Wintle and Ralls

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16-01-22, 12:58
Nobody's Rep

Wintle and Ralls

Thought they played well together yesterday and an encouraging debut from Cody. Thought Ng did well having switched position as well
16-01-22, 13:04
delmbox

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I didn't see the game but I've heard wildly varying assessments of Ng's performance, from barely good enough for League 1 to ones like yours
16-01-22, 13:22
Dorcus

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Originally Posted by delmbox

I didn't see the game but I've heard wildly varying assessments of Ng's performance, from barely good enough for League 1 to ones like yours

He was good going forward yesterday but his defensive frailties concern me.
16-01-22, 13:43
bluebirds17

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Ng did well but everytime he got past his man he had to cut back onto his right to cross.
16-01-22, 13:55
Rjk

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Ng did well but everytime he got past his man he had to cut back onto his right to cross.

well that's not a big surprise
16-01-22, 14:24
tforturton

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Both Wintle and Ralls played fairly well, but without either of them setting the world on fire. They did their jobs - that's about all. Wintle is a defensive midfielder, and he did a good job shielding his back three. Interestingly the only goal came early in the game, perhaps when Wintle was still finding his feet?
As for Drameh and Ng - well, I think it speaks volumes that Isaak Davies came on for ten minutes, and provided more crosses into the box in that time, than Drameh and Ng did for the whole game. Yes, it's early days for both - Drameh just arrived, and Ng has swapped sides - but I expected better from both.
16-01-22, 15:41
City123

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Ralls and Wintle are a solid enough midfield and need a creative player alongside them - pointless playing Vaulks alongside them
16-01-22, 15:42
the other bob wilson

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Thought Ng had his best game for a few weeks and Wintle and Ralls did well if you measure them by what are realistic standards for them - get someone with more creativity to play alongside them and we have the beginnings of a midfield good enough to get by week after week in this league.
16-01-22, 16:19
life on mars

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Originally Posted by City123

Ralls and Wintle are a solid enough midfield and need a creative player alongside them - pointless playing Vaulks alongside them

Colwill then ?
16-01-22, 16:26
J R Hartley

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Ng started well but got less of a threat as the game wore on I thought. Saw a lot of the ball but was very wasteful 2nd half.
16-01-22, 17:07
PontBlue

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I don't have any issue with them starting. However we need three attack minded players playing ahead of them. We had three similar typed in central midfield yesterday plus three centre backs. No wonder we rarely threaten from open play. Most teams have three or four attackers in the side so it's no wonder we struggle.

We are a defensive side who can't defend
16-01-22, 17:31
NYCBlue

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Originally Posted by delmbox

I didn't see the game but I've heard wildly varying assessments of Ng's performance, from barely good enough for League 1 to ones like yours

Ng was fine. He made a couple of mistakes, but he showed endeavor. He's not Trent Alexander Arnold. That's why he plays for Cardiff.
16-01-22, 17:58
City123

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Originally Posted by life on mars

Colwill then ?

Yes. If we are to persist with this formation then something like:

Smithies

Drameh McGuinness Flint Nelson Ng

Colwill Wintle Ralls

Davies Harris
16-01-22, 18:03
Rjk

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Originally Posted by City123

Yes. If we are to persist with this formation then something like:

Smithies

Drameh McGuinness Flint Nelson Ng

Colwill Wintle Ralls

Davies Harris

yes I think that's how we will line up against the weaker teams, although Moore or Collins nwill probably be in
16-01-22, 18:08
G rangetown Blue

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I thought NG played well yesterday , but at the end gave the ball away a few times, (probably through tiredness), which was a little frustrating.
16-01-22, 18:09
Dorcus

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yes I think that's how we will line up against the weaker teams, although Moore or Collins nwill probably be in

And stronger teams too? It would be good to keep a settled 11.
16-01-22, 18:41
dandywarhol

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Thats got to be a joke.Davies is learning the game and as far as I'm concerned the jury is out on Harris.
16-01-22, 18:52
City123

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Thats got to be a joke.Davies is learning the game and as far as I'm concerned the jury is out on Harris.

Why does that matter? He's proven himself to be effective in the Championship already and will only get better.

Collins is bang average, has only ever been bang average and will never be any better than bang average.
16-01-22, 18:52
City123

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Originally Posted by Rjk

yes I think that's how we will line up against the weaker teams, although Moore or Collins nwill probably be in

I'll be honest I've just assumed Moore will be gone at some point
16-01-22, 22:21
The Lone Gunman

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Originally Posted by City123

He's proven himself to be effective in the Championship already and will only get better.

That’s not necessarily true, is it? Some young players start brightly when given first team football, but then disappear without a trace.

I think it will pay for everyone to be realistic about this batch of youngsters. Some will probably make the grade at this level, some almost certainly won’t. At the moment it’s anyone’s guess as regards which of them will fit into what category.
17-01-22, 09:19
Mr Soul '68

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Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman

That’s not necessarily true, is it? Some young players start brightly when given first team football, but then disappear without a trace.

I think it will pay for everyone to be realistic about this batch of youngsters. Some will probably make the grade at this level, some almost certainly won’t. At the moment it’s anyone’s guess as regards which of them will fit into what category.

Very, very true. I remember as a kid Nigel Rees being bigged up as a the next big thing after he crossed the ball for THAT goal from Clarky v Real Madrid.

Just after, there was Tony Villars who was going to be a City legend after scoring the goal that kept us in the old 2nd Division v Crystal Palace. He went on to play all matches in that summers home internationals including (if I remember rightly and not just through rose tinted spectacles) a very good good game against England.

Neither really made it in footballing terms as it was all downhill Villars after that. I'm sure Rees let us to join Bridgend Town a season or two after that Real Madrid game?
17-01-22, 10:57
the other bob wilson

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Originally Posted by PontBlue

I don't have any issue with them starting. However we need three attack minded players playing ahead of them. We had three similar typed in central midfield yesterday plus three centre backs. No wonder we rarely threaten from open play. Most teams have three or four attackers in the side so it's no wonder we struggle.

We are a defensive side who can't defend

Exactly right. We often had three attack minded players in the early days of Morison's time in charge which I'd say is pretty normal, but it's been down to two in recent games - all this is a team which needs to score at least two to win!
17-01-22, 11:01
Undercoverinwurzelland

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Originally Posted by City123

Yes. If we are to persist with this formation then something like:

Smithies

Drameh McGuinness Flint Nelson Ng

Colwill Wintle Ralls

Davies Harris

I'd start with that on Saturday, assuming Moore's still out, with Colwill just in front of Wintle and Ralls.
17-01-22, 11:04
Sloop_Jon_Bee

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Originally Posted by the other bob wilson

Thought Ng had his best game for a few weeks and Wintle and Ralls did well if you measure them by what are realistic standards for them - get someone with more creativity to play alongside them and we have the beginnings of a midfield good enough to get by week after week in this league.

I was hoping Sang was going to play there or come on for vaulks, but he went for the donkey Pack. If we were 1 up i might have forgiven it Paul, but bringing Pack on when 1 down and leaving Sang on bench was criminal IMO. Can't wait for Bowen to get fit, think he could be that creativity we are missing. I reckon if he kept Harris on and took collins off and brought on sang instead of Pack we may have got a point. If we are to avoid relegation we have to retire Pack and Vaulks from starting 11.
Spedger
17-01-22, 11:10
Sloop_Jon_Bee

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Originally Posted by the other bob wilson

Thought Ng had his best game for a few weeks and Wintle and Ralls did well if you measure them by what are realistic standards for them - get someone with more creativity to play alongside them and we have the beginnings of a midfield good enough to get by week after week in this league.

I was hoping Sang was going to play there or come on for vaulks, but he went for the donkey Pack. If we were 1 up i might have forgiven it Paul, but bringing Pack on when 1 down and leaving Sang on bench was criminal IMO. Can't wait for Bowen to get fit, think he could be that creativity we are missing. I reckon if he kept Harris on and took collins off and brought on sang instead of Pack we may have got a point. If we are to avoid relegation we have to retire Pack and Vaulks from starting 11.
Spedger
17-01-22, 11:19
life on mars

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Originally Posted by City123

Why does that matter? He's proven himself to be effective in the Championship already and will only get better.

Collins is bang average, has only ever been bang average and will never be any better than bang average.

its a pity about the Moore situation as he is a bang decent Championship striker not a Premiership one though
17-01-22, 11:22
Nobody's Rep

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Originally Posted by Undercoverinwurzelland

I'd start with that on Saturday, assuming Moore's still out, with Colwill just in front of Wintle and Ralls.

Agreed
17-01-22, 11:23
Nobody's Rep

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Originally Posted by Sloop_Jon_Bee

I was hoping Sang was going to play there or come on for vaulks, but he went for the donkey Pack. If we were 1 up i might have forgiven it Paul, but bringing Pack on when 1 down and leaving Sang on bench was criminal IMO. Can't wait for Bowen to get fit, think he could be that creativity we are missing. I reckon if he kept Harris on and took collins off and brought on sang instead of Pack we may have got a point. If we are to avoid relegation we have to retire Pack and Vaulks from starting 11.
Spedger

Agreed
17-01-22, 12:37
life on mars

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Originally Posted by Nobody's Rep

Agreed

Lets do It , I'll ring one R Morison up now
17-01-22, 12:39
Dorcus

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Ravel?

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