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Osei-Tutu out for 4 more weeks as well.
Time to cut Tomlin loose.
Could go two ways, it’s either all over for him or he comes back like before akin to a superb new signing. I fear the former.
We should have done it years ago. He is not only a waste of the clubs money but he also gives people cause for hope that he is never going to fulfill.Quote:
Originally Posted by NYCBlue
Hands up those who didn't see this coming....
Contract signing is dangerous.Quote:
Originally Posted by tforturton
Whoever let it happen should have a look at themself. Hasn't Dalman heard of risk management?Quote:
Originally Posted by life on mars
I’m utterly sick of this guy and also sick of his sycophants who seem to be quite large in number. Players who give their all must be totally peed off at the constant whining from fans who bellyache whenever he isn’t named in the team or are convinced we would have won 5-0 if he hadn’t been withdrawn on the hour.
Tomlin was in the middle of a run of starting 16 out of 18 league games when he signed that contract.Quote:
Originally Posted by NYCBlue
In our wisdom he has a contract for the season beyond this one as well, taking him up to the age of 33.
Even without a groin he's probably our most creative player.
Exactly. Less than half a season. In three years. So we give him a two-year deal.Quote:
Originally Posted by LeningradCowboy
Because he was our best outfield player by a mile last season before lockdown. It's not like we're talking about Matthew Connolly or Jazz Richards.Quote:
Originally Posted by NYCBlue
Which he conveniently put together just as his contract was up for renewal, having done mot much to justify his money before or since!!Quote:
Originally Posted by LeningradCowboy
Yes but what good is a brilliant outfield player if more than half the time he isn't playing because he is injured or "his head isn't in the right place" (Poor lamb) or he is just too damned lazy to train and get fit?Quote:
Originally Posted by LeningradCowboy
What good is he? none at all!
I am amazed at the short term attitude the club exhibits at times. I get it from the manager's perspective, he has to make hay while the sun shines or he's out on his arse. But not the directors. I'd like them bring someone in with a 3-5 year plan to get this club into shape from the bottom up. We have been in a spend/reward/bust/save cycle for some time now and it doesn't seem to be getting us anywhere. The club needs to think about how it can get the EPL and stay there.
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Originally Posted by NYCBlue
And yet there are people on here (we know who they are......) who ACTUALLY said that the club had 'no choice' but to offer him a new contract. :facepalm:
As stupid as it is laughable and this isn't even a case of anyone being wise after the event - everyone could see this happening.
I doubt that we'll ever see a player who could rarely manage 90 mins when he was 'fit' making a meaningful contribution.
Do clubs never offer 'pay as you play' contracts for injury prone players?
At least he'll have Vassell to keep him company I suppose. :shrug:
The Championship isn't exactly overflowing with players of Tomlin's ability. He'll probably contribute more than most of our squad this season even if he only plays 20 games.Quote:
Originally Posted by xsnaggle
It would be great if he had taken better care of his body when he was younger, but then he'd be playing for a mid-table Premier League club instead of us.
So you would have been happy if he had left the club at the end of June when we were pushing for the play-offs?Quote:
Originally Posted by Bobby Dandruff
:yikes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Trigger
Boring, boring BobbyQuote:
Originally Posted by Bobby Dandruff
We could have a Messi and Ronaldo upfront and he’d still find something to ****ing moan about. Deluded twat.Quote:
Originally Posted by LeningradCowboy
Yeah that’s not how contracts work. He’ll be back and have something to offer. Vassell on the other hand....Quote:
Originally Posted by NYCBlue
Everything is negotiable. I'm sure his agent would love it.Quote:
Originally Posted by J R Hartley
Almost. After the play offs.Quote:
Originally Posted by LeningradCowboy
And then we could have invested his not inconsiderable wages on someone who actually plays.
Seems pretty obvious to me. No point in having a player, however good they are (see Jack Wilshire for example) if they never play. What exactly is the point of that?
Completely pointless and a huge waste of resources 🤷*♂️
Or just downright pragmatic.Quote:
Originally Posted by J R Hartley
I’m sorry for you if you think giving Tomlin a new contract was actually a good idea. I really am.
Tomlin is a game changer . He's at the tail end of his career but with a decent surgeon and rehab he's still got the brains and skills to make a huge difference at this level . I wish him the very best .
Even if he's out for 4 months , he's a quality player who wins games . You don't get rid of people like that because he's towards the end of his career , if he's good enough , get him in the team .Quote:
Originally Posted by LeningradCowboy
not offering a new contract, or offering one year rather than two could well have turned out to be the better move, but we are where we are, and I'm sure everyone would like to see him back in the side and fit.
we paid 3 million for him and probably gets about a million a year in wages, he's into his fourth season with us and he's got another to go. While that kind of money isn't going to ruin us, don't think it's unreasonable for fans to expect more than 57 appearances during that time, the vast majority of which would have been 60 minutes tops, followed by lots of speculation about what he could do if only he got fully fit.
And yet in those 59 games he’s been involved in 20+ goals. Last year he was averaging a goal or assist every 1.5 games.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rjk
For the first 2.5 years he was largely ignored by the twat who signed him.
Give me 60 minutes of a guy who’s available 60/70% of the time than most of the dross Colin signed.
Tomlin's old contract expired on 30th June. Why would he have stuck around for the play-offs if we weren't going to offer him a new one?Quote:
Originally Posted by Bobby Dandruff
Tomlin's best period at Cardiff came under Harris and he was also our best player for that period of time. Without him we wouldn't have been in the play-offs, but without the play-offs he'd be in the starting 11 now.
Tomlin before Harris came in was not good enough to get into the first 11 despite it also being true that the first 11 not set up to bring the best out of him.