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Cardiff taxi fares set to rise after vote
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-61927731
Taxi fares are set to rise in Cardiff after a proposal from drivers was approved by councillors.
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£3.50 just to get in the car.
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An increase of one third is outrageous really, and how can the council possibly point elsewhere and site a cost of living issue when they overlook an insrease of upto 32%!? The city is becoming more and more a place for the wealthy.
The other more serious side to it, is you risk an increase in people choosing to walk late at night, or going 'as far as a tenner' and walking the rest, which could be risky for some.
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They pluck numbers out of thin air most times I get one anyway (at night after a drink). Will just push more people towards Uber.
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Taxi from the rank by the Naipier on a Friday Saturday night to Barry will cost you anything from £30 to £40. ( plucked out of the air as the previous poster mentioned.)
Uber around £15 to £18. Robbing barstards. They'll just price themselves out of the market.
And to be clear I'm not talking about all taxi drivers. You know the ones...
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Originally Posted by
JamesWales
An increase of one third is outrageous really, and how can the council possibly point elsewhere and site a cost of living issue when they overlook an insrease of upto 32%!? The city is becoming more and more a place for the wealthy.
The other more serious side to it, is you risk an increase in people choosing to walk late at night, or going 'as far as a tenner' and walking the rest, which could be risky for some.
Fuel prices have doubled in 2 years, drivers cost of living is rising, as is everyone's. Should taxi drivers shoulder all of that?
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Originally Posted by
Eric the Half a Bee
Fuel prices have doubled in 2 years, drivers cost of living is rising, as is everyone's. Should taxi drivers shoulder all of that?
Of course not, but jumping by a third is a huge hike, and as discussed may lose them business and it just makes a night out in the city more and more expensive for people
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Originally Posted by
JamesWales
Of course not, but jumping by a third is a huge hike, and as discussed may lose them business and it just makes a night out in the city more and more expensive for people
So if fuel has doubled in 2 years, a jump of a third surely means they're still earning less than 2 years ago, especially adding into the equation inflation.
Inflation is also going to make people less inclined to have a night out in the city anyway, unless they can afford it, then a modest taxi rise is the least of their worries.
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Taxi back to Caerphilly should be £20-£25
Off the meter (only ones that will take you) you’re talking £45-50+
But go to most cities and there’s a nightbus 24 hours a day
The soon ‘those’ taxi drivers go the better
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Originally Posted by
WJ99mobile
Taxi back to Caerphilly should be £20-£25
Off the meter (only ones that will take you) you’re talking £45-50+
But go to most cities and there’s a nightbus 24 hours a day
The soon ‘those’ taxi drivers go the better
what cities do nightbus 24 hours a day W99 ? didn't see any of those when i was in the midlands
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Originally Posted by
Eric the Half a Bee
So if fuel has doubled in 2 years, a jump of a third surely means they're still earning less than 2 years ago, especially adding into the equation inflation.
Inflation is also going to make people less inclined to have a night out in the city anyway, unless they can afford it, then a modest taxi rise is the least of their worries.
It's not a modest rise - it's up by a third. And permanent. You can't complain about the rising cost of living and then be the rising cost of living as well. That's how it never ends.
I'll just download uber or walk more I guess. Taxi's have always been good value in Cardiff but not in future it seems.
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Originally Posted by
MOZZER2
what cities do nightbus 24 hours a day W99 ? didn't see any of those when i was in the midlands
Cardiff did for a while around 2005ish
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JamesWales
It's not a modest rise - it's up by a third. And permanent. You can't complain about the rising cost of living and then be the rising cost of living as well. That's how it never ends.
Yet another reply from you leads to me headbutting another hole in the partition wall.
So what should people do? Moan and struggle? You really don't give a shit about working class people, do you? Full of hypocrisy.
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Originally Posted by
MOZZER2
what cities do nightbus 24 hours a day W99 ? didn't see any of those when i was in the midlands
Birmingham for one
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Originally Posted by
Eric the Half a Bee
Yet another reply from you leads to me headbutting another hole in the partition wall.
So what should people do? Moan and struggle? You really don't give a shit about working class people, do you? Full of hypocrisy.
God you are smug. You just supported adding a third to every working class persons taxi mate. Get off your high horse. You seem to take this in your stride, so there is every chance I have less disposable income than you. It's a huge increase. You only support it cos of the party doing it! The result will probably be a rise in uber use or people using less taxis generally.
Presumably you understand that if train fares jumped
by 33% less people may use them - may be the same here.
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JamesWales
God you are smug. You just supported adding a third to every working class persons taxi mate.
You've just said that taxi drivers shouldn't shoulder fuel and general inflation. What is it to be then?
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WJ99mobile
Birmingham for one
wow didn't see that and i stayed there for a number of years mainly in the south Kings Norton area for a while and the north of the city Aston Villa land Erdington !
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Originally Posted by
Eric the Half a Bee
You've just said that taxi drivers shouldn't shoulder fuel and general inflation. What is it to be then?
Perhaps something less than upto a 33% rise? Perhaps a temporary rise due to the temporary spike in inflation? Perhaps there are other ideas someone can have, that means that just because they don't support whacking up fares, it doesn't mean they 'dont give a shit about working class people'.
What is irritating is how you are the self appointed guardian of the working classes and anyone who doesn't support charging everyone a third more somehow hates them. Get a hold of yourself! :facepalm:
Loads of working class people rely on taxis too - those who cannot afford or are too old or ill to run a car etc etc. Massively increasing the fares hits them too ya know.
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When it comes to taxis at night
If a group of people go on the lash into Cardiff, finish the night by getting a curry and expect someone to get them home safely at 3 am and it costs say 12 quid between em then if they are going to moan at a price rise whilst getting pissed on water with alcohol in it
Then feck off and stay at home
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Originally Posted by
MOZZER2
wow didn't see that and i stayed there for a number of years mainly in the south Kings Norton area for a while and the north of the city Aston Villa land Erdington !
Not every service and every place but we did get a few night buses up at Birmingham a few years ago I remember taking it like 1am
It was reason why our relative lived where he lived (Kitts Green if I recall) so he could get home whatever time he needed
Doesn’t need to be frequent just reliable and reasonable.
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does Cardiff have Uber ? ? ?
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SLUDGE FACTORY
When it comes to taxis at night
If a group of people go on the lash into Cardiff, finish the night by getting a curry and expect someone to get them home safely at 3 am and it costs say 12 quid between em then if they are going to moan at a price rise whilst getting pissed on water with alcohol in it
Then feck off and stay at home
And what about the poorer old lady who gets a taxi to her friends house for tea or to the hospital or to the coffee shop?
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Originally Posted by
WJ99mobile
Not every service and every place but we did get a few night buses up at Birmingham a few years ago I remember taking it like 1am
It was reason why our relative lived where he lived (Kitts Green if I recall) so he could get home whatever time he needed
Doesn’t need to be frequent just reliable and reasonable.
fair enough remember having a few good nights out in Marston green which is not too far from Kitts Green . oh the memories !
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JamesWales
And what about the poorer old lady who gets a taxi to her friends house for tea or to the hospital or to the coffee shop?
The poor old lady who goes into Cardiff on a night out ?
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Originally Posted by
JamesWales
Of course not, but jumping by a third is a huge hike, and as discussed may lose them business and it just makes a night out in the city more and more expensive for people
Their costs have risen by more than a third.
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Originally Posted by
JamesWales
And what about the poorer old lady who gets a taxi to her friends house for tea or to the hospital or to the coffee shop?
Should Taxi drivers shoulder the burden for the cost of living increase to others?
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This is divide and rule again
Taxi Drivers are mostly working class people
In the case of Cardiff at night they are picking up people who have often had a few on board
Some of whom play up
Call it danger money
Of course screwing the last penny out of a disabled pensioner is a different thing altogether but that's not the point really
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I completely get this. They don't really have a choice, costs have gone up so much for them what else can they do?
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My annoyance with Taxis is if they are a licenced Hackney carriage in the city of Cardiff and you get in and are travelling in the city boundaries they must take you and put the meter on, they can't demand money up front they can't pluck a figure out of the air and they can't refuse to take you (if its a short journey).
My father was a licensed Hackney driver in the city of Cardiff I know the rules.
If they stray from these rules take their number and report them.
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JamesWales
And what about the poorer old lady who gets a taxi to her friends house for tea or to the hospital or to the coffee shop?
Are you all for taxi drivers doing favours instead of earning?
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Originally Posted by
SLUDGE FACTORY
This is divide and rule again
Taxi Drivers are mostly working class people
In the case of Cardiff at night they are picking up people who have often had a few on board
Some of whom play up
Call it danger money
Of course screwing the last penny out of a disabled pensioner is a different thing altogether but that's not the point really
Plus they work often really unsociable hours.
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Eric the Half a Bee
Plus they work often really unsociable hours.
Bunch of solicitors , architects and that type go to a rugby dinner black tie bollocks at 100 quid a ticket
Get pissed
Taxi home to Penarth
Complain about the fare when they are on 100 k a year and the poor bastard taking them home and listening to their drunken nonsense lives in a flat in pentrebane
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Well, we shall see what happens won't we, but hiking fares by up to one third in one go, is a pretty steep rise for customers who are suffering under high inflation as it is. It's a good example of how you end up combating inflation by becoming inflation
As mentioned in this article, Cardiff will go from 161st to 10th most expensive local authority in the UK for people to use taxis. There is then the risk of drivers from elsewhere using Cardiff and of course uber.
I think a rise of upto a third is pretty steep, but like I said, we shall see..
https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/w...rdiff-24315580
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Yes uber has been here for a few years now.
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barrybloo
Yes uber has been here for a few years now.
Since Uber lost the Supreme Court case in '21 there are hardly any drivers around now. I use cabs regularly in Cardiff as I haven't driven for over ten years now and at one point before the pandemic would use a cab 2 or 3 times a day. Getting cabs from Cardiff Central when arriving back on late trains (23:00) is a nightmare though. There aren't enough doing midweek late nights anymore. They're a life-saver for me and I support their fares increase, always tip and have hardly ever had a bad experience. In fact, quite the opposite, I've got to know some great cabbies in Cardiff over the years including a few Season Ticket holders too!
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JamesWales
Well, we shall see what happens won't we, but hiking fares by up to one third in one go, is a pretty steep rise for customers who are suffering under high inflation as it is.
And taxi drivers aren't suffering under high inflation?
Maybe the tories should sort their infighting out, spend less time throwing out red meat to racists, and more time trying to sort out the cost of living crisis and massive inflation, without expecting everyone who isn't a shareholder, c-level or tory donor to just suck it up!
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Wil folk actually be able afford nights out??
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life on mars
Wil folk actually be able afford nights out??
The way its going, no. With fuel bills going up by a possible 50% in a couple of months, a litre of petrol/diesel going up a few pence per week(sometimes more), supermarket prices seemingly going up on every visit, its not leaving a lot for social events. Linking it back to football, I can see very low crowds happening after the world cup when the season starts back up, even a lot of season ticket holders could be pushed to find money for travel to home games.
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Originally Posted by
Eric the Half a Bee
Fuel prices have doubled in 2 years, drivers cost of living is rising, as is everyone's. Should taxi drivers shoulder all of that?
Underlying fuel prices haven't doubled in 2 years.
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JamesWales
And what about the poorer old lady who gets a taxi to her friends house for tea or to the hospital or to the coffee shop?
But how far will they be going? Their pensions have just gone up 10%, now they'll be paying probanly only another £1.50 on their taxi. I can't see why they are going to suffer