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Silly gag, but OTT reaction?
A ridiculous reaction. I didn't even know that 'er in doors grandparents were black and it wouldn't have registered with me even if I knew they were.
I liked the Danny Baker show as well.
Shame really. His shows were class and to be honest, he’d have put that down for any posh birth no matter the colour as that’s the sort of humour he uses/has. It didn’t even occur to me that the baby is mixed race. I don’t give a shit about the royals, and I’m sure he was just trying to get a quick laugh, but it was one that got him a quick exit.
When I first saw what he posted yesterday I was sure he’d be sacked. He says he didn’t mean anything racist by it and just meant the royals were circus animals in suits. Seems a bit harsh if he’s being genuine with that.
I think he's genuine, but completely ****ing stupid if he didn't foresee the reaction.
Wont be too long before Talk Sport come knocking at his door with a contract in hand.
Hes too talented a broadcaster not to be on air.
He uses monkeys in suits as a gag quite regularly, so its hardly like he's only done it because Markle has black heritage, seems an honest mistake
The BBC sacking him so quickly gives the impression they've been waiting for an excuse for a while now, the ultimate irony of the BBC's hardline stance against racism is that Nigel Farage is on Question Time AGAIN tonight
I like Danny Baker and believe he has just been very stupid rather than anything more sinister than that, but I know myself well enough to realise that I would be demanding some right wing shock jock be sacked straight away if they had posted the same tweet - he had to go.
I’m of mixed race, and after the reaction on here yesterday to a throw away quip I posted I’m not in the least bit surprised at today’s events.
It seems ok to joke about Ginger people, the Irish being thick, the Scots being tight, Jimmy Saville etc. We really are in danger of disappearing up our own arses.
Thousands of people would have got txts like that tweet on their phones.
The difference between attempted humour, and being a real hateful racist are oceans apart.
The difference is between those jokes you’ve highlighted (except the stupid Irish ones) is they’ve not been used for decades as a way to keep people of other races down and then say “it’s only a joke”. There’s a good reason you can’t tell a racist joke these days.
Also the problem is they aren’t funny any either, the people who complain about not being able to tell these shit jokes are people who are too stupid to be funny without it.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...key-image.html
I'm with him as far as his reaction goes if he was really told that he meant it as a racist post - surely nobody with such a high profile in his sort of job would send out what they knew to be racist tweets? It'd be career suicide.
I like Baker, I don't think it was his intention to be racist. Monkeys in suits is a fairly regular joke he makes on his Twitter feed about celebrities, it had nothing to do with Markle's ethnicity/heritage. He's done something stupid that I don't think he should have been sacked for, he later apologised and deleted the tweet.
I just think its ironic for the BBC to sack Baker for what they see as being racist but continue to provide Farage et al with a platform to spout their shite
I've heard him mention it quite a few times on his radio shows and thought of it straight away when I first heard about the tweet he sent.
He acknowledges himself that he knew he was going to be sacked in that Daily Mail article and so I struggle to see how the BBC could have, say, let him off with a warning.
He's a unique act even if he is very fond of himself...........and obviously a bit dim if he thought he was ever going to get away with that type of comment in the 2010's.
This is how society is becoming. People who lack the intelligence to understand the comparison he was making (not related to race, just having a dig at the monarchy) scream their faux outrage and someone loses their job. At least I now have no reason at all to engage with the BBC, his show was the only thing left of any interest.
How is any of that relevant unless he intended it to be racist though? It either isn’t meant to be racist and I could see how that could be funny or it was meant as black baby is a chimp, how would that be funny?
The problem is that a lot of people disguise their deep rooted hateful racism as jokes, it’s how a lot of propaganda can be spread. Look at the effect of 4chan and 8chan on racism online and especially in the US.
I don’t he intended to be racist and think his sacking is harsh. But that doesn’t mean racist jokes aren’t bad.
Totally agree here. Hope he get's reacquainted with Danny Kelly again. The pair of them had the best show ever on radio 5 Live. Think he had the sack from there before for encouraging Spurs supporters to throw their football programmes on the pitch. I can't think why this was though...Anyone with a better memory than me?
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...cup-team-tweet
Baker has been very stupid at best and racist at worst, but if he got sacked how the hell did Sugar get away with this?
Poor judgement ,rightly sacked .
I would want to be satisfied that someone intended a tweet or similar to be racist before sacking someone. The vast majority of people do not associate members of the ape family with human beings of a any race and it seems to me that we are in danger of perceiving the minority view (i.e. that of racists) as being some kind of norm by which we are now measured.
We don’t seem to care about intent with something like this these days for some reason, we just want to see people get sacked and never hear from them again.
Is comparing black people being monkeys a racist trope? Yes. Did he mean this? Almost definitely not.
The Jon Ronson book “so you’ve been publicly shamed” is a really good book about this very subject.
Ah, the original 606, all those years ago, what a brilliant after game programme. He’s also part of my fairly recent Saturday mornings, Brian Mathew (Sound of the 60s), then turn over for The Danny Baker Show followed by Fighting Talk. Days sadly gone now.
If you have seen the stock photograph he has captioned. I have.
The humour is about the clothing the royal baby is wearing.
My guess is Danny had been on the Gin.
It is funny but not in the cold light of day.
Snowflakes.
my daughter discussed this today in school in her " personal development and social issues " class, she is doing her GCSE's at the mo and personally i think that 1 hour 15 mins would have been spent slightly more productively than that, but hey ho
29 children in ( aged 15 or 16 ) her class contains 9 or 10 who find everything offensive ( her words ) not a single person thought it was racist, not one, maybe we do have hope for the future and this next generation might not be like the last
as for my point of view, of course he didnt mean it as a racist post, i saw the post and thought he was poking fun at the " privileged " life the baby will have, the bowler hat and upper class attire made me think that
The baby's greatgrandfather has said far worse in his life time,and got away with it.
Jesus what a load of old shite :hehe:Quote:
9 or 10 who find everything offensive ( her words )
Not realising it might be interpreted as a racist comment. Seems quite like a footballer not knowing what a nazi salute is!!!!
I think a lot of the reaction from the BBC was with regard to the interpretation our american cousins might put on the remark and whether it was allowed to go unchallenged. It would be far more offensive there.
But why was he idiotic? Because some cretinous racists make such an association whereas normal, rational and fair-minded people don't? The situation means that the racists have won in establishing a link that they have forged in their twisted minds into an association now adopted by the mainstream. That is hugely concerning.
Was PG Tips a racist advert? Was my mate's pet monkey a racist toy? The pitchfork society is taking over and with a warped agenda.
He should sue his employers for wrongful dismissal.
I was hoping that Archie would be much darker, similar to Sadio Mané. That would have been way more inclusive and progressive than having a barely-black baby.
It'll be unfair dismissal, but I doubt he'd succeed. 'Behavior outside the workplace ' is a key contract clause for those in the public domain. I've got a lot of sympathy for Baker. I seriously doubt it was intended to be racist. This is probably a poor metaphor, but if a black player found a banana skin thrown at him, that would be a dreadfully offensive and racist action. If a bloke was eating a banana in the crowd and tried to throw the skin into a bin closer to the touchline and it went onto the pitch, the effect would be the same but without the intent.
Anyway, I'm constantly amazed why the world and his daughter - especially those in the media/sports/political fields - find it important to spend their lives updating everyone else with their action and thoughts by the minute. I'm quite happy on here, being kept in check by Morris & Co...