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Bulut's book of excuses
sorry but the spotlight is right on him and rather than p1ss and moan and blame the ref, the clock, the wind, the rain and so on b1oody well do something about it.
if not Bulut should get the bullet. So has he written Dec off until he can go shopping? What the hell is he going to buy?
can't understand why people blow smoke up this guy.
enough is enough.
Turkish delight is very bitter right now!
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He's done a great job to turn us from relegation certainties yet again to mid table and possibly better
I think he's made a big mistake with the keeper and needs to change that situation
He's been stung by the Ramsey injury but what's hampering us is inability of the front line to take chances and the midfield and wide players to provide those chances
I have no faith in any of our forwards and players like bowler , colwill etc need to start showing up when given the chance
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SLUDGE FACTORY
He's done a great job to turn us from relegation certainties yet again to mid table and possibly better
I think he's made a big mistake with the keeper and needs to change that situation
He's been stung by the Ramsey injury but what's hampering us is inability of the front line to take chances and the midfield and wide players to provide those chances
I have no faith in any of our forwards and players like bowler , colwill etc need to start showing up when given the chance
How many chances have you seen our front line miss lately Sludge? Hardly any is my answer, we don’t create the scoring opportunities for them to miss.
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the other bob wilson
How many chances have you seen our front line miss lately Sludge? Hardly any is my answer, we don’t create the scoring opportunities for them to miss.
Decent strikers show for the ball , ours just ain't good enough
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SLUDGE FACTORY
Decent strikers show for the ball , ours just ain't good enough
What does this even mean
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WJ99mobile
What does this even mean
Movement , wanting the ball , running channels etc
Our forward line is far too slow and when we havnt got the ball are standing still
We have missed enough chances for a opinion that they are not up to the task to be valid
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SLUDGE FACTORY
Movement , wanting the ball , running channels etc
Our forward line is far too slow and when we havnt got the ball are standing still
We have missed enough chances for a opinion that they are not up to the task to be valid
Yep totally agree. There were so many times when we were in possession that players were still still with an opponent between them and a potential pass. MOVE! Make a run, make yourself available. Colwill was doing it or coming deep to get it but it's no good just one player doing it. I also think we're lacking a natural leader on pitch particularly looking at last nights line up.
It's not all doom and gloom though. I think with Rambo and Ralls we win last night and add to that hopefully a new striker in January we don't look too bad.
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PhyllisStant
Yep totally agree. There were so many times when we were in possession that players were still still with an opponent between them and a potential pass. MOVE! Make a run, make yourself available. Colwill was doing it or coming deep to get it but it's no good just one player doing it. I also think we're lacking a natural leader on pitch particularly looking at last nights line up.
It's not all doom and gloom though. I think with Rambo and Ralls we win last night and add to that hopefully a new striker in January we don't look too bad.
Yep , a few tweaks and we are a capable team at this level
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He's done a great job and I think it's evidenced in the turnaround based on last year. I do think he's struggling to get a tune out of players who are either overplayed because of lack of quality alternatives (NG,Siopis,Goutas) and the fact that there's still a legacy there of lads who just aren't good enough and know they'll be off in Jan or May.
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the other bob wilson
How many chances have you seen our front line miss lately Sludge? Hardly any is my answer, we don’t create the scoring opportunities for them to miss.
Last night (Especially during the 1st half) Colwill made some fantastic runs across the line, just advanced of Wintle and siopis, really intelligent and hard working runs, he also peeled off his man on a few occasions putting himself in space. He didn't receive the ball once. Siopis and wintle were either too slow of thought to play him in or just didn't fancy taking on the pass, probably a bit of both. Instead, they 'Started again' allowing Brum to get back in wnen Colwills run had them stretched. It really pissed me off, and if i was Colwill then i wouldn't have been happy because he's done everything possible, and he's worked that opening.
The problem we have is that with siopis and Wintle, and to a lesser degree, Ralls, we don't have speed of thought, that's why they're championship players. The pair of them slow everything down, neither of them make things tick, neither of them can dictate the pace of the game, they almost always look for the easy option, it ****s things up when we have momentum.
I'm not going to in on Siopis too hard, he's a 'Buzzer' of a player, a pain in the arse when the opposition have the ball, he isn't at his best when we are in possession, we all know that, and we need a player like him. Wintle on the other hand is a problem. It's his job to dictate from that withdrawn position and he just doesn't do it. The amount of times that we were in a position to make that telling pass was often last night, especially during the first half, they're the money passes, they're the balls that will win us tight games.
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Tuerto
Last night (Especially during the 1st half) Colwill made some fantastic runs across the line, just advanced of Wintle and siopis, really intelligent and hard working runs, he also peeled off his man on a few occasions putting himself in space. He didn't receive the ball once. Siopis and wintle were either too slow of thought to play him in or just didn't fancy taking on the pass, probably a bit of both. Instead, they 'Started again' allowing Brum to get back in wnen Colwills run had them stretched. It really pissed me off, and if i was Colwill then i wouldn't have been happy because he's done everything possible, and he's worked that opening.
The problem we have is that with siopis and Wintle, and to a lesser degree, Ralls, we don't have speed of thought, that's why they're championship players. The pair of them slow everything down, neither of them make things tick, neither of them can dictate the pace of the game, they almost always look for the easy option, it ****s things up when we have momentum.
I'm not going to in on Siopis too hard, he's a 'Buzzer' of a player, a pain in the arse when the opposition have the ball, he isn't at his best when we are in possession, we all know that, and we need a player like him. Wintle on the other hand is a problem. It's his job to dictate from that withdrawn position and he just doesn't do it. The amount of times that we were in a position to make that telling pass was often last night, especially during the first half, they're the money passes, they're the balls that will win us tight games.
Players have also got to come and get the ball , the front line don't do any of that
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Good post, we've always lack dynamism in the middle.
Up against their 3 central midfielders the writing was on the wall.
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SLUDGE FACTORY
Movement , wanting the ball , running channels etc
Our forward line is far too slow and when we havnt got the ball are standing still
We have missed enough chances for a opinion that they are not up to the task to be valid
List a few of those chances then because I’m sorry, I I can’t agree that we’ve got a midfield just waiting to get creative if they had the right strikers in front of them. Siopis is an improvement on our other midfield players, but, essentially, they’re all much the same apart from. Ramsey - perspiration not inspiration merchants. There was a time when Sawyers would have offered something different, but not any more. Last night we were without our two most creative midfielders and didn’t it show.
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He’s done a great job, clearly we are lacking at the moment.
Not sure we have had a manager who doesn’t make excuses after a loss. Most managers do.
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I've noticed an increasing impatience towards Bulut in recent weeks.
I just don't really get it, no one enjoys last night but more often than not I've come away thinking we have improved a lot on last year.
There have been performances like yesterday and Saturday where it's like last season but that's not too surprising when it's largely the same squad that were no hopers last season.
It's like the groans after a couple of passes between our defenders and the odd shout of gerrit forward, so weird. It's a season of mid table mediocrity, anything more would have been a bonus, but I've much preferred it to last season however low that bar may have been.
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SLUDGE FACTORY
He's done a great job to turn us from relegation certainties yet again to mid table and possibly better
I think he's made a big mistake with the keeper and needs to change that situation
He's been stung by the Ramsey injury but what's hampering us is inability of the front line to take chances and the midfield and wide players to provide those chances
I have no faith in any of our forwards and players like bowler , colwill etc need to start showing up when given the chance
Colwill has many times.
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Trigger
I've noticed an increasing impatience towards Bulut in recent weeks.
I just don't really get it, no one enjoys last night but more often than not I've come away thinking we have improved a lot on last year.
There have been performances like yesterday and Saturday where it's like last season but that's not too surprising when it's largely the same squad that were no hopers last season.
It's like the groans after a couple of passes between our defenders and the odd shout of gerrit forward, so weird. It's a season of mid table mediocrity, anything more would have been a bonus, but I've much preferred it to last season however low that bar may have been.
Pretty much sums it up for me, I find it odd as well. I’m not sure what people expected under an embargo.
Also those who want him out (yes there are some), what type of manager do they really think we will bring in, it’s almost like the last two seasons didn’t happen and people think we should be pushing for promotion,
For me, Bulut has been great, yes he does somethings I don’t like, some players I wish he wouldn’t pick but also plenty of positives. We are certainly higher than I expected. If people want better football, we need better players.
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Garth Blue
Colwill has many times.
I bet to differ
He's clearly a talented lad but it's all ifs and maybes
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2b2bdoo
Pretty much sums it up for me, I find it odd as well. I’m not sure what people expected under an embargo.
Also those who want him out (yes there are some), what type of manager do they really think we will bring in, it’s almost like the last two seasons didn’t happen and people think we should be pushing for promotion,
For me, Bulut has been great, yes he does somethings I don’t like, some players I wish he wouldn’t pick but also plenty of positives. We are certainly higher than I expected. If people want better football, we need better players.
People who want bulut replacing are fecking clueless idiots
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SLUDGE FACTORY
People who want bulut replacing are fecking clueless idiots
Inclined to agree.So far Freebies and loans,only one window,much better football that last season.Inconsistent I know but he played the team everyone seemed to want but still they came up short.
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sneggyblubird
Inclined to agree.So far Freebies and loans,only one window,much better football that last season.Inconsistent I know but he played the team everyone seemed to want but still they came up short.
The pretty stuff at the back is bollocks but if he stopped it someone would say bring it back
It's what our lot do
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SLUDGE FACTORY
The pretty stuff at the back is bollocks but if he stopped it someone would say bring it back
It's what our lot do
Tell me how we'd be better off launching everything from the back at all times.
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Eric the Half a Bee
Tell me how we'd be better off launching everything from the back at all times.
Some of our early season success was in your face direct football
None of this pretty pretty keep ball as Hugh Johns called it
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SLUDGE FACTORY
Some of our early season success was in your face direct football
None of this pretty pretty keep ball as Hugh Johns called it
You still won't acknowledge a difference between direct football to feet and hoofball.
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Eric the Half a Bee
You still won't acknowledge a difference between direct football to feet and hoofball.
We would have done them last night with a bit of physicality
They played like a bunch of poncey hairdressers
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SLUDGE FACTORY
We would have done them last night with a bit of physicality
They played like a bunch of poncey hairdressers
Yeah, right.
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Eric the Half a Bee
Yeah, right.
You wanted better football
Well now you have an attempt to play it
And look what's happening
You are responsible
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SLUDGE FACTORY
Some of our early season success was in your face direct football
None of this pretty pretty keep ball as Hugh Johns called it
Care to give a few examples of games won by playing “in your face, direct football”? We’ve passed the ball around at the back all of the time under this manager, the only difference in recent games is that we’ve stopped scoring goals from open play.
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SLUDGE FACTORY
Some of our early season success was in your face direct football
None of this pretty pretty keep ball as Hugh Johns called it
Who have you been watching this season?
The only player who Cuty have who is in anyone's 'face' is Siopis who plays like he got ADHD.
Have you had a bump on the head?
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Jordi Culé
Who have you been watching this season?
The only player who Cuty have who is in anyone's 'face' is Siopis who plays like he got ADHD.
Have you had a bump on the head?
Cardiff City
You don't get 30 points by being hopeless
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the other bob wilson
Care to give a few examples of games won by playing “in your face, direct football”? We’ve passed the ball around at the back all of the time under this manager, the only difference in recent games is that we’ve stopped scoring goals from open play.
Swansea City
Bristol City
That's two ✌
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SLUDGE FACTORY
You wanted better football
Well now you have an attempt to play it
And look what's happening
You are responsible
You need a job.
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SLUDGE FACTORY
Swansea City
Bristol City
That's two ✌
And there was me thinking you were a hoofball fan, in terms of the type of football we played (ie long ball or the way Bulut likes us to play) we were just the same against those two as we were against everyone else - we can still go direct, but we do it much less than we used to.
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the other bob wilson
And there was me thinking you were a hoofball fan, in terms of the type of football we played (ie long ball or the way Bulut likes us to play) we were just the same against those two as we were against everyone else - we can still go direct, but we do it much less than we used to.
And, more to the point, we generally try and keep long passes to feet. Long gone are the days of whacking it up in the air for someone to battle for it.
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Was it 45 seconds after te two minutes, if so that's not right, and did change the game?
If it was our neck on the block we would be annoyed, but he does have to get on with it dwelling on negative decisions won't help prepare for Hull, probably still without NG and Ralls.
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North Cardiff Blue
Was it 45 seconds after te two minutes, if so that's not right, and did change the game?
If it was our neck on the block we would be annoyed, but he does have to get on with it dwelling on negative decisions won't help prepare for Hull, probably still without NG and Ralls.
I believe there was a delay in injury time. I think it's time for independent time keepers in football where the clock is stopped to avoid time wasting.
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Eric the Half a Bee
I believe there was a delay in injury time. I think it's time for independent time keepers in football where the clock is stopped to avoid time wasting.
Not sure if it’s right but someone said there was only a 15 second stop in injury time.
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2b2bdoo
Not sure if it’s right but someone said there was only a 15 second stop in injury time.
If Birmingham were keeping the ball alive for thirty seconds or so and keeping us under pressure, you could maybe understand the ref playing on for so long, but they were able to work the ball about ninety yards upfield at no great pace. The ref should have blown for half time once the ball reached the halfway line - forget about possible fouls against Etete or whether there was an offside in there somewhere, the first half went on for about half a minute longer than it should have done, that's why we lost the game (granted, our performance was so poor that we didn't deserve anything from it).
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the other bob wilson
If Birmingham were keeping the ball alive for thirty seconds or so and keeping us under pressure, you could maybe understand the ref playing on for so long, but they were able to work the ball about ninety yards upfield at no great pace. The ref should have blown for half time once the ball reached the halfway line - forget about possible fouls against Etete or whether there was an offside in there somewhere, the first half went on for about half a minute longer than it should have done, that's why we lost the game (granted, our performance was so poor that we didn't deserve anything from it).
It wasn’t a wonder goal. The ref didn’t put it in the net either. We conceded because at least 3 players did things that parks players would be embarrassed about.
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It's not an enviable task being interviewed after losses and managers have to say something.
Yes, the football at the moment at City in incredibly dire, frustrating and hard to watch but Bulut has taken us from being a team that could be relegated to what is more like a mid-table team - and with minimal resources. Best give him at least one transfer window to improve things, methinks.