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Wolves after Kieffer Moore?
https://www.footballinsider247.com/s...ty-star-moore/
Wolves are lining up a bid for Cardiff City striker Kieffer Moore, Football Insider has learned.
The Premier League club are in the market for a centre-forward in the final week of the window.
A Wolves source has told Football Insider the club are ready to submit an offer of around £7million for Moore.
Cardiff are opening to selling the 29-year-old as they look to raise much-needed cash.
A £2million signing from Wigan Athletic in August 2020, Moore has two years remaining on his contract in the Welsh capital.
If this is true, it is not enough!
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No it wouldn't be but then I'm not the one that's looking after our accounts.
We could and should be able to get more, more, more.
I'm expecting more interest as the deadline approaches.
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I hope we do not sell if we are serious about challenging for top 6!
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That website is about as credible as the Daily Sport
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I’d be surprised if this was true - £7m seems a lot for a 29 year old with one decent season at championship level.
Although I suspect his agent will be trying to get a move. Given his chequered career a 3 year contract at a premier league club would be life changing.
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Grangenders
I’d be surprised if this was true - £7m seems a lot for a 29 year old with one decent season at championship level.
Although I suspect his agent will be trying to get a move. Given his chequered career a 3 year contract at a premier league club would be life changing.
Let's all be perfectly Frank... If the club are offered 7million for Moore, hopefully with some add ons, they will be driving Moore to Wolverhampton themselves.
That means, I would imagine, that city would spend a small portion of the fee on Kyle Hudlin.
Or stick with Collins, Harris and Vassell.
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If he goes we probably won't replace him, we'll just stick Flint up front.
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Toadstool
Swap for Giles?
Club needs the money, I imagine. If it is true, we'll struggle to say no as he'll definitely want to go. Not for 7m though, that's laughable and frankly an insult.
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Undercoverinwurzelland
If he goes we probably won't replace him, we'll just stick Flint up front.
Championship goal scoring record is about to get blown out the water in that case :hehe:
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jon1959
https://www.footballinsider247.com/s...ty-star-moore/
Wolves are lining up a bid for Cardiff City striker Kieffer Moore, Football Insider has learned.
The Premier League club are in the market for a centre-forward in the final week of the window.
A Wolves source has told Football Insider the club are ready to submit an offer of around £7million for Moore.
Cardiff are opening to selling the 29-year-old as they look to raise much-needed cash.
A £2million signing from Wigan Athletic in August 2020, Moore has two years remaining on his contract in the Welsh capital.
If this is true, it is not enough!
Double that fee or offer Giles as part of the deal and I think I’d sell him because you have to take into account his age. On the other hand, we’re talking about a striker who scored twenty Championship goals last season and you only need to see how much players who have done that in the past go for to realise £15 million is pretty cheap.
Also, Keiffer Moore is a lot more than a striker with one good season behind him as has been claimed in this thread - he’s a late starter who has improved at a dramatic rate in recent seasons and, unlike some twenty nine year olds, there’s probably scope for further improvement with him.
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Shame he’s smashed around the lower leagues so long.
Worth £7m all day if he was a few years younger.
A few years ago we used to see £7m for half a Jordan Rhodes or McCormack who were both half the player but in this current market clubs have got to get their valuations spot on
Now shiquiri has gone for £9m
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We are mugs if we sell him for £7 million.
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Pedro de la Rosa
Club needs the money, I imagine. If it is true, we'll struggle to say no as he'll definitely want to go. Not for 7m though, that's laughable and frankly an insult.
I wonder if his contract with us has a release clause. I know it is a buyer's market at the moment, but selling him for less than we got for Zohore would be hard to take.
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Originally Posted by
jon1959
https://www.footballinsider247.com/s...ty-star-moore/
Wolves are lining up a bid for Cardiff City striker Kieffer Moore, Football Insider has learned.
The Premier League club are in the market for a centre-forward in the final week of the window.
A Wolves source has told Football Insider the club are ready to submit an offer of around £7million for Moore.
Cardiff are opening to selling the 29-year-old as they look to raise much-needed cash.
A £2million signing from Wigan Athletic in August 2020, Moore has two years remaining on his contract in the Welsh capital.
If this is true, it is not enough!
Why would Wolves want Keiffer Moore ? He isn't Portuguese for a start ! He would hardly fit into their style of play either.
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I suppose it all comes down to how much we need the money to plug the hole left by parachute payments, taking into account the potential future income from keeping him.
take this season - say from this point we have an 8% chance of promotion if we keep Moore, and a 3% chance if we sell him.
if promotion is worth 200m then there's £10m value straight off the bat.
then you have to consider relegation - say a 2% chance with and 4% without (or add your own numbers) and the lost revenue estimating at £20m (no idea really) and you can probably add another million.
then factor in some additional value for next season, effect on ticket sales etc and ,£12-15 million seems reasonable
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7 million? Please tell them to **** off.
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Doucas
We are mugs if we sell him for £7 million.
What if he wants to leave? transfermarkt value him at £4.5m, for what it's worth.
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Rjk
I suppose it all comes down to how much we need the money to plug the hole left by parachute payments, taking into account the potential future income from keeping him.
take this season - say from this point we have an 8% chance of promotion if we keep Moore, and a 3% chance if we sell him.
if promotion is worth 200m then there's £10m value straight off the bat.
then you have to consider relegation - say a 2% chance with and 4% without (or add your own numbers) and the lost revenue estimating at £20m (no idea really) and you can probably add another million.
then factor in some additional value for next season, effect on ticket sales etc and ,£12-15 million seems reasonable
I'd say there's less than a 1% chance we'd go down, especially after our start. A hell of lot has to go wrong now.
Re Moore, Armstrong went for nearly 20. He's got a year left. Granted, he's 24 but he's out of contract in 12 months. Surridge just went to Stoke for 5.5m! We should be asking for an awful lot.
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It's about time we kept the Wolves from the door😄
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Pedro de la Rosa
I'd say there's less than a 1% chance we'd go down, especially after our start. A hell of lot has to go wrong now.
Re Moore, Armstrong went for nearly 20. He's got a year left. Granted, he's 24 but he's out of contract in 12 months. Surridge just went to Stoke for 5.5m! We should be asking for an awful lot.
I don't think we would get as much as they got for Armstrong, he has age on his side and has always had very good underlying stats (shot volume etc) it's a surprise that Newcastle let him go for so little when they did.
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We shouldn't accept less than £15m. Or a deal that involves Giles.
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LeningradCowboy
What if he wants to leave? transfermarkt value him at £4.5m, for what it's worth.
I'll make a website right now and on it I will value him at £45m.
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Rjk
I don't think we would get as much as they got for Armstrong, he has age on his side and has always had very good underlying stats (shot volume etc) it's a surprise that Newcastle let him go for so little when they did.
Why do you rate shot volume which was always going to be boosted by i) his pace and ii) playing with Harvey Elliot? Armstrong's shot accuracy last year was lower than you'd want from a central premier league striker which is probably why only club willing to spend money plays a front two.
Moore's shot accuracy also lower than desired and needs to be worked on. His shot accuracy when more likely to play as central striker combined with his age and it being first time in premier league is probably why he won't go for as much.
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surge
Why do you rate shot volume? Armstrong's shot accuracy last year was lower than you'd want from a central premier league striker which is probably why only club willing to spend money plays a front two.
Moore's shot accuracy also lower than desired and needs to be worked on. His shot accuracy when more likely to play as central striker combined with his age and it being first time in premier league is probably why he won't go for as much.
Shot volume seems to be more favoured by the stats boffins.
I think that younger players who generate a lot of shots are more likely to have future good performance than players who have relatively few shots but are on a hot finishing streak
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I've seen another website valuing him at £45 million that's nuts
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Rjk
I don't think we would get as much as they got for Armstrong, he has age on his side and has always had very good underlying stats (shot volume etc) it's a surprise that Newcastle let him go for so little when they did.
Armstrong is a right greedy bastard, that’s why he looks good on stats. Moore has absolutely bossed people like Skrinar for Wales, and is on an upward trajectory. We should be looking at 15m, minimum.
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Rjk
Shot volume seems to be more favoured by the stats boffins.
I think that younger players who generate a lot of shots are more likely to have future good performance than players who have relatively few shots but are on a hot finishing streak
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Of all the players to attempt 50 or more shots in the Premier League last season, only Son Heung-Min and Ilkay Gundogan had a better shot conversion rate than Danny Ings’ 21.1 per cent.
Watkins clearly had an incredibly successful first season in the Premier League, but the key to that success lay in the volume of shots he took rather than their quality. Only four Premier League players had more shots than Watkins last season. Ings, meanwhile, had 57, roughly half Watkins’ total. He did play in 29 matches compared to Watkins’ 37, but it still demonstrates a pattern: Watkins took lots of shots to get his 14 goals; Ings took more of his chances to get his 12.
https://inews.co.uk/sport/football/p...ntford-1162610
While we'll never know for sure it seems doubtful that Watkins would have scored as many last season if playing for Southampton, rather than in front of Grealish, but now we basically have a Watkins type playing for Southampton we might get some idea.
To an extent, surely number of shots will just reflect number of chances created by team they're playing in? Of course striker can create their own chances too and good movement increases number of chances created by team-mates. But if stats boffins aren't digging deeper then it's just bad information.
I agree Armstrong will probably be valued higher than Moore by the buying market (especially as more Premier League sides now play with two up front) and price will come down to how much we need to sell.
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LeningradCowboy
What if he wants to leave? transfermarkt value him at £4.5m, for what it's worth.
Marlon Pack, a player who is 30, who we bought for £500k and let's be honest before this season wasn't setting the world on fire is worth £2.5m according to that website.
Volunteers put in the transfer values on there apparently, it's like saying 'he's worth £4.5m on football manager'.
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Doucas
Marlon Pack, a player who is 30, who we bought for £500k and let's be honest before this season wasn't setting the world on fire is worth £2.5m according to that website.
Volunteers put in the transfer values on there apparently, it's like saying 'he's worth £4.5m on football manager'.
how much is he worth on football manager?
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Rjk
how much is he worth on football manager?
£4.0 :hehe:
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Rjk
how much is he worth on football manager?
It's blank cheque territory.
He's just won Ballon D'or.
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You're saying this isn't true? :cry:
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Eric the Half a Bee
what was he expecting, going out dressed like that? :hide:
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Rjk
what was he expecting, going out dressed like that? :hide:
Asking for trouble NQAT.
I'm half expecting someone wearing our new away kit to be rogered by a flamingo.
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life on mars
I've seen another website valuing him at £45 million that's nuts
Flint or Moore?
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£10m to a team that plays one striker and has Jiminez and Fabio Silva ahead of him
A club that does it's transfer business through Jorge Mendes and only sign players such as Carlos Kickaballez.
A club that signed a player from Barcelona are now shopping at Cardiff for a third choice striker?
Don't get me wrong £10m and he's off and good luck to him but if it happens I'd be astonished. Their fans are delusional now thinking they are champions League viable (just like Leeds) and Moore who would no doubt offer them quite a lot would be welcomed like a cheap cast off when they are expecting somebody like Richarlison or his like.
Can't see it myself