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Hoilett to Middlesbrough?
A completely predictable rumour which we were bound to read at some time in the transfer window, but I wouldn't be surprised if there was something to it;-
https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/...ilett-18737863
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Re: Hoilett to Middlesbrough?
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the other bob wilson
I think I'd sell. Not getting any younger and probably one of Warnock's big earners.
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Keep him.
Junior is quality - football brain, good movement, can cross (unlike some of our wide players), scores some great goals (and scores consistently) and he can defend when needed.
He has been a bit hot and cold since the season re-started (seemed to run out of legs in a few second halves) but that may be because he was carrying a niggling injury.
Still only 30 with a year left on his contract (so not much value in selling). Who knows if he is a high earner or not - but unless the club can bring in someone younger and better - sadly the same for Gavin Whyte as well - we should stick with Junior.
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jon1959
Keep him.
Junior is quality - football brain, good movement, can cross (unlike some of our wide players), scores some great goals (and scores consistently) and he can defend when needed.
He has been a bit hot and cold since the season re-started (seemed to run out of legs in a few second halves) but that may be because he was carrying a niggling injury.
Still only 30 with a year left on his contract (so not much value in selling). Who knows if he is a high earner or not - but unless the club can bring in someone younger and better - sadly the same for Gavin Whyte as well - we should stick with Junior.
Agree. I cannot see Hoilett on big money. I think Warnock got him for free.
We do have a problem with consistency when it comes to wide players. Mendez Laing and Murphy blow hot and cold and Gavin Whyte seems to be surplus to requirements.
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He's one of the few players we have that can make something happen. If we can't replace him, we have to keep him.
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Need to try and keep him. He has a much better first touch than many of our other players, he keeps possession better than most of them too.
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Hoilett surprises me. He lacks real pace, looks knackered after halftime but scores the occasional cracker and beats people with mazy trickery. On a bad day he's terrible though. Is he a modern-day Willie Anderson?
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I've always felt that Neil Warnock was the only reason Junior Hoilett signed for us - after all, as a free agent, he could have come here weeks earlier if he was so minded, so, is it reasonable to believe that he will want to go to Middlesbrough if they show some interest in him? If it is and Hoilett wants to go, then I don't see much point in keeping him - maybe let him leave in a swap deal?
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Originally Posted by
the other bob wilson
I've always felt that Neil Warnock was the only reason Junior Hoilett signed for us - after all, as a free agent, he could have come here weeks earlier if he was so minded, so, is it reasonable to believe that he will want to go to Middlesbrough if they show some interest in him? If it is and Hoilett wants to go, then I don't see much point in keeping him - maybe let him leave in a swap deal?
What get RUDY back :hehe:
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jeepster
What get RUDY back :hehe:
I must admit I was trying to think of a candidate when I posted that message, but no one sprang imeadiately to mind! There was a time when I wouldn't have minded Gestede coming back, but not after the last three seasons or so.
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the other bob wilson
I must admit I was trying to think of a candidate when I posted that message, but no one sprang imeadiately to mind! There was a time when I wouldn't have minded Gestede coming back, but not after the last three seasons or so.
Me neither :thumbup:
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Saved us plenty with goals or moments of magic out of nothing. We don't have many who can do that.
Would love to keep him if he is happy to stay, but if Warnock came in for him and he wanted to go then there would be no point in standing in his way.
Has provided fantastic value.
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Rudy is out of contract anyway.
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Hoilett is one of our technically gifted players and as a poster pointed put still only 30 ,players like him and Albert who went back to Forest have a lot to offer I'd pick both before Murphy . I wonder if this is his agent doing some leg work for new contract discussion, I reckon he'd stay on a 3 year deal offer, with current wages ?
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DubaiDai
Agree. I cannot see Hoilett on big money. I think Warnock got him for free.
We do have a problem with consistency when it comes to wide players. Mendez Laing and Murphy blow hot and cold and Gavin Whyte seems to be surplus to requirements.
Hoilett signed a new contract in the summer of 2018. He is one of the highest-paid players at the club.
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Hoilett is easily our best wide player. Think would be a big mistake to get rid and would cost a fair bit to get someone in. He does struggle against certain defenders but overall is the quality of player who will get you promoted
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Hope that we manage to keep hold of Junior as he is easily the best wide player at the club. He can do a good defensive job also.
If we can't then I would want to see a damn good replacement as the others we have, perhaps with the exception of NML on his day) unfortunately aren't up to it.
Can't Warnock have Murphy instead?
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the other bob wilson
And we're being linked with Jamal Lowe again.
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Our best winger and one of our only players with any technical ability
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LeningradCowboy
And we're being linked with Jamal Lowe again.
I'd definitely take him as a replacement for Hoilett - be surprised if we went for both him and Moore mind.
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For all we know, this might be agent mischief - the player is in the last year of his contract and so they might be trying to coerce the club into extending.
Saying that, if he is a high earner, the club can get a fee for him and a reasonable replacement can be found, then why not let him move?
Every player has a price, particularly in these times and if the club can actually strengthen, then it could make sense.
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on his day hoilett is still quality, but 31 with 1 year left if we get an offer I would sell, and then go for Ronan Curtis from Portsmouth
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I suspect he's one of our bigger wages
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life on mars
Hoilett is one of our technically gifted players and as a poster pointed put still only 30 ,players like him and Albert who went back to Forest have a lot to offer I'd pick both before Murphy . I wonder if this is his agent doing some leg work for new contract discussion, I reckon he'd stay on a 3 year deal offer, with current wages ?
Adomah doesn't have a lot to offer these days, his best years are behind him.
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Originally Posted by
life on mars
Hoilett is one of our technically gifted players and as a poster pointed put still only 30 ,players like him and Albert who went back to Forest have a lot to offer I'd pick both before Murphy . I wonder if this is his agent doing some leg work for new contract discussion, I reckon he'd stay on a 3 year deal offer, with current wages ?
3 year deal on current wages?
thank Christ you're not in charge of the contracts!
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you don't see many wingers still playing into their 30s. wingers and attacking midfielders peak younger than any other position, followed by fullbacks.
The role is heavily skewed towards physical attributes, pace and energy getting up and down the pitch. sadly for most of us there's a noticible decline in these things as we get older. other positions are able to compensate with gained experience and are able to extend their careers, which is why you often see wingers converting to central midfielders or fullbacks as they get older.
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Rjk
3 year deal on current wages?
thank Christ you're not in charge of the contracts!
Bloody 'ell!
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DubaiDai
Agree. I cannot see Hoilett on big money. I think Warnock got him for free.
We do have a problem with consistency when it comes to wide players. Mendez Laing and Murphy blow hot and cold and Gavin Whyte seems to be surplus to requirements.
Probably the case at any club in the world to be fair.
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Originally Posted by
DubaiDai
Agree. I cannot see Hoilett on big money. I think Warnock got him for free.
We do have a problem with consistency when it comes to wide players. Mendez Laing and Murphy blow hot and cold and Gavin Whyte seems to be surplus to requirements.
Hoilett will be one of the top earners in my opinion, Mid twenties when he came, good pedigree and free agent-i believe he ran his contract down at QPR, a player doesn't do that unless they're confident of picking up a very good deal.
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free agent = tidy wages, what the club saves in a transfer fee they pay in wages
Rambo is a prime example of that
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Hoilett is a lovely player to watch when there are so many 'ornery' players around.
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MacAdder
Hope that we manage to keep hold of Junior as he is easily the best wide player at the club. He can do a good defensive job also.
If we can't then I would want to see a damn good replacement as the others we have, perhaps with the exception of NML on his day) unfortunately aren't up to it.
Can't Warnock have Murphy instead?
I'm doing a piece about our midfield this season. Surprisingly, the stats for our wide midfielders are not too dissimilar. I agree that Hoilett seems to be the player who can produce moments for us.
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Hoilett scores goals, nuff said!
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Hoilett gets goals and tracks back, yes has his off days but so do most wingers. Keep him, I doubt the fee we would get would be enough for a loan for an unproven player.