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Neils post match comments on transfer
very depressing, no-one up front, go with what we have, need defensive cover. I've got to be honest, that's not what I want to hear and hope it's no true. We need a minimum of a midfielder & a centre forward in the next 48 hours. I fear we're surrendering with a whimper.
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That would go against the performance tonight which was the exact opposite.
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Think it would be better to save the wongas we really need to start looking to the future and direction of the club
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Originally Posted by
Bobby Dandruff
That would go against the performance tonight which was the exact opposite.
Perhaps with us now staring down the barrel the club have turned the tap off spending any more money.
I wouldn’t blame them. Perhaps it’s best to save some money for the summer.
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We are in urgent need of a right back.
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Originally Posted by
jamieccfc
Think it would be better to save the wongas we really need to start looking to the future and direction of the club
Which would be downwards?
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Originally Posted by
J R Hartley
Perhaps with us now staring down the barrel the club have turned the tap off spending any more money.
I wouldn’t blame them. Perhaps it’s best to save some money for the summer.
Yes, a new manager, new ideas, new players. Not going to come cheap.
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Originally Posted by
Eric the Half a Bee
Yes, a new manager, new ideas, new players. Not going to come cheap.
I agree but I was encouraged by a couple of things tonight which makes me think certain players will flourish more if there is a change of direction, and when asked to play a different way some of them do have the ability do so.
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We need so many players in the next 48 hours to compete in this league it’s ridiculous. Where to start?! Right back for sure- centre defender with Morrison potentially out for the season- midfielders- strikers.
However we all know how hard January is to get players other teams will let go, affordable and who are ready to go. Almost impossible.
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I think stick with what we got up top try and bring a RB in unless can get a very good CB. Centre midfield we need someone who is a dramatic improvement on the 3 we have.
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Originally Posted by
J R Hartley
I agree but I was encouraged by a couple of things tonight which makes me think certain players will flourish more if there is a change of direction, and when asked to play a different way some of them do have the ability do so.
Agreed.
We can play some football. It's when we continually launch the bloody think like a missile for 90 minutes that doesn't work. Warnock must realise that.
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Originally Posted by
J R Hartley
I agree but I was encouraged by a couple of things tonight which makes me think certain players will flourish more if there is a change of direction, and when asked to play a different way some of them do have the ability do so.
I concur.
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Originally Posted by
jamieccfc
Think it would be better to save the wongas we really need to start looking to the future and direction of the club
Lack of investment leads to poverty.
StT.
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Originally Posted by
J R Hartley
Perhaps with us now staring down the barrel the club have turned the tap off spending any more money.
I wouldn’t blame them. Perhaps it’s best to save some money for the summer.
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Originally Posted by Jamieccfc
Think it would be better to save the wongas we really need to start looking to the future and direction of the club
So give up in January, in the Premier league with all the income when 4 points off safety.
Instead look to a 46 match championship, save our spending for the summer in the championship with considerably less income with the ultimate goal to be right back where we are now.
Can't say I get the logic on this one.
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Originally Posted by
Steve the Tea
Lack of investment leads to poverty.
StT.
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Softly, softly, catchee monkey.
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Originally Posted by
Des Parrot
very depressing, no-one up front, go with what we have, need defensive cover. I've got to be honest, that's not what I want to hear and hope it's no true. We need a minimum of a midfielder & a centre forward in the next 48 hours. I fear we're surrendering with a whimper.
There was a lot of pent up emotion in that interview, which is hardly surprising. Sounds like he gave Bruno a rollocking. Good to see Neil back on the bike though, so to speak. Interesting team selection for Saturday. Hopefully Camarasa will be available for what is a massive game, especially with Burnley playing Southampton and Palace playing Fulham. The table could look quite different on Saturday night.
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TBH I thought the lads played well tonight ......... Saturday's game is gonna be MASSIVE :thumbup:
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Gnojek
There was a lot of pent up emotion in that interview, which is hardly surprising. Sounds like he gave Bruno a rollocking. Good to see Neil back on the bike though, so to speak. Interesting team selection for Saturday. Hopefully Camarasa will be available for what is a massive game, especially with Burnley playing Southampton and Palace playing Fulham. The table could look quite different on Saturday night.
Yes and Southampton playing palace tonight. Then all 4 teams immediately around us all playing together. Therefore at least 2 of our genuine relegation rivals will be gaining points on Saturday.
We are currently 3 behind southampton in 17th, but look at the 2 games they have before we play again. Even if they lose the table won’t look any better because of who they are playing. We will certainly be further away from 17th by the time we kick off and will remain in the bottom 3 on Saturday whatever happens.
Bournemouth are a very tidy side, but i do think it’s as close to a must win game as it gets.
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I was at the game last night.
We didn't play as if we were throwing in the towel.
Everyone shouting for Reid he missed a hatful. Fans wanting Manga at centre back He's a liability.Joe Bennett played 3 days after his dad died and was outstanding.
As for the transfer window. We can live in hope.
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Originally Posted by
dandywarhol
I was at the game last night.
We didn't play as if we were throwing in the towel.
Everyone shouting for Reid he missed a hatful. Fans wanting Manga at centre back He's a liability.Joe Bennett played 3 days after his dad died and was outstanding.
As for the transfer window. We can live in hope.
Two, a hatful?
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Originally Posted by
Trigger
So give up in January, in the Premier league with all the income when 4 points off safety.
Instead look to a 46 match championship, save our spending for the summer in the championship with considerably less income with the ultimate goal to be right back where we are now.
Can't say I get the logic on this one.
Agree. We did the hard work getting here. We should be making sure we stay. Investing now to keep the financial rewards coming.
Go back down and it could take years to get here again.
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It sounds as though Neil has given up on transfers. He looked completely deflated last night yet the team played reasonably well.
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I'm sure there are loads of thing's happening at the moment.
There is never any value in listening to any managers post match comments. They have to be careful as anything can happen over then next couple of days. You can have deals fall apart on any last minute snag.
There is every chance there could be a hat full of deals, and every chance that all the deals fall away. Why raise hopes after a match.
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WOL reporting we’ve had a €20m bid for Wesley at Club Brugge rejected. I’d guess it depends on how much they want him, Brugge want €30m.
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Originally Posted by
Trigger
So give up in January, in the Premier league with all the income when 4 points off safety.
Instead look to a 46 match championship, save our spending for the summer in the championship with considerably less income with the ultimate goal to be right back where we are now.
Can't say I get the logic on this one.
A third promotion to the Premier League would be difficult, and it would be with a new manager and a rebuilt team.
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Wales-Bales
A third promotion to the Premier League would be difficult, and it would be with a new manager and a rebuilt team.
Yup, let's do whatever we can to stay in the Premier League.
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Originally Posted by
Trigger
So give up in January, in the Premier league with all the income when 4 points off safety.
Instead look to a 46 match championship, save our spending for the summer in the championship with considerably less income with the ultimate goal to be right back where we are now.
Can't say I get the logic on this one.
I think we need to be realistic, we’ll likely need to pick up 17 points in 10 games, I would prefer for us to sign players that will stick with us next season in the championship
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jamieccfc
I think we need to be realistic, we’ll likely need to pick up 17 points in 10 games, I would prefer for us to sign players that will stick with us next season in the championship
Why bother signing anyone then? Let's just drift aimlessly towards relegation and save VT's money.
I'm genuinely shocked how many people have this attitude.
Loss of £100M revenue, loss of 40% of the squad & the manager, absolutely no guarantees of a top 6 finish in the Championship and crowds down by 10,000 per game. The club has the golden egg, why give it away?
It's like people are homesick for the Championship.
I'm not advocating mad spending but the team is desperate for an injection of new legs & new ideas.
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Originally Posted by
Trigger
So give up in January, in the Premier league with all the income when 4 points off safety.
Instead look to a 46 match championship, save our spending for the summer in the championship with considerably less income with the ultimate goal to be right back where we are now.
Can't say I get the logic on this one.
There is no logic in the two quotes you mention.
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Michael Morris
Agree. We did the hard work getting here. We should be making sure we stay. Investing now to keep the financial rewards coming.
Go back down and it could take years to get here again.
100%
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Michael Morris
Agree. We did the hard work getting here. We should be making sure we stay. Investing now to keep the financial rewards coming.
Go back down and it could take years to get here again.
After a couple of relegations from the PL, combined with a despondent mindset, we could just as easily drop through to League One as get promoted again. Many teams fail to dust themselves off and go again after such upheavals, and the transition just after a relegation is often a critical period if things start to go wrong.
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20 goals in 24 shows where our problem lies.
Having said that our goals against column is the second worst in the league also.
We needed a big transfer window and the club have failed.
It is desperately unlucky and is extremely sad what has happened with Sala but business should have continued as soon as possible when we knew what this meant for the business/football side of things.
Our club is very reactionary in the transfer markets and never pushes the issue.
How many times have we heard 'things might change' and 'we'll have to see'.
How about getting everything in place prior to the transfer window opening and going and getting the players that we need City?
This waiting for the window to open and then being dictated to by other transfers and goings on at other clubs hasn't work and shows no signs of doing so any time soon.
If we 'probably won't' be getting a striker in then we' probably won't' have any chance of staying in this league.
I don't mean to seem insensitive here but the club knew what was required for months on end and the Sala situation is desperately unfortunate but even that deal was virtually off on several occasions so the question remains if we would have got anybody if that had fallen through even.
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Wales-Bales
After a couple of relegations from the PL, combined with a despondent mindset, we could just as easily drop through to League One as get promoted again. Many teams fail to dust themselves off and go again after such upheavals, and the transition just after a relegation is often a critical period if things start to go wrong.
Stoke, richest owner in the Championship, retained the majority of their squad, favourites for promotion (I have money on them) -
Butland, Shawcross, Allen, Clucas, Afobe, Ince, Berahino even Crouch & currently spending more than us in this window.
15th
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Originally Posted by
Des Parrot
Why bother signing anyone then? Let's just drift aimlessly towards relegation and save VT's money.
I'm genuinely shocked how many people have this attitude.
Loss of £100M revenue, loss of 40% of the squad & the manager, absolutely no guarantees of a top 6 finish in the Championship and crowds down by 10,000 per game. The club has the golden egg, why give it away?
It's like people are homesick for the Championship.
I'm not advocating mad spending but the team is desperate for an injection of new legs & new ideas.
I’d love to stay up as much as the next city fan and going down is probably going to set us back years but unless we sign at least 5 new players I just can’t see where the points come from
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Originally Posted by
blue lewj
20 goals in 24 shows where our problem lies.
Having said that our goals against column is the second worst in the league also.
We needed a big transfer window and the club have failed.
It is desperately unlucky and is extremely sad what has happened with Sala but business should have continued as soon as possible when we knew what this meant for the business/football side of things.
Our club is very reactionary in the transfer markets and never pushes the issue.
How many times have we heard 'things might change' and 'we'll have to see'.
How about getting everything in place prior to the transfer window opening and going and getting the players that we need City?
This waiting for the window to open and then being dictated to by other transfers and goings on at other clubs hasn't work and shows no signs of doing so any time soon.
If we 'probably won't' be getting a striker in then we' probably won't' have any chance of staying in this league.
I don't mean to seem insensitive here but the club knew what was required for months on end and the Sala situation is desperately unfortunate but even that deal was virtually off on several occasions so the question remains if we would have got anybody if that had fallen through even.
You are being very insensitive. You obviously also have no idea how the transfer system works or how difficult it is to get players in mid season. NW has already said that they had been working on the Sala transfer for weeks. They have very likely been looking at who to bring in this January since the last window closed in August and would have had a list to chase. You seem to actually think that they sit on their hands for four months waiting for January to come around before rushing around like hesdless chickens trying to sign anybody they can. How on earth can they plan for their number one target being killed in an accident with under two weeks left in the window. How soon after the accident do you think we should have gone looking for a replacement - 8 hours ? 12 hours ? a day ? You are living in cloud cuckoo land.
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dml1954
You are being very insensitive. You obviously also have no idea how the transfer system works or how difficult it is to get players in mid season. NW has already said that they had been working on the Sala transfer for weeks. They have very likely been looking at who to bring in this January since the last window closed in August and would have had a list to chase. You seem to actually think that they sit on their hands for four months waiting for January to come around before rushing around like hesdless chickens trying to sign anybody they can. How on earth can they plan for their number one target being killed in an accident with under two weeks left in the window. How soon after the accident do you think we should have gone looking for a replacement - 8 hours ? 12 hours ? a day ? You are living in cloud cuckoo land.
Going by your reckoning most threads on here discussing transfers are insensitive then?
Or does it just apply to strikers? I don't see you jumping on those threads and suggesting anything like that though.
I have some idea of how the transfer window works but would question whether those involved at City know enough about it if I'm honest. We have a poor record of doing things well in the summer or January. We were making noises about how difficult things were to do deals before the window opened even.
Do we need a striker? Yes.
We are apparently not meant to try for one to avoid being insensitive.
All well and good but we have not got enough goals in that team to survive as it is.
Let's not forget here we needed more than a striker which was glaringly obvious but haven't got those over the line either. Anybody would think they would have done so with all the preparation they have put in for months prior to the window opening or so you would have us believe.
The evidence of many windows suggests we react to what other teams do and panic at the last minute. It seems we are doing just that this time with just over a day to do the remaining deals.
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blue lewj
Going by your reckoning most threads on here discussing transfers are insensitive then?
Or does it just apply to strikers? I don't see you jumping on those threads and suggesting anything like that though.
I have some idea of how the transfer window works but would question whether those involved at City know enough about it if I'm honest. We have a poor record of doing things well in the summer or January. We were making noises about how difficult things were to do deals before the window opened even.
Do we need a striker? Yes.
We are apparently not meant to try for one to avoid being insensitive.
All well and good but we have not got enough goals in that team to survive as it is.
Let's not forget here we needed more than a striker which was glaringly obvious but haven't got those over the line either. Anybody would think they would have done so with all the preparation they have put in for months prior to the window opening or so you would have us believe.
The evidence of many windows suggests we react to what other teams do and panic at the last minute. It seems we are doing just that this time with just over a day to do the remaining deals.
We clearly need a striker, everyone at the club knows that and that is why we signed Sala for a club record fee, along with the loan of Niasse. Sala was our no.1 target it would seem and behind the scenes this more than likely went on for a long time. The club worked hard to get him in and the deal was done.
I'm not really sure what more they could have done in this situation.
Hopefully we can get another in before the window closes but I certainly wont be criticising the club for this transfer window.
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Originally Posted by
blue lewj
Going by your reckoning most threads on here discussing transfers are insensitive then?
Or does it just apply to strikers? I don't see you jumping on those threads and suggesting anything like that though.
I have some idea of how the transfer window works but would question whether those involved at City know enough about it if I'm honest. We have a poor record of doing things well in the summer or January. We were making noises about how difficult things were to do deals before the window opened even.
Do we need a striker? Yes.
We are apparently not meant to try for one to avoid being insensitive.
All well and good but we have not got enough goals in that team to survive as it is.
Let's not forget here we needed more than a striker which was glaringly obvious but haven't got those over the line either. Anybody would think they would have done so with all the preparation they have put in for months prior to the window opening or so you would have us believe.
The evidence of many windows suggests we react to what other teams do and panic at the last minute. It seems we are doing just that this time with just over a day to do the remaining deals.
Don't you dare say anything negative or mildly critical, otherwise he'll be on to you in a flash :-)
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Originally Posted by
Trigger
We clearly need a striker, everyone at the club knows that and that is why we signed Sala for a club record fee, along with the loan of Niasse. Sala was our no.1 target it would seem and behind the scenes this more than likely went on for a long time. The club worked hard to get him in and the deal was done.
I'm not really sure what more they could have done in this situation.
Hopefully we can get another in before the window closes but I certainly wont be criticising the club for this transfer window.
I wouldn't be overly critical on the striker front given the circumstances but the window is 31 days long with as long as you like to do some work prior to this.
We had three weeks to do a deal for a right back, a position that it is glaringly obvious we need reinforcements in. We did nothing in those three weeks other than show alarming naivety in taking a verbal agreement for Clyne as a green light that he was going to come.
Yes the course of events are tragic and have left us in a very difficult position but are we to believe the Sala deal was the only one the club explored in the first three weeks of this transfer window?
As has been mentioned there would or should have been a list of potential signings. We got a striker but as hard as it is need to push on with the other targets if we are to have a chance of survival.
I see no reason why we have not sorted out the right back situation prior to Sala and, if we have done our groundwork on other signings, why we can't secure these before the deadline.
If the Premier League hadn't insisted that the deadline was non negotiable then this would not be something the club or anybody else would like to consider but they have forced the club's hand. The rules have left no room for sentiment sadly.
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Originally Posted by
Des Parrot
Why bother signing anyone then? Let's just drift aimlessly towards relegation and save VT's money.
I'm genuinely shocked how many people have this attitude.
Loss of £100M revenue, loss of 40% of the squad & the manager, absolutely no guarantees of a top 6 finish in the Championship and crowds down by 10,000 per game. The club has the golden egg, why give it away?
It's like people are homesick for the Championship.
I'm not advocating mad spending but the team is desperate for an injection of new legs & new ideas.
If there is plenty going on behind the scenes, then continue.
My fear is we are now in the final 24 hours and, apart from rumours, e do not seem to be closing any deal.
My main worry is a couple of panic buys, wasting even more money, which a new manager may need in the summer.