City as a school boy in the 60's it's a very different world we live in now and I certainly enjoyed the Toshack, Clark years. Times have changed and we're all older and hopefully wiser. There's some comfort in seeing fellow wrinkly Bluebirds around. Stay well, and be happy, cheers TIB.
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Taunton Blue Genie
Sadly, your intended absence will tip the balance even more towards to the wind-up merchants and tiresome idiots. Sorry to see you go.
Tiresome idiots who post different opinions to you ( which usually turn out to be true)
I thought the beauty of this forum was that fact that all opinions are subjective and welcome.
Have you considered knocking it on the head ?
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Goodnight Irene.You'll be back.It's a drug
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Originally Posted by
Keyser Soze
Debate is open disagreement, not an echo chamber. Once you put it out there it is there to be shot at. Nothing personal. Win or Lose, by putting your opinion out there, you are starting debate and provoking thoughts and that itself is value.
I wouldn't call what often goes on on here (or on much of the internet, of course) as debate. Supercilious, dismissive, you're-either-with-us-or-against-us, how-very-dare-you-criticise-Ray-McStay, overemotional rhetoric sometimes but not debate.
It's also kind of ironic that even though there are suggestions not to take it so seriously, many of the posters who have given up or post less were ones who - in the main - didn't take it too seriously. (What happened to Delmbox, for instance?). So, maybe it's not just about taking things too seriously.
And of course, we're mostly middle-aged or old men so heaven forfend we're going about things in the wrong way.
Anyway, all the best to Eric.
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Does this mean i move up a place in the rankings ? if so then i'm all for a lot of you leaving,
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I think Eric knows there’s a 79.14578% chance he’ll reverse this decision in the fullness of time.
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Always look out for your stats Eric. Also, I like to read the different opinions on here, and as you say (I think) there's no need for name calling and any type of abuse. We should all be able to agree to disagree. Hope you change your mind