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Listening to the latest overlap fan debate podcast with them discussing the biggest traitor move in football.
Eg sol Campbell spurs to arsenal on a free. Tevez man u to man City. Michael owen playing for man u as a Liverpool fan and legend.
What nominations would you give re cardiff? I'm actually struggling to think!
Hard to think of any really.
Years ago it was commonplace for several players to have stints at Cardiff, Swansea and Newport and can't recall any being called traitors. If anything, we've been the club players have moved to, with Andy Legg, Jason Bowen and Alan Curtis springing to mind. More recently we've had a few coming to us from over the Severn, but don't think they're referred to as traitors.
Bothroyd for playing in an England shirt.
The only one I can really think of was the full back who tweeted he wanted England to beat wales in the 2016 euros, hardly that traitorous as he was English but he did receive dogs abuse for it.
Very two faced really because we always expect the Welsh boys playing in England to be patriotic!!
Might have been Scott Malone but not totally sure
Why is that traitorous? He didn't qualify for Wales and was never going to turn down that chance. Having a city play get capped for them was more of an honour then a let down surely?Quote:
Originally Posted by lardy
John Toshack.
Ben Cabango
What cardiff players have then gone on to play for swansea? Tony Bird is only one I can think of off top of my head. And Kevin nugent of course. All the others had already played for swansea by time they came to cardiff?
I wonder if swansea just wouldn't sign any players who had played at cardiff or more likely ours have been too poor so they haven't wanted them.
Christian Roberts at Bristol when they were our biggest rivals was a big issue considering the games we had against them and him being a cardiff boy but in fairness the way he didn't celebrate probably made everyone realise it was just a job and he wished he had been wearing blue and up front with earnie but was kicked out.
Leggy to us.Quote:
Originally Posted by Father Dougal
Supposed Cardiff City legend Robin Friday begging Reading manager Charlie Hurley to take him back in the first few weeks after we signed him.
The Swansea academy is so far ahead of ours it’s embarrassing
There are some Cardiff kids at the jacks that will be making their debuts over the next couple of years, and it pains me to see it but good for them, just shows us up for being a bit crap
Christian never wanted to leave us. He's a Cardiff boy through and through. He's have also had his head kicked in at The Carpenters Arms in Rumney if he'd celebrated :hehe: Jimmy Gilligan celebrated loads when he went to wansea after scoring against us in the FA cup, although that was via Pompey, and he was a big nosed **** anyway. Paul Wheeler went nuts when he scored for Hereford against us, although it was Paul Wheeler, so i couldn't really get angry.Quote:
Originally Posted by Father Dougal
I actually like it when a player joins a rival and celebrates like a good un' It's one in the eye for the absolute clown football supporters who actually believe that footballers give a flying f uck about the fans. It's pantomime, and if you're a grown arsed adult who gets upset by that kind of thing then you (not you) need some real problems in your life :hehe: :thumbup:
Wilf Zaha effectively refusing to play for us vs palace, even though he was on the field in a blue shirt.
Other than Zaha who lacked professionalism it would probably be dual qualified players who came through Wales age grade teams only to defect to play for other countries
Marcus Bent
Routledge
You mean the bloke that offered to come back to us first and we said no?Quote:
Originally Posted by Taffy Blue in Berkshire
David Cotterill
Another one who we never wanted, didn't even look at him properly when he was a kid, and he's an Ely boy. We were never in for him and he wanted to come home. Don't blame him one bit.Quote:
Originally Posted by BlueArmy 86
Astonishing cotterill and cabango have been mentioned. Cardiff boys yes but if the city don't want them what are they supposed to do?
Mark Harris and Adam Matthews might as well get mentioned.Quote:
Originally Posted by Father Dougal
Jazz Richards is probably a comedy villain. I was at St Andrews when he refused to do the ayatollah. He wasn’t bad after that, granted he wasn’t great either
prolly because the moment Bothroyd put on a england shirt he stopped bothering for us (saving himself from injury) and waited for a PL club to approach him..Quote:
Originally Posted by fugsyphil
I remember willing him to score, although with no great fervour and it was only a friendly. But even so, I nominate myself.Quote:
Originally Posted by lardy
If you're a traitor for celebrating a goal against a former club then we'd have to call out... Carl Dale.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tuerto
Jazz isn't a bad shout but yes more of a comedy villain especially how his career sadly completely bombed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pedro de la Rosa
Oh yes. Our club's history of doing the wrong thing goes back a long, long time..Quote:
Originally Posted by Pedro de la Rosa
Quite a few managers have left Cardiff to manage Swansea, and a few have left Swansea to manage Cardiff Cardiff born Terry Yorath left Swansea and later managed Cardiff for one
Kieffer Moore
Not Cardiff but I always thought Dennis Law's back heel for Man City against Man Utd must have felt like hell for him (although he was with Man City before he joined Man U earlier in his career he was always synonymous with United) https://youtu.be/e8HQhV3ujyg?feature=sharedQuote:
Originally Posted by Father Dougal
This!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Taffy Blue in Berkshire
I said Bothroyd as a joke...Quote:
Originally Posted by fugsyphil
...but having read this, it's convincing me that perhaps he was a traitor :hehe:Quote:
Originally Posted by Blooburd
I liked Bothroyd and consider him as having one of the best techniques of any City player I've seen. He could hit a ball maybe even sweeter than Whitts. I was really proud that we had a player in an England shirt, even though it probably says more about the state of them at the time, having to go to the Championship for a never particularly prolific striker.