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The best 9/11 video that you are ever likely to see.
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Re: The best 9/11 video that you are ever likely to see.
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Originally Posted by
Splott Dave
That video is worth five minutes of anyone's time. Unless all those involved are psychopaths, it really is a wonder that they can look in the mirror. And it's them or people like them who are still wielding power.
I've spoken to quite a number of Yanks about 9-11. Those who engaged on the topic were convinced that their government organised it. I was struck by how much they loved the USA but hated their politicians, and how grimly determined they were to keep hold of their firearms. The ghettoised dindus have no clue but I think largely due to the internet a great many are acutely aware of the enemy within. I remember reading only a tiny percentage, 2%-3%, of American citizens took up arms versus British forces in the 1770s but still smashed the world's best trained army.
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Re: The best 9/11 video that you are ever likely to see.
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Originally Posted by
Splott Dave
There is no " best of 9/11 video " regarding that tragic event , I feel sorry for all the victims families who have to listen to the endless conspiracy theories, which has no hard fact. ,and in my opinion bloody barmy.
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You obviously didn't watch the video 'cos it's jam-packed with facts. What it didn't say is there's now over 2,000 architects and engineers who say those three buildings must have been brought down by controlled explosions. They have all risked their reputations and lives. Do you think they are barmy too?
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Organ Morgan.
You obviously didn't watch the video 'cos it's jam-packed with facts. What it didn't say is there's now over 2,000 architects and engineers who say those three buildings must have been brought down by controlled explosions. They have all risked their reputations and lives. Do you think they are barmy too?
So 2000 architects and engineers,none of whom have risked their lives btw,of unknown quality and experience have said the buildings were demolished leaving how many hundreds of thousands who disagree?
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Originally Posted by
life on mars
There is no " best of 9/11 video " regarding that tragic event , I feel sorry for all the victims families who have to listen to the endless conspiracy theories, which has no hard fact. ,and in my opinion bloody barmy.
I believe some of those victims families have been disputing their government in court.
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Originally Posted by
goslow
So 2000 architects and engineers,none of whom have risked their lives btw,of unknown quality and experience have said the buildings were demolished leaving how many hundreds of thousands who disagree?
Unknown quality? Check-out their quality for yourself. The natural laws of physics are on their side. Building 7, which wasn't hit by anything, also collapsed into its own footprint. It would be absurd if it wasn't so serious. The enquiry into that concluded burning office furniture was the cause. That's the one the BBC said had fallen when it was still clearly standing in the background.
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Re: The best 9/11 video that you are ever likely to see.
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Originally Posted by
Organ Morgan.
Unknown quality? Check-out their quality for yourself. The natural laws of physics are on their side. Building 7, which wasn't hit by anything, also collapsed into its own footprint. It would be absurd if it wasn't so serious. The enquiry into that concluded burning office furniture was the cause. That's the one the BBC said had fallen when it was still clearly standing in the background.
If you are going to have a conspiracy of blowing up a building, why would you bother to tell a news agency before it had blown up(adding another group of people into the conspiracy)?
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Originally Posted by
TruBlue
If you are going to have a conspiracy of blowing up a building, why would you bother to tell a news agency before it had blown up(adding another group of people into the conspiracy)?
There's a lot of cause to be suspicious. The the building 7 BBC bit doesn't add to the cause. The wider the web of people who were "in on it" gets the more implausible a valid conspiracy becomes.
The vid in the OP revisits questions that a lot of people have had from day one though. Are there any valid answers out that disqualify these questions?
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Re: The best 9/11 video that you are ever likely to see.
No, shills don't bother trying to rebutt the evidence because it's so overwhelming.
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Originally Posted by
TruBlue
If you are going to have a conspiracy of blowing up a building, why would you bother to tell a news agency before it had blown up(adding another group of people into the conspiracy)?
I presume they were reading the false info on a news feed or hearing it relayed through a earphone.
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Organ Morgan.
I presume they were reading the false info on a news feed or hearing it relayed through a earphone.
So more people having to put out false information.
You aren't a stupid bloke, so please explain why they would bother risking more people finding out, if the building is about to blow up, why not just let normal news channels filter the news through without releasing it early?
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Originally Posted by
TruBlue
If you are going to have a conspiracy of blowing up a building, why would you bother to tell a news agency before it had blown up(adding another group of people into the conspiracy)?
Instead of spending years on here disputing every item that comes up, why don't you get off your arse and do some proper research for yourself?
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Splott Dave
Instead of spending years on here disputing every item that comes up, why don't you get off your arse and do some proper research for yourself?
I've never ever found an answer to the question that doesn't fall apart. Hence why I'm asking.
Feel free to tell me what benefit you think there could be to have a whole load of additional people in on it?
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TruBlue
I've never ever found an answer to the question that doesn't fall apart. Hence why I'm asking.
Feel free to tell me what benefit you think there could be to have a whole load of additional people in on it?
Why does there have to be a 'whole lot of additional people in on it'? Ugandan government was overthrown by just twelve people. The Russian aristocracy was done away with by a small group of people who were financed from New York.
You claim to have not 'found an answer to the question that doesn't fall apart'. How hard do you look? Because this seems to be a repeating theme and pattern with you for the last five years to my certain knowledge, on one event or incident after another.
The independent investigative journalist Christopher Bollyn has written extensively on the subject of 9/11, his finding were featured on here some years ago. I seem to remember you expressing the same doubts then, without any form of explanation as to why you had those doubts. Some three years later, are you able to explain now where his investigation falls apart?
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Re: The best 9/11 video that you are ever likely to see.
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Originally Posted by
Mrs Steve R
Deja vu
:hehe: cant see it reaching the heights of the old one though
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Originally Posted by
Packerman
:hehe: cant see it reaching the heights of the old one though
:hehe: Not sure if that's a good or bad thing.
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Re: The best 9/11 video that you are ever likely to see.
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Originally Posted by
Mrs Steve R
:hehe: Not sure if that's a good or bad thing.
If you don't bang the cage now and again the budgies won't fly...:hehe::hehe::hehe:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJDMaAb1gsc
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Splott Dave
I never ever bang my parrots cage, it just scares her, I prefer to build up trust and let her come out when she's ready. :hehe:
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Re: The best 9/11 video that you are ever likely to see.
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Mrs Steve R
I never ever bang my parrots cage, it just scares her, I prefer to build up trust and let her come out when she's ready. :hehe:
Sounds to me (I'm no expert on parrots by the way) like she would be a lot more trusting if she got a good banging now and again...:hehe:
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Originally Posted by
Splott Dave
Sounds to me (I'm no expert on parrots by the way) like she would be a lot more trusting if she got a good banging now and again...:hehe:
A good banging now and again might work for us but it does not work with parrots :hehe:
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Re: The best 9/11 video that you are ever likely to see.
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Originally Posted by
Mrs Steve R
A good banging now and again might work for us but it does not work with parrots :hehe:
Bad enough you keeping her in a cage, but keeping her in Barry is just plain cruelty.
Here's a song to cheer your parrot up...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGRZMz9ueb8
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Re: The best 9/11 video that you are ever likely to see.
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Originally Posted by
Splott Dave
Why does there have to be a 'whole lot of additional people in on it'? Ugandan government was overthrown by just twelve people. The Russian aristocracy was done away with by a small group of people who were financed from New York.
You claim to have not 'found an answer to the question that doesn't fall apart'. How hard do you look? Because this seems to be a repeating theme and pattern with you for the last five years to my certain knowledge, on one event or incident after another.
The independent investigative journalist Christopher Bollyn has written extensively on the subject of 9/11, his finding were featured on here some years ago. I seem to remember you expressing the same doubts then, without any form of explanation as to why you had those doubts. Some three years later, are you able to explain now where his investigation falls apart?
For every website you present me with I can find you one that refutes the evidence. Even if investigative anti Semites likes Bollyn did write them.
For that reason I was asking Organ personally, why he thought there would be any benefit in releasing a script that all of a sudden by default implicates a whole load more people into the conspiracy?
It's a simple question that appears to have got you all defensive, despite me not actually asking you originally. Feel free to answer though (your own thoughts, not those of any Ugandans, if you don't mind).
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Re: The best 9/11 video that you are ever likely to see.
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Originally Posted by
TruBlue
For every website you present me with I can find you one that refutes the evidence. Even if investigative anti Semites likes Bollyn did write them.
For that reason I was asking Organ personally, why he thought there would be any benefit in releasing a script that all of a sudden by default implicates a whole load more people into the conspiracy?
It's a simple question that appears to have got you all defensive, despite me not actually asking you originally. Feel free to answer though (your own thoughts, not those of any Ugandans, if you don't mind).
"For every website you present me with I can find you one that refutes the evidence"
Why haven't you presented them then? I've never seen you present one link ever which has a countervailing view to any link that I have provided. Calling Bollyn an 'anti-Semite' is just a meaningless political slur, one that ignores his investigations, evidence and information that he collected and researched over a considerable period of time.
Show me one example of how you can refute Bollyn's investigations into 9/11? Show me one example which refutes the video in the original link?
It's a matter of public record that Larry Silverstein agreed with the New York Fire Dept to 'pull the building', that was the initial reason given for its collapse. It was that conversation that was relayed to the news agencies at the time, which included the BBC staff at the scene.
It was only much later when the speed of the building's descent was properly analysed, that it became obvious that the demolition was one that was well planned in advance, as it fell perfectly into its own footprint, at perfect free fall speed, as only a planned demolition could.
Silverstein is linked to Frank Lowery (ex-terrorist) and Ronnie Lauder (Estee Lauder) all three are avowed Zionists and all three are billionaires. Lauder arranged the sale of the Twin Towers to Lowery and Siverstein in the first place.
Had you been paying attention, you would have noticed that this is the same Ronnie Lauder who was linked to the Israeli former intelligence officer, who is married to the German celebrity actor/reporter who just happened to be at Nice and Munich 'terrorist' attacks a few weeks ago.
If this had been three Arab Muslim billionaires who were all connected and involved, the cries to lynch them would have reverberated half way around the globe.
Conspiracies exist TB as a fact of life unfortunately. We're finding out more and more about the conspiracies to topple Gaddafi as emails are revealed which were not available some years ago. In the same way the conspiracy to artificially create groups of 'moderate rebels' in Syria, on the basis that it worked in Libya, so why not in Syria, is becoming more and more obvious by the week.
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Re: The best 9/11 video that you are ever likely to see.
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Splott Dave
"For every website you present me with I can find you one that refutes the evidence"
Why haven't you presented them then? I've never seen you present one link ever which has a countervailing view to any link that I have provided. Calling Bollyn an 'anti-Semite' is just a meaningless political slur, one that ignores his investigations, evidence and information that he collected and researched over a considerable period of time.
Show me one example of how you can refute Bollyn's investigations into 9/11? Show me one example which refutes the video in the original link?
It's a matter of public record that Larry Silverstein agreed with the New York Fire Dept to 'pull the building', that was the initial reason given for its collapse. It was that conversation that was relayed to the news agencies at the time, which included the BBC staff at the scene.
It was only much later when the speed of the building's descent was properly analysed, that it became obvious that the demolition was one that was well planned in advance, as it fell perfectly into its own footprint, at perfect free fall speed, as only a planned demolition could.
Silverstein is linked to Frank Lowery (ex-terrorist) and Ronnie Lauder (Estee Lauder) all three are avowed Zionists and all three are billionaires. Lauder arranged the sale of the Twin Towers to Lowery and Siverstein in the first place.
Had you been paying attention, you would have noticed that this is the same Ronnie Lauder who was linked to the Israeli former intelligence officer, who is married to the German celebrity actor/reporter who just happened to be at Nice and Munich 'terrorist' attacks a few weeks ago.
If this had been three Arab Muslim billionaires who were all connected and involved, the cries to lynch them would have reverberated half way around the globe.
Conspiracies exist TB as a fact of life unfortunately. We're finding out more and more about the conspiracies to topple Gaddafi as emails are revealed which were not available some years ago. In the same way the conspiracy to artificially create groups of 'moderate rebels' in Syria, on the basis that it worked in Libya, so why not in Syria, is becoming more and more obvious by the week.
What would be the point, unless they are full of anti Jewish sentiment you'd dismiss them instantly.
Here is an idea, next time there is some sort of world terrorist event. I'll guess your opinion within hours of it happening.
Don't post your thoughts on here but I'll post what I think you think the reasoning will be?
It's impossible for me to know your thoughts, after all you have an open and inquisitive mind.
P.S. Seems your boy is a bit of a shill - http://www.takeourworldback.com/bollynfalseflag.htm
Is that how you know him? :biggrin:
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TruBlue
What would be the point, unless they are full of anti Jewish sentiment you'd dismiss them instantly.
Here is an idea, next time there is some sort of world terrorist event. I'll guess your opinion within hours of it happening.
Don't post your thoughts on here but I'll post what I think you think the reasoning will be?
It's impossible for me to know your thoughts, after all you have an open and inquisitive mind.
P.S. Seems your boy is a bit of a shill -
http://www.takeourworldback.com/bollynfalseflag.htm
Is that how you know him? :biggrin:
I wasn't asking you for whataboutery. Just deal with the questions that you were asked, and the information that you have been given.
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Splott Dave
I wasn't asking you for whataboutery. Just deal with the questions that you were asked, and the information that you have been given.
Once you do me the deceny of answering my question(which I asked beforehand), I'll do you the decency of answering yours.. :thumbup:
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TruBlue
Once you do me the deceny of answering my question(which I asked beforehand), I'll do you the decency of answering yours.. :thumbup:
You quite obviously have not read your own links. I seem to remember that was a regular occurrence some years ago.
'It was not Muslims'
http://www.takeourworldback.com/itwasntmuslims.htm
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Splott Dave
That site isn't relevant for 9/11 just your mate Bollyn. Kind of like picking and choosing when to trust the BBC.......
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I've never seen you present one link
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You quite obviously have not read your own links. I seem to remember that was a regular occurrence some years ago.
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If I remember it was you that got caught not reading the links posted. You were so quick to try and shut down someone elses opinion you got the wrong end of the stick regarding the news story and went off on a tangent as to why it was wrong.
I remember you back peddling like hell once it was pointed out you'd clearly not read the link despite claiming to have.
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Silverstein is linked to Frank Lowery (ex-terrorist) and Ronnie Lauder (Estee Lauder) all three are avowed Zionists and all three are billionaires. Lauder arranged the sale of the Twin Towers to Lowery and Siverstein in the first place.
Had you been paying attention, you would have noticed that this is the same Ronnie Lauder who was linked to the Israeli former intelligence officer, who is married to the German celebrity actor/reporter who just happened to be at Nice and Munich 'terrorist' attacks a few weeks ago.
So I was right all along.
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Re: The best 9/11 video that you are ever likely to see.
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Originally Posted by
Organ Morgan.
Unknown quality? Check-out their quality for yourself. The natural laws of physics are on their side. Building 7, which wasn't hit by anything, also collapsed into its own footprint. It would be absurd if it wasn't so serious. The enquiry into that concluded burning office furniture was the cause. That's the one the BBC said had fallen when it was still clearly standing in the background.
Why did the towers have to collapse,why wasn't flying planes into them enough?
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TruBlue
That site isn't relevant for 9/11 just your mate Bollyn. Kind of like picking and choosing when to trust the BBC.......
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If I remember it was you that got caught not reading the links posted. You were so quick to try and shut down someone elses opinion you got the wrong end of the stick regarding the news story and went off on a tangent as to why it was wrong.
I remember you back peddling like hell once it was pointed out you'd clearly not read the link despite claiming to have.
You have presented an article that has nothing whatsoever to do with 9/11. One link, among dozens, points out the bleeding obvious that no Muslims were involved in anything to do with the clear up and removal of debris. You are still ignoring the evidence presented in the video and I can only assume that because it is a chronological accurate account of what took place and when it took place, you find no fault with it.
Likewise with the Chris Bollyn research on 9/11, you denounce Bollyn with the political smear of being an 'anti-Semite,' which totally deflects from his actual research into 9/11.
You're not able to find fault with that research as you were not able to find fault with it when we last had this conversation some four years ago.
I would have thought the intervening period of time would have least have seen you becoming more knowledgeable on the subject, able to impart that knowledge in a debate, rather than scurry around looking at ways to get involved in deflection, character assassination, and political smears against Bollyn. Who when all is said and done, is someone who has produced an authoritative and comprehensive account for 9/11.
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Originally Posted by
Splott Dave
You have presented an article that has nothing whatsoever to do with 9/11. One link, among dozens, points out the bleeding obvious that no Muslims were involved in anything to do with the clear up and removal of debris. You are still ignoring the evidence presented in the video and I can only assume that because it is a chronological accurate account of what took place and when it took place, you find no fault with it.
Likewise with the Chris Bollyn research on 9/11, you denounce Bollyn with the political smear of being an 'anti-Semite,' which totally deflects from his actual research into 9/11.
You're not able to find fault with that research as you were not able to find fault with it when we last had this conversation some four years ago.
I would have thought the intervening period of time would have least have seen you becoming more knowledgeable on the subject, able to impart that knowledge in a debate, rather than scurry around looking at ways to get involved in deflection, character assassination, and political smears against Bollyn. Who when all is said and done, is someone who has produced an authoritative and comprehensive account for 9/11.
They certainly aren't "authoritative". The link was meant to rubbish your boy. How can you trust an author with so many questions hanging over his head? Isn't he on the run? Are you in the habit of trusting wanted criminals? What next 101 ways to clear a cold by Dr Harold Shipman....
I tried to get into a "debate" with you but you refuse to answer a simple question. How can I "debate" with someone like that. If I'm honest you don't really want someone to debate with, just someone to reply so you can keep pushing your jewhunter agenda. For that you should be grateful to me as I often help you out. :thumbup:
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TruBlue
They certainly aren't "authoritative". The link was meant to rubbish your boy. How can you trust an author with so many questions hanging over his head? Isn't he on the run? Are you in the habit of trusting wanted criminals? What next 101 ways to clear a cold by Dr Harold Shipman....
I tried to get into a "debate" with you but you refuse to answer a simple question. How can I "debate" with someone like that. If I'm honest you don't really want someone to debate with, just someone to reply so you can keep pushing your jewhunter agenda. For that you should be grateful to me as I often help you out. :thumbup:
You've cited a document which is un-attributable. It makes a series of claims, allegations and recounts supposed events none of which can be verified, none of which were worth the author revealing his/her name.
What am I supposed to do with it?
You decided to enter this thread. The topic is clearly titled, the information is all there for you. All you have to do is provide your own views and refrain from giving out Dr Shipman's cold recipes, unless you want to start a whole new thread about mass murderers, which will only result in me offering a few of the Zionist persuasion...:hehe:
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Splott Dave
You've cited a document which is un-attributable. It makes a series of claims, allegations and recounts supposed events none of which can be verified, none of which were worth the author revealing his/her name.
What am I supposed to do with it?
You decided to enter this thread. The topic is clearly titled, the information is all there for you. All you have to do is provide your own views and refrain from giving out Dr Shipman's cold recipes, unless you want to start a whole new thread about mass murderers, which will only result in me offering a few of the Zionist persuasion...:hehe:
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Are you pissed? I've been asking for both yours and Organs "own views" on the point about feeding building 7 to newsreaders early all thread, but you keep avoiding it going on about Ugandans some bloke on the run.
I'll ask again "Why do you think they would bother getting more people involved into a conspiracy by releasing news info early, rather than just let it release itself once it fell?"
"All you have to do is provide your own views...."
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TruBlue
If you are going to have a conspiracy of blowing up a building, why would you bother to tell a news agency before it had blown up(adding another group of people into the conspiracy)?
If you want to keep a secret, it's not the number of people you share it with that matters, it's the quality of those people, so I would imagine a rigorous vetting process is in place :thumbup:
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Wales-Bales
If you want to keep a secret, it's not the number of people you share it with that matters, it's the quality of those people, so I would imagine a rigorous vetting process is in place :thumbup:
You were probably off shagging Cindy Crawford that week mate, but did you miss the fact that one of these "vetted" people must've told the BBC early (apparently). :facepalm:
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TruBlue
You were probably off shagging Cindy Crawford that week mate, but did you miss the fact that one of these "vetted" people must've told the BBC early (apparently). :facepalm:
If it was a setup, I don't think they would include anybody who wasn't on their team :hehe: If it was just a coincidence, then their equipment was probably faulty :thumbup: