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Where is that?
Fantastic to see.
Loved the comment that it’s a BobBanksy.
Fantastic.
Poor response from the club though - https://bricksmagazine.co.uk/2020/11...m-in-football/
"Unfortunately, this celebration of the city’s diversity and beauty was not well-received by all. According to Ismail, they were refused the official support of Cardiff City, who told me that they dismissed their project as encouraging ‘reverse racism’ – a damning representation of the normalisation of racism within football, and within the wider society.
Incredibly inspired by this campaign, I spoke further with Yusuf Ismail regarding his inspiration behind this project and their experience with the Cardiff City Football Club.
Prishita: Why was it important for you to have the involvement of the Cardiff City club? Could you tell me more about your experience with them?
Yusuf: I thought it important to involve the Cardiff City Football Club because I felt they could use their platform to reach out to People of Colour in Cardiff. The relationship between the Cardiff BIPoC communities and Cardiff City is non-existent; our hope was to use this project as a real turning point in community relations.
Early on in the project, we were invited by the club for a meeting to discuss our project with their Community Engagement Manager. We showed her some portraits, some campaign imagery and some short films that we had created for the project. Even though she said she loved the work, she seemed confused about the intent behind our project and was worried that if the club was seen to support such a project, it could run the risk of alienating their existing fan base. She stated that it could even be perceived as “reverse racism” if preferential treatment was shown to BIPoC communities – a statement that left us extremely confused and upset that someone would hold such views. It’s attitudes like these that highlight the importance of our work. If anyone feels that making a space more inclusive is a problem, then it’s clear that they are the problem!"
Total gobbledegook from the club in that reply.
Someone else is doing the work that the club should've been doing years ago, all they have to do is throw their weight behind it, yet the club is worried that it might offend little old 'White Bloke', Me! Absolutely incredible. Disgrace, and a lack of understanding, and a huge opportunity missed. Email the club and complain if you disagree with them, the more people that do it, the better. This is where fans and the trust should put pressure on. Shame them.
As you're almost certainly already aware Paul, my partner did a lot of work with representatives of various minority groups from the local community during her time as the Trust's community officer, as did other members of the Trust board. City gave her a few free tickets to distribute to them, but that was about it. The club's staff and officials weren't ever interested in actually doing anything constructive themselves. That was back in 2011, so it looks like very little has changed during the last decade.
There's a bit of a political edge to it, There's going to be, that's why racism exists. As usual, 'football' shits out because they don't want to upset things. Wear a T-shirt, rainbow laces etc, that's fine. Get fans involved, the community, speak to the people in directly effects, not some suit or someone on the pay roll and the club bottles it. Shithouses.
While I'm glad it's been fan lead, it's rubbish that the club can't see the worth in doing it. A marketing team would surely be interested in why such a diverse City has not successfully attracted fans from all sections of our community and want to rectify that.
Choosing not to boldly oppose racism is a political message in itself. I wonder if that's what the club wanted to go for?
As has been indicated by TLG the trust did loads of work to try and encourage the club to engage with the local community in the areas of Grangetown, Butetown and Riverside
The trust held an evening at the stadium which was hijacked by the club and instead of asking fans from the citys ethnic minorities present about involvement we were given a slide show on how great cardiff city were at engaging with the community
It was cobblers
At one point a fan from the docks of west Indian origin asked the club about real jobs for the local community at Cardiff City .......he , like most of those assembled meant office jobs , PR , administration , advertising, back room staff etc
The groundsman interrupted with the suggestion that there were lots of casual jobs in catering ......in other words , serving burgers
It was unbelievable , I spoke to the guy who raised the question after the presentation and I said I am sorry I don't know what to say 😐
After the event , which was very David Brent I spoke to a group of somali lads and they said all their mates love football but don't feel welcome at Cardiff City
And when you see and witness the backward ignorant attitude of the club towards inclusion you can see why
Cardiff City has on its doorstep a large black and Asian community . Unless things have changed the club is still ignoring them .
Cardiff City continuing their commitment to being utterly shit at any kind of marketing/fan engagement. It didn't surprise me that the club didn't get behind it, though the language did surprise me
The marketing at the club has been really shoddy for ages, its a big city with a large potential fanbase but they just don't seem interested in tapping into it. Bizarre.
I am afraid that the trust got loads of abuse for the community group from an element of our support
We were accused of doing more for the " ethnics" than the " normal " fans
It was stirred by a particular group well known to most of us
A large proportion of this group of fans were and are , unless they have changed or snuffed it , out and out racists
I really don't get the club at times, they just seem happy doing the bare minimum in pretty much every department. Cardiff and its surrounding areas has so many great communities and different identities as you pointed out. We've also got Welsh language communities popping up everywhere and our historical links with mining towns in the valleys. I don't see any of these reflected in the club at all, just an identikit stadium and platitudes
Cardiff City has a record of thinking people are just going to turn up and watch them . The PR department of Cardiff City seems to be stuck in time . And its approach to community involvement is a joke .
Swansea City , who I pray lose every game , are far more involved with the population of Swansea and the surrounding areas than us and have been for years .
Its unforgiveable really
I'm not surprised to hear any of that. What was it Sludge, 10 years ago? Things look like they haven't changed. Fans should Email the club and complain. I hope the press get hold of it as well. Cardiff has a proud history of fighting racism, and although far from perfect, is in a much healthier position (when it comes to inclusion) than plenty of other towns and cities. CCFC should be ashamed, and the person who used the words 'Reverse Racism' needs educating.
I feel the club needs to sort themselves out and get into the Grangetown and Butetown communities. Maybe get a few somali and asian on the pr side of things?
Email the club and remind them of the slogan ‘City As One’. All colours and creeds welcome as one, I’ve just dropped them one, let’s let them know our feelings:thumbup:
The bloke who asked the question was a youth worker from the docks and the people he represented were from that area . He asked the club what opportunities they would have in terms of employment. He meant and everyone knew he meant proper jobs with the football club such as admin , public relations , accounts , office work , IT
He was told by the groundsman there were catering jobs available
It was obvious the club were institutionally racist
The only black person I have ever seen working down at cardiff city is the fella who guards the manager
Yes , about ten years ago , maybe more
I had some interesting debates with certain fans well known to us who accused the trust of being politically correct
Which was of course complete bollocks
The aim of the community side of the trust was to make cardiff city a safe place for the local community to come
I had all sorts of oh Asians don't like football from the knuckleheads
When the truth was they love football but see Cardiff City as a white place
And thats overwhelmingly true
The response is so disappointing from the club - I'm ashamed.
I have a Bengali mate who wants me to take him to a game (he's a sofa Arsenal fan normally), but is worried about the lack of diversity amongst the fans. Little did I know that it would be the club whod appear to be less welcoming.
disagree sludge the cardiff city foundation has been active in the local communities going into schools talking about well being , racism etc pre covid all over south wales
I run a multi cultural football kids side for 10 years in Grange town and the club were very supportive in helping us
I will stand my ground here and say the club has been very active in that department
of course more can be done but lets not be too negative on the club when it comes to involving the local community they do reach out
Very few people from the black and Asian community at cardiff city over the years
CCFC has never done anything about it
We went down to the Grangetown Carnival with city flags , scarves etc and set up a stall , two years running . Kids of all backgrounds were interested in all the bluebirds stuff.
I reckon the trust in those two days did more to promote CCFC in the areas that border the ground than the club has ever done
Kids from these areas love football
It is also very odd that CCFC is not scouting these areas as there is football talent there
Rugby Union and Rugby League have benefitted greatly from players with roots in Grangetown, Butetown etc
CCFC ?
I refer you to the community event staged at the cardiff city stadium
It was an idea the trust, a group of volunteers , came up with
The club provided the venue and it turned into a public relations event for them to show everyone how they were teaching kids maths
It completely missed the point
The club have done bugger all in getting anyone to attend games, marketing has always been shit to an almost comical degree
I went to school in Fairwater, kids all from Caerau, Ely, Fairwater & Pentrebane. All loved football, nobody even thought about playing rugby, but the WRU were there every autumn dishing out tickets etc. Feck all off Cardiff City. The result? 2 people from my schoolyear are City fans. I'm sure its the same in every school in Cardiff.
Some clubs give out shirts to schoolkids to try and get the kids into the club. It goes a long way to giving the club some goodwill and (hopefully) extra fans, why can't we do that? Accrington Stanley did it so we could obviously afford to do it.
Hard to say really. Depends how many asian and black people apply for the jobs?. I work all over the uk and for some reason i'm very much the minority as most of my workmates are somali ,black and asian i wouldn't accuse my company which is partly owned by a black fella as being racist it's probably due to less white people applying for the jobs.
But i totaly agree what you said in the thread above that our club needs to look down the road at what swansea have been doing for years which is getting into local areas and possibly funding community projects and making these people feel welcome at our/their club.