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Priti Patel issues orders to turn them boats around
Brilliant news this, about time we took back control of our waters.
How many safe countries are these migrants passing through to get here?
What's the deal with that?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-58495948
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It’s a PR exercise, she’s got no power to turn them back in International waters. The French will not stop them leaving their waters and once they're over the dotted line they’re the UKs responsibility and since we left the EU we can no longer deport them
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Originally Posted by
nugent
Brilliant news this, about time we took back control of our waters.
How many safe countries are these migrants passing through to get here?
What's the deal with that?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-58495948
Don't worry, they won't be going to Barry....ya fkin prejudiced knt.
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You can move this fcker over to the non-football board asap so we can all forget about it. Fckin embarrassing. some of the retrobates on here.
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Our waters !
Our borders !
Our jobs !
Jurassic Park 2021
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Originally Posted by
Divine Wright
You can move this fcker over to the non-football board asap so we can all forget about it. Fckin embarrassing. some of the retrobates on here.
People have different opinions about it.
On the one hand, it's allowing desperate people to leave France to come to the UK.
On the other its facilitating a global human trafficking programme that is one of the most obnoxious trades on earth.
The reality is it's both, but people should be able to talk about it without people shutting it down.
Personally, I think it's right to rescue people from warzones - we evacuated thousands from Afghanistan, and it's right to have a liberal immigration programme, but you cant just turn up and enter a country from another safe one. That isn't right, however much you want it.
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Originally Posted by
JamesWales
People have different opinions about it.
On the one hand, it's allowing desperate people to leave France to come to the UK.
On the other its facilitating a global human trafficking programme that is one of the most obnoxious trades on earth.
The reality is it's both, but people should be able to talk about it without people shutting it down.
I don't think the original poster was thinking about the welfare of human beings or the global human trafficking programme when he posted this
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Originally Posted by
nugent
Brilliant news this, about time we took back control of our waters.
How many safe countries are these migrants passing through to get here?
What's the deal with that?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-58495948
It's not brilliant news. It's against international laws.
I'm all for going after the gangs who organise such voyages (although the Tories have now reduced our ability to do that with budget cuts) but this is just inhumane.
Also, the Tories have reduced our ability to negotiate and collaborate with the EU so that migrants can be absorbed across the EU.
However, the Tories had no intention of dealing with this when we were in the EU as they used migrants as political leverage to make people angry at the EU and therefore advance their right wing agenda.
Patel is one of the most corrupt and toxic politicians we have ever had. She has been found guilty of bullying on THREE separate occasions which cost the tax payer money in compensation.
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Originally Posted by
Des Parrot
since we left the EU we can no longer deport them
If their asylum application fails they can be deported, what difference does being in the EU make?
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Originally Posted by
SLUDGE FACTORY
I don't think the original poster was thinking about the welfare of human beings or the global human trafficking programme when he posted this
Wasnt he?
Anyone who is, is labelled a racist even for raising it, so we don't know.
I'd say millions are concerned about this matter and it's high time the country had a sensible conversation about it.
It's not right, and everyone knows it, whoever you vote for.
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Originally Posted by
AfricanBluebird
It's not brilliant news. It's against international laws.
I'm all for going after the gangs who organise such voyages (although the Tories have now reduced our ability to do that with budget cuts) but this is just inhumane.
Also, the Tories have reduced our ability to negotiate and collaborate with the EU so that migrants can be absorbed across the EU.
However, the Tories had no intention of dealing with this when we were in the EU as they used migrants as political leverage to make people angry at the EU and therefore advance their right wing agenda.
Patel is one of the most corrupt and toxic politicians we have ever had. She has been found guilty of bullying on THREE separate occasions which cost the tax payer money in compensation.
She's a twat
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Originally Posted by
JamesWales
Wasnt he?
Anyone who is, is labelled a racist even for raising it, so we don't know.
I'd say millions are concerned about this matter and it's high time the country had a sensible conversation about it.
It's not right, and everyone knows it, whoever you vote for.
Yes I am certain he wasn't
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On the other its facilitating a global human trafficking programme that is one of the most obnoxious trades on earth.
If you think this is why they’re doing this I’ve got a bridge to sell you, you disingenuous c*nt.
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Originally Posted by
Divine Wright
You can move this fcker over to the non-football board asap so we can all forget about it. Fckin embarrassing. some of the retrobates on here.
After last nights game football is the last thing I want to talk about
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Originally Posted by
Croesy Blue
If you think this is why they’re doing this I’ve got a bridge to sell you, you disingenuous c*nt.
What's your solution? Or do you just ignore it and insult anyone with a different view or who tries to address and acknowledge issues?
What would you do?
And yes, this is a part of the global human trafficking trade. It absolutely is.
And no, not everyone arriving in boats is fleeing war.
And no, they aren't all good, honourable people. Some are. Some aren't. Most destroy ID so we have no idea.
There is a process and this isnt it.
We all know, just some are willing to address it, and some are happy with fingers in ears insulting people and shouting racist.
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Sounds like the measures to joint measures to deal with this broke down with France on Wednesday .
I wonder if France has any interest in stopping this .
I am baffled why so many migrants travel through so many wonderful Europe countries to get to us, many say we treat folk dreadfully ??
The mayor of Calais summed it up for me when interviewed a month or so ago ( "if you didn't make it so inviting they would not cross" ) so it begs the question how are they treated on mainland Europe and France , what don't they get in France that forces them to our shores , are they treated that badly , are they victimised ??
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Originally Posted by
JamesWales
What's your solution? Or do you just ignore it and insult anyone with a different view or who tries to address and acknowledge issues?
What would you do?
Are you saying this thread was about solutions and trying to address and acknowledge issues ?
I thought it was a rant from a Sun reader
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Originally Posted by
SLUDGE FACTORY
Are you saying this thread was about solutions and trying to address and acknowledge issues ?
I thought it was a rant from a Sun reader
So no solution then? No ideas? No proposals?
Lots of words, lots of virtue-signalling. No actual solution?
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invite them all in, give them shelter and safety and show them compassion.
then train them to drive an HGV.
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Rjk
invite them all in, give them shelter and safety and show them compassion.
then train them to drive an HGV.
And work in ticket offices at football clubs.
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Originally Posted by
Des Parrot
It’s a PR exercise, she’s got no power to turn them back in International waters. The French will not stop them leaving their waters and once they're over the dotted line they’re the UKs responsibility and since we left the EU we can no longer deport them
Your first four words should have been a thread closer Des.
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Originally Posted by
JamesWales
What's your solution? Or do you just ignore it and insult anyone with a different view or who tries to address and acknowledge issues?
What would you do?
And yes, this is a part of the global human trafficking trade. It absolutely is.
And no, not everyone arriving in boats is fleeing war.
And no, they aren't all good, honourable people. Some are. Some aren't. Most destroy ID so we have no idea.
There is a process and this isnt it.
We all know, just some are willing to address it, and some are happy with fingers in ears insulting people and shouting racist.
It’s not my job to come up with a solution is it but I’m not a callous pricks I wouldn’t turn them around at sea and send them back. I’d take them in and properly process them and then see what the best course of action is.
“Most” ripping up IDs etc shows the exact sort of bollocks you’ve been lapping up.
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Originally Posted by
the other bob wilson
Your first four words should be a thread closer Des.
Also she is a proper nasty **** so this attitude should be taken with everything that comes out of her mouth.
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Originally Posted by
Croesy Blue
It’s not my job to come up with a solution is it but I’m not a callous pricks I wouldn’t turn them around at sea and send them back. I’d take them in and properly process them and then see what the best course of action is.
“Most” ripping up IDs etc shows the exact sort of bollocks you’ve been lapping up.
Again..
Any proposal? NO
Personal Insult? YES
Virtue signal? RECEIVED
Problem solved? NO.
I sense you have no idea what is happening on the ground at all. Nor care.
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Originally Posted by
Croesy Blue
Also she is a proper nasty **** so this attitude should be taken with everything that comes out of her mouth.
Whereas the human traffickers friend here sounds like a right nice chap.
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Originally Posted by
JamesWales
People have different opinions about it.
On the one hand, it's allowing desperate people to leave France to come to the UK.
On the other its facilitating a global human trafficking programme that is one of the most obnoxious trades on earth.
The reality is it's both, but people should be able to talk about it without people shutting it down.
Personally, I think it's right to rescue people from warzones - we evacuated thousands from Afghanistan, and it's right to have a liberal immigration programme, but you cant just turn up and enter a country from another safe one. That isn't right, however much you want it.
so target the criminals, not the victims.
its ****ing shameful and Patel needs to have a long period of introspection.
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Originally Posted by
JamesWales
Again..
Any proposal? NO
Personal Insult? YES
Virtue signal? RECEIVED
Problem solved? NO.
I sense you have no idea what is happening on the ground at all. Nor care.
I literally said I don’t know how to solve the problem but treating asylum seekers like criminals and breaking my international law is not the way to go about it.
The fact you use a phrase like “virtue signalling” sums you up. How the **** can someone virtue signal anonymously? Which part of that is virtue signalling in your mind?
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Originally Posted by
Croesy Blue
If you think this is why they’re doing this I’ve got a bridge to sell you, you disingenuous c*nt.
:hehe:
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Originally Posted by
JamesWales
Whereas the human traffickers friend here sounds like a right nice chap.
Are the human traffickers here just the people supplying the boats for the asylum seekers or have you evidence of a different type of human trafficking going on in large numbers via boats on the channel?
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All reports say it's against Maritime Law
Don't see how it's ever going to be done
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Originally Posted by
JamesWales
So no solution then? No ideas? No proposals?
Lots of words, lots of virtue-signalling. No actual solution?
JW- The OP was being a bell-end. Now you are.
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Originally Posted by
Feedback
so target the criminals, not the victims.
its ****ing shameful and Patel needs to have a long period of introspection.
They are targeted.
But one of the ultimate ways to stop crime is to make it less profitable. Thats all it is. Its a trade in people who want to go to another country.
The naivity is incredible.
There are ways to help those in desperate need in the world. This isnt it.
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Originally Posted by
Divine Wright
JW- The OP was being a bell-end. Now you are.
No, I'm trying to have a sensible conversation with people who don't even acknowledge an issue. And then resort to insults.
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Can we just take a moment to appreciate someone thinks Pritti Patel is doing this as an act of goodness and compassion due to human trafficking :hehe:
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Originally Posted by
JamesWales
No, I'm trying to have a sensible conversation with people who don't even acknowledge an issue. And then resort to insults.
Na you’re being a disingenuous bell end
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Originally Posted by
life on mars
Sounds like the measures to joint measures to deal with this broke down with France on Wednesday .
I wonder if France has any interest in stopping this .
I am baffled why so many migrants travel through so many wonderful Europe countries to get to us, many say we treat folk dreadfully ??
The mayor of Calais summed it up for me when interviewed a month or so ago ( "if you didn't make it so inviting they would not cross" ) so it begs the question how are they treated on mainland Europe and France , what don't they get in France that forces them to our shores , are they treated that badly , are they victimised ??
What the French do is intercept the boats in the channel and then escort them further across, leaving them in British waters for us to deal with. All they are interested in is getting rid.
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Originally Posted by
Croesy Blue
Can we just take a moment to appreciate someone thinks Pritti Patel is doing this as an act of goodness and compassion due to human trafficking :hehe:
So come on then, what would you do about it. Let everyone in, no matter who they are, terrorist or otherwise ?
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Originally Posted by
Croesy Blue
Are the human traffickers here just the people supplying the boats for the asylum seekers or have you evidence of a different type of human trafficking going on in large numbers via boats on the channel?
Slavery, mafia, human trafficking, selling lies to migrants, no controls or ID over who enters.
It's a trade in human misery and it needs stopping.
Stop dancing to the traffickers tune. There are ways to migrate to a country and this isn't it.
https://www.theguardian.com/global-d...ts-uk-security
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Originally Posted by
JamesWales
Slavery, mafia, human trafficking, selling lies to migrants, no controls or ID over who enters.
It's a trade in human misery and it needs stopping.
Stop dancing to the traffickers tune. There are ways to migrate to a country and this isn't it.
https://www.theguardian.com/global-d...ts-uk-security
That says the traffickers are moving asylum seekers.
How does stopping them in the middle of the sea even change anything?
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Originally Posted by
dml1954
So come on then, what would you do about it. Let everyone in, no matter who they are, terrorist or otherwise ?
No you process them for asylum and then decide if you let them in or not. Which is the legal and correct way to handle migrants trying to enter a country.