I see the bigger clubs want more say when it comes to future changes to the league.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/54499998
I agree in principle with some of the suggestions but others need more detail than the Beeb provide
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I see the bigger clubs want more say when it comes to future changes to the league.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/54499998
I agree in principle with some of the suggestions but others need more detail than the Beeb provide
If it’s coming from the big clubs then any long term benefit will almost certainly be in their favour.
Obviously I’m not privy to anything more than the BB C report but protected status for certain clubs and a reduction in teams to 18 sounds like the start of a ring fencing of the PL.
The bail out to the lower league clubs sounds like a nice gesture but once that has gone then what?
You always have to question the long term plans in these moves and experience suggests the ordinary supporters are the least least likely to benefit . You never know but am wary of the way this plays out.
PL and many EFL clubs are fuming with Rick Parry. His position is untenable.
I believe things can't stay as they are, post Covid could see some clubs falter anyway, if by reducing the Premiership to 18 that would enhance the quality in our league , sadly the bottom clubs will be adversely effected , if by accepting this deal the Premiership provides substantial compensation to the EFL clubs would that not be a postive and save some clubs ?.
Sadly doing nothing Is not an option, whatever is decided the EFL needs help, and the Premiership has the dosh and tools to help, so I guess its naturally going to favour the bigger clubs , whatever deal comes forward someone will be upset.
The ending of parachute payments would mean promoted clubs insisting on a ‘relegation clause’ in prospective signing’s contracts with a significant drop in salary should they immediately go down perhaps. Would they and their agents readily agree to this?
If they scrap the voting rights changes this may have some legs otherwise there's no chance. If it did get passed the big six could change future rules without anyone else having a say which is dangerous to the future of the game.
Is 25% of Premier League TV deals better than the current offer?
I'm not bothered about the end of the community shield as it hasn't benefited Charity for years.
While they are at it the academy system needs an overhaul to give the youngsters competitive games against men
United , Liverpool, Everton , Spurs and Arsenal dragged the rest of the top flight into becoming the greedy league many years ago
It stinks , the whole of it
I love it when clubs like Burnley or Watford go up and stay up for a few years and upset the big boys
I wish we had managed to stay up and naff everyone off but it wasn't to be
The beautiful game has turned into a cash cow and now football is hitting hard times any sense of a community is off the table
Money talks and bullshit walks
Thatcher is rubbing her hands with glee
Just listened to him on the BBC, he was totally in favour of it !
You could see the bulging envelopes of cash sticking out of his back pockets.
The girl interviewing finished with a sarky remark, something like "you can see where his loyalties lie"
Parry was Premier League and Liverpool FC CEO, EFL clubs shouldn't be surprised as to his outlook on the game but looking at the link below it seems like the clubs had little say to put him in the role in the first place?
https://www.efl.com/news/2018/octobe...for-efl-chair/
Latest in a long line of steps that ultimately lead to a closed shop premier league (or perhaps european super league - hell maybe a global league). With franchise teams representing different areas.
The billionaire investors controlling the big clubs have long been coveting the kind of earnings that the NFL franchises generate
Wasn’t Parry the one who we contributed £5m to for his leaving gift from the premier league? To thank him for all those years of service to a league we only spent two seasons in...
Man Utd leading this says everything really, a very big business but representative of the idea that football is only about 'the product' now. I don't actually know anybody who watches the Premier League for entertainment anymore, if betting was banned the audience in the UK would drop massively.
Forest Green says 'yay'; West Ham says 'nay'.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/54505270
None of this will make any difference whilst the obscene financial parasites aka Agents are operating the way they are.
Players need to start taking personal responsibility too, especially when ground and support staff are being made redundant. I'm unaware of Premier League players being made redundant, even though, professionally, they're doing no more each week than completing a televised training session. Home and away matches - totally meaningless.
Meanwhile the Premier League want PPV being played in massive, empty stadia.
Premier league clubs have been involved in £1bn of transfer deals this last close season yet there are some players who take a couple of weeks to amass the £500,000 that Macclesfield needed to stay afloat.
The whole of professional football stinks and the sooner it comes crashing down the better. Covid should be that catalyst because football will survive. Clubs will reform. Fans should be the primary shareholders and we shouldn't be aspiring to global football.
One final point on this. The proposals seem very similar to the kind of disproportionate power the likes of Ferrari and Mercedes have in F1.
The premier league being 18 clubs, making it more difficult to get promoted and stay up, and future decisions being determined by clubs who increasingly want to become global brands instead of football clubs is worrying for a side not already in that division.
Scrapping the league cup, even if our day at Wembley was fantastic, and spreading wealth more throughout leagues is a fair idea.
Not sure how much more big six need to make premier league closed shop though. 10 of the premier league clubs are London, Manchester and Liverpool based and with global interest in these three cities it's already much, much more difficulty for a side away from this to compete. Seemingly, the only way to do it is to spend £100 million every summer window or build strong relations with a super-agent so you're part of their global family.
Hopefully fans of these big clubs reject the idea remembering that at least three of the protected clubs have been in Championship or lower within recent history.
Would the super league perhaps not be a bad thing for say they top 6 , I would say this is maybe the first move to that idea .
With the top 6 almost out of sight now financially and player squad strengths , would a new era with leagues without the top 6 be more competitive like the Championship ?
Those fans not wanting to support or join the gravy train of the top 6 , may then look to support other local teams in their area .
It must be quite a relief to you that we are having a Covid pandemic then, bearing in mind you think it could provide the catalyst to bring the whole of professional football down and you clearly think that would be a good thing. If that did happen that would most likely bring about the demise of the club you apparently support, which is a rather odd aim to have in my opinion. The reason there is so much money in professional football is because it is a good product and people want to watch it, whether it is live or on tv. I would suggest that you go and watch someone in the United Counties League where you would get an ample supply of no fans, no atmosphere, no money, no ambition, no cover, no pies, no teas or beer etc etc.
Looks as though big clubs have put this together as know can forfeit a year of money in order to make a lot more for the considerable.
They know a number of clubs will be so desperate for the cash will have to vote for it. Especially league 1 or 2 who have very little expectation of making it to the PL.
however many million people watch match of the day aren't doing that to check their betting slip
Wow! So much passive aggression.
To suggest I'm relieved about having a Covid pandemic is just plain silly, mean and in poor taste.
BTW there are fans and atmosphere, ambition, pies, tea and (sometimes) beer in the lower leagues (including the United Counties League)...not so much money though unless (and here's the novel bit) we stop lining the pockets of TV and betting companies.
But hey, have a pop at a fellow supporter and leave the FA, Premier League suits, FIFA, Agents etc. alone.
I love all football. I love Cardiff City. It's possible to do both (in fact, weirdly, I find it helps) :ayatollah:
Of the top 5 divisions, the Premier League is almost certainly the division I bet on least often (if you excuse the Sky Super 6, which I have £1 on each Saturday). I never bet on single matches anyway and the EPL games generally feature unattractive odds unless you fancy an upset. The Championship and League One are the divisions that feature most regularly in my accumulators.
I must admit to being thoroughly entertained by the games at Old Trafford & Villa Park the other Sunday, ironic that the two worst teams in the Premier League on current form (you’re only as good as your last game:hehe:) seem to be leading the charge on this proposal.
Indeed. There are some really odd theories about the millions of people in this country who enjoy watching the Premier League on TV. On the one hand, we're all plastics who aren't proper fans of the game. On the other, we're all gamblers who wouldn't watch it if we couldn't have a bet.
I thought we were just people who are interested in football and enjoy watching the game, but maybe that's a bit too simple.
Anyways back to reform , let the greedy 6 go , create a new product without them I'm sure we'd survive , up the City and live stadium football .
I watch the premier League on TV less than I did a few years back, but still quite a lot and it is only ever for entertainment. I have never bet on football in my life, and the pleasure of watching top tier games is to appreciate the drama and the higher skills level, and to do it without giving half a toss who wins.
In a different way watching local non-league matches is also about enjoying a game (even if lower levels of skill and fitness) without caring much about the result.
Watching City is a totally different thing - a labour of love and compulsion. There is much greater stress and much less pleasure (unless we are four up in the last minute of injury time!). It is a mash up of hope and fear, joy and despair - all shared with a community of other addicts.