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Fawlty Towers to return
John Cleese and his daughter have agreed to make a new series of Fawlty Towers to be made by Castle Rock Entertainment, this time set in a boutique hotel.
Not sure that they will be able to match the original but we shall see.
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Originally Posted by
Elwood Blues
John Cleese and his daughter have agreed to make a new series of Fawlty Towers to be made by Castle Rock Entertainment, this time set in a boutique hotel.
Not sure that they will be able to match the original but we shall see.
Some things should be left alone.
Classic sitcoms being on of them IMO.
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It will not be a patch on the original, the modern world does not allow real humour to be either written, filmed or screened. Plus it can only be the Mr Cleese could do with a boost to his bank balance.
There are very few examples of reprises matching the originals...
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Times have changed and much of the comedy in the original was of its time, so cant be replicated.
I hope they don't come to regret remaking it,but time will tell.
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blue lewj
Some things should be left alone.
Classic sitcoms being on of them IMO.
Yes, very few manage to retain their original charm, sitcoms in general seem to have a more limited longevity than drama for example, once you've extracted all the humour out of your original premise then it's difficult to just keep on going without it becoming predictable or ridiculous
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The Prophet of Doom
It will not be a patch on the original, the modern world does not allow real humour to be either written, filmed or screened. Plus it can only be the Mr Cleese could do with a boost to his bank balance.
There are very few examples of reprises matching the originals...
And yet here you are writing this absolute joke
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Rjk
Yes, very few manage to retain their original charm, sitcoms in general seem to have a more limited longevity than drama for example, once you've extracted all the humour out of your original premise then it's difficult to just keep on going without it becoming predictable or ridiculous
Can you imagine the amount of complaints if some of the original episodes aired today?
Different times and while funny, the landscape has changed.
I think sitcoms like Faulty Towers would be all the poorer for it.
There would be outrage at the sign at the start reading Flowery Tw@ts before any actual scenes had been shown.
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Rjk
And yet here you are writing this absolute joke
Sorry RJK I was under the impression that the forum and message board was for people to write about things and express their views. I will return to observance from now on, suitably chastised.
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blue lewj
Can you imagine the amount of complaints if some of the original episodes aired today?
Different times and while funny, the landscape has changed.
I think sitcoms like Faulty Towers would be all the poorer for it.
There would be outrage at the sign at the start reading Flowery Tw@ts before any actual scenes had been shown.
Yes things have changed in the last 40 years, but that doesn't mean you cant still be funny - it'll need to adapt to modern sensibilities if it is going to be a success, if it just tries to be exactly like the original it'll be crap, but a few grumpy old men would have to find something else to moan about
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The Prophet of Doom
Sorry RJK I was under the impression that the forum and message board was for people to write about things and express their views. I will return to observance from now on, suitably chastised.
You expressed your view, I expressed mine. :shrug:
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Rjk
You expressed your view, I expressed mine. :shrug:
Indeed, but I think describing my message as an "absolute joke" was somewhat harsh.
However, life is too short and there are far too many other things to be concerned about.
I am crawling back under my rock.
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The Prophet of Doom
Indeed, but I think describing my message as an "absolute joke" was somewhat harsh.
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However, life is too short and there are far too many other things to be concerned about.
I am crawling back under my rock.
Sorry, it seems the modern world really doesn't allow real humour to be written, filmed or screened - you were right the entire time
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Rjk
Sorry, it seems the modern world really doesn't allow real humour to be written, filmed or screened - you were right the entire time
Touche! (I think that is how you spell it) - and I see your point.
I'll stay just outside my rock if that's OK?
Cheers.
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The Prophet of Doom
Touche! (I think that is how you spell it) - and I see your point.
I'll stay just outside my rock if that's OK?
Cheers.
:hehe: :thumbup:
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Rjk
:hehe: :thumbup:
:thumbup: indeed!
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Cleese used to play Basil Fawlty. Now he is Basil Fawlty (but not as funny).
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It seemed like Fawlty Towers had been around for ages but I was surprised to learn that there were only ever 12 episodes made
Probably all the repeats from the good old BBC 🤔
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So the guy who complains he's not on telly anymore, finally gets his chance and comes up with quite an original concept.
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blue lewj
Some things should be left alone.
Classic sitcoms being on of them IMO.
Classic example. Still Open All Hours. David Jason’s worst ever.
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Sunnysideup
It seemed like Fawlty Towers had been around for ages but I was surprised to learn that there were only ever 12 episodes made
Probably all the repeats from the good old BBC 🤔
I was surprised to learn he was only 37 when they were making it. I had him much older!
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Elwood Blues
John Cleese and his daughter have agreed to make a new series of Fawlty Towers to be made by Castle Rock Entertainment, this time set in a boutique hotel.
Not sure that they will be able to match the original but we shall see.
Overrated anyway, not a patch on Only fools and horses.
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North Cardiff Blue
Overrated anyway, not a patch on Only fools and horses.
Only Fools and Horses went on far too long.
It got poor at the end.
Also Fawley Towers different league in my opinion.
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Only Fools and Horses was probably the best British comedy series ever made
Absolutely hilarious
Jolly Boys Outing was a classic
Delboy entering Rodney into a competition which he won and the prize was a holiday in Spain
He had to pretend he was a kid then winning the Spanish lottery
Genius script writing
Everyone has got their favourites and your able to watch over and over again
Timeless classic comedy at its best 🤩
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North Cardiff Blue
Overrated anyway, not a patch on Only fools and horses.
Crap towards the end, should have finished well before its slow death. Fawlty Towers timeline was spot on and, while Only Fools and Horses was funny, it was nowhere near the class of Fawlty Towers. I’ve watched repeats of Fools and Horses and enjoyed the jokes as much as I enjoy listening to a favourite song, I know all the words. With Fawlty Towers repeats, I’ve noticed little funny scenarios going on in the background that I hadn’t noticed before, genius.
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Sunnysideup
Only Fools and Horses was probably the best British comedy series ever made
Absolutely hilarious
Jolly Boys Outing was a classic
Delboy entering Rodney into a competition which he won and the prize was a holiday in Spain
He had to pretend he was a kid then winning the Spanish lottery
Genius script writing
Everyone has got their favourites and your able to watch over and over again
Timeless classic comedy at its best
I think it was predictable and unsophisticated pleb fodder of the highest order.
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The new FT might be alright but its biggest issue will be coming up against 50 year aura that's built up around it.
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I would put Only Fools and Horses in the same bracket as "til death us do part" or "Reggie Perrin".
Decent story lines easy watching, laughter occasionally but dated.
FT was not only the best situation comedy of its time it has also stood the test of time and is still brilliant.
It's a risk to try and continue from where they left off, In sickness and in Health was an example of not living up to the hype, just hope the writing of this new series is as good as the originals.
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John Cleese is a daft old daily mail racist these days
It will flop
Last of the summer wine ...another load of old cobblers
Only fools and horses was tripe , canned laughter
Fawlty Towers was immense for its time
Just 12 episodes ?
Same as The Office
Series after Series of the same old stuff
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The Prophet of Doom
Indeed, but I think describing my message as an "absolute joke" was somewhat harsh.
However, life is too short and there are far too many other things to be concerned about.
I am crawling back under my rock.
Ironic, you don’t think Fawlty Towers could be made today because people would complain and yet apparently you’re the wetwipe
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I never got Monty Python?
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You’ll have to go a long way, to beat this
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=niHr5jXEpNE
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Before my time but I loved it in the way I didn't like much of the stuff my Dad used to like. Obviously some of the tone and fashions change but I actually think it's pretty timeless often slapstick comedy.
Huge risk to bring it back but will be interesting.
The guardian have already decided to make a culture war issue of it of course but Im certain there will be real interest in it when it comes out.
https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-r...ea-john-cleese
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Elwood Blues
John Cleese and his daughter have agreed to make a new series of Fawlty Towers to be made by Castle Rock Entertainment, this time set in a boutique hotel.
Not sure that they will be able to match the original but we shall see.
What a woke this will be
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I never got Monty Python?
Is that really a question?
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Trying to think of what the best attempt at a comedy reboot would be:
I've not seen much of them, but I think the Red Dwarf reboot is generally quite well received by red dwarf fans - although not as beloved as the original series, and that has the whole sci-fi angle as well, which gives it a lot more opportunity to take it in new directions.
Arrested development was an incredible series, that didn't get anywhere near enough recognition, the reboot they did on netflix was kinda similar, just missing something. I loved the original series, I don't think I even watched the netflix one until the end.
I supose likely lads / whatever happened to the likely lads is probably a good example of a successful reboot - any others?
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Not a question but a statement
Monty Python wasn’t funny but ridiculous
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Rjk
Trying to think of what the best attempt at a comedy reboot would be:
I've not seen much of them, but I think the Red Dwarf reboot is generally quite well received by red dwarf fans - although not as beloved as the original series, and that has the whole sci-fi angle as well, which gives it a lot more opportunity to take it in new directions.
Arrested development was an incredible series, that didn't get anywhere near enough recognition, the reboot they did on netflix was kinda similar, just missing something. I loved the original series, I don't think I even watched the netflix one until the end.
I supose likely lads / whatever happened to the likely lads is probably a good example of a successful reboot - any others?
Men behaving badly rebooted after a bad first series and improved a lot.
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JamesWales
Before my time but I loved it in the way I didn't like much of the stuff my Dad used to like. Obviously some of the tone and fashions change but I actually think it's pretty timeless often slapstick comedy.
Huge risk to bring it back but will be interesting.
The guardian have already decided to make a culture war issue of it of course but Im certain there will be real interest in it when it comes out.
https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-r...ea-john-cleese
You would say it's the Grauniad's fault.
It has a point and one I said this morning to Mrs HaB before even being aware of the article.
What has Cleese done in comedy in the last 30 years? Very little. What do we know of Cleese in recent years other than his bizarre, out of touch rants on Twitter and in the media? Is he still capable of writing a sitcom? The feat must be that it turns out like his out of touch rants and ends up only appealing to right wing men over 50.
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Eric the Half a Bee
You would say it's the Grauniad's fault.
It has a point and one I said this morning to Mrs HaB before even being aware of the article.
What has Cleese done in comedy in the last 30 years? Very little. What do we know of Cleese in recent years other than his bizarre, out of touch rants on Twitter and in the media? Is he still capable of writing a sitcom? The feat must be that it turns out like his out of touch rants and ends up only appealing to right wing men over 50.
Just had a look on his twitter, and it seems a lot of the content on there these days is being very critical of the current tory government - I think that rather than Cleese having some sort of road to damascus conversion into a woke lefty it just goes to show the scale of the problem facing the Tories today.
If even someone like Cleese thinks they're all liars, incompetents and charlatans then they are going to get absolutely destroyed at the next election.
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jon1959
Rhetorical?