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Boris is human just bagged a load of man votes
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-48721211
Boris Johnson: Police called to Tory leadership contender's home
The pro Boris press/media mmmmm ??
"The caller was concerned for the welfare of a female neighbor. So taped it .
Classic man moment : Ms Symonds is allegedly heard saying the MP had ruined a sofa with red wine: "You just don't care for anything because you're spoilt. You have no care for money or anything."
Alleged : Get off me Boris out of my flat .
Sounds like the lad was on it ,man votes up .
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If indeed he has bagged a few more man votes than this a further sad indicator of how acceptable boorish behaviour (get off I believe was mentioned) is these days.
If you question bad behaviour these days you get ‘free speech’ or ‘virtue signalling’ thrown back at you by these ignoramuses.
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CardiffIrish2
If indeed he has bagged a few more man votes than this a further sad indicator of how acceptable boorish behaviour (get off I believe was mentioned) is these days.
If you question bad behaviour these days you get ‘free speech’ or ‘virtue signalling’ thrown back at you by these ignoramuses.
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Just image how many policemen would be needed to police every domestic dispute like this in the UK , thank god the the lady with recording device was poised and ready,remarkable timing, lol
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life on mars
Just image how many policemen would be needed to police every domestic dispute like this in the UK , thank god the the lady with recording device was poised and ready,remarkable timing, lol
So many people in the UK seem to be under the impression that Boris is your typical man next door who you could have a friendly pint with - it baffles me.
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I think it's very clear which side the anti-Corbyn/Trump BBC and Guardian are on. They clearly prefer the Blairites, May and Hillary :hehe:
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life on mars
Just image how many policemen would be needed to police every domestic dispute like this in the UK , thank god the the lady with recording device was poised and ready,remarkable timing, lol
It sounds like nothing happened but the ideas it record it was a noble one initially. Recorded evidence vocally is used in domestic violence cases as it gives the CPS an indicator of the scene and emotional state of the victim.
From what I have read the female was screaming ‘get off’ which if that was passed down the line by the reporting party would upgrade the call to an immediate.
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Wales-Bales
I think it's very clear which side the anti-Corbyn/Trump BBC and Guardian are on. They clearly prefer the Blairites, May and Hillary :hehe:
Perhaps you could point out the obvious bias, spin and inaccuracies contained in the Guardian's report on the incident.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics...ew-call-police
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CardiffIrish2
From what I have read the female was screaming ‘get off’ which if that was passed down the line by the reporting party would upgrade the call to an immediate.
Get off what? The phone? The laptop? The sofa? Was he humping her? It's not very clear what was going on!
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Wales-Bales
Get off what? The phone? The laptop? The sofa? Was he humping her? It's not very clear what was going on!
You’ve proved my point. If a report of ‘get off’ is heard then any call dispatcher in any Police Contact centre will upgrade that to an immediate.
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Wales-Bales
Get off what? The phone? The laptop? The sofa? Was he humping her? It's not very clear what was going on!
The quote was "Get off me".
https://www.theguardian.com/politics...-johnsons-home
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Veg1960
Maybe he was calming her down and stopping her from destroying the place? The reports say she was shouting and chucking things about. Probably a bit too much wine. More suspicious is the woman who called the police AND contacted the Guardian. It seems like she was on a mission.
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Veg1960
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Wales-Bales
Maybe he was calming her down and stopping her from destroying the place? The reports say she was shouting and chucking things about. Probably a bit too much wine. More suspicious is the woman who called the police AND contacted the Guardian. It seems like she was on a mission.
Nothing wrong with her calling the Police. Nothing suspicious about that bearing in mind two people having what sounds like a violent argument.
As for calling the Guardian, well I guess tahe has to answer for that.
Money I’d suggest.
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CardiffIrish2
Nothing wrong with her calling the Police. Nothing suspicious about that bearing in mind two people having what sounds like a violent argument.
As for calling the Guardian, well I guess tahe has to answer for that.
Money I’d suggest.
Or they spotted an opportunity for a bit of political mischievousness perhaps? :biggrin:
It sounds like the woman was being violent/unruly, while Boris was trying to calm her down.
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Wales-Bales
Or they spotted an opportunity for a bit of political mischievousness perhaps? :biggrin:
It sounds like the woman was being violent/unruly, while Boris was trying to calm her down.
BBC reporter: "But does what allegedly happened in the London flat Mr Johnson shares with his partner really matter? His critics will say yes. They argue that we need someone of good character who can make difficult decisions and work under pressure."
So even if Boris was calm and being the peacemaker, he's now unfit to be PM according to the BBC :biggrin:
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Wales-Bales
Or they spotted an opportunity for a bit of political mischievousness perhaps? :biggrin:
It sounds like the woman was being violent/unruly, while Boris was trying to calm her down.
'Unruly'? Didn't she know her place?
As to Boris being the peacemaker - you seem to have contorted an explanation for what happened out of the selected transcripts that defies the limited evidence available. To me it sounds like Boris Johnson was being an entitled, boorish twat, and throwing his considerable weight around. Nothing new there.
And of course the Guardian will look to score points off Johnson, and Corbyn, and Trump. And of course they identify with the Blairite group in the PLP as they do with the Labour Friends of Israel. The difference being that Johnson and Trump seem to thrive on liberal media attacks whilst Corbyn gets buried by them. However, it doesn't make the Guardian report wrong, or most of their commentary on what it says about our future PM.
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jon1959
'Unruly'? Didn't she know her place?
As to Boris being the peacemaker - you seem to have contorted an explanation for what happened out of the selected transcripts that defies the limited evidence available. To me it sounds like Boris Johnson was being an entitled, boorish twat, and throwing his considerable weight around. Nothing new there.
And of course the Guardian will look to score points off Johnson, and Corbyn, and Trump. And of course they identify with the Blairite group in the PLP as they do with the Labour Friends of Israel. The difference being that Johnson and Trump seem to thrive on liberal media attacks whilst Corbyn gets buried by them. However, it doesn't make the Guardian report wrong, or most of their commentary on what it says about our future PM.
But the report said Boris was calm and his partner was screaming. Much ado about nothing me thinks, but the BBC have shown their true colours. I can't see the blue rinse brigade being taken in by this though, and his support will probably go up!
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Why do so many people refer to this prick as Boris? It makes him sound like he’s a mate. Johnson is a nasty piece of work.
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Pearcey3
Why do so many people refer to this prick as Boris? It makes him sound like he’s a mate. Johnson is a nasty piece of work.
Yeah, it's weird. Boris and Hillary. What's so special about them?
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I can't remember the lady's name but she was a journalist working alongside Boris Johnson before he became a politician, and was interviewed on the Today programme (Radio 4) this morning. She recalled that he had quite a temper, possibly worse than that of Gordon Brown (who apparently was quite a different character behind the scenes, to the one we saw in public).
Boris certainly knows how to play his audience, witness the way he dodged questions about the incident with the girl friend during the hustings interview and got the audience on his side. He seems to get by on bluff and bluster - I don't think this will get him very far with EU negotiators!
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Boris and Farage England's finest some say. :hehe:
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Wales-Bales
I think it's very clear which side the anti-Corbyn/Trump BBC and Guardian are on. They clearly prefer the Blairites, May and Hillary :hehe:
Perhaps they are issuing their readers with recording and listening devices as part of their subscription services ??
Is the paper left leaning,middling left liberal , lite Tory, social democrat ,need to set that social democrat , ex Labour Part card carrying member , Rod Liddle on them.
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Gofer Blue
I can't remember the lady's name but she was a journalist working alongside Boris Johnson before he became a politician, and was interviewed on the Today programme (Radio 4) this morning. She recalled that he had quite a temper, possibly worse than that of Gordon Brown (who apparently was quite a different character behind the scenes, to the one we saw in public).
Boris certainly knows how to play his audience, witness the way he dodged questions about the incident with the girl friend during the hustings interview and got the audience on his side. He seems to get by on bluff and bluster - I don't think this will get him very far with EU negotiators!
Sonia Purnell has history with him though
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Just-Boris-.../dp/1845137167
Churchill had a terrible temper , a lot of high profile leaders do , Its pressure release, part of there ambition drive ,born form frustration
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Wales-Bales
But the report said Boris was calm and his partner was screaming. Much ado about nothing me thinks, but the BBC have shown their true colours. I can't see the blue rinse brigade being taken in by this though, and his support will probably go up!
https://www.bmgresearch.co.uk/is-the...ity-in-the-uk/
"Perhaps this is a classic case of confirmation bias. This is when people remember or interpret information selectively, or in a biased way that confirms their preexisting beliefs. The effect tends to be stronger for emotionally charged and deeply entrenched social issues. Issues like Brexit for instance."
I see you've, yet again, carefully weighed up the evidence, balanced the pros and cons in your unbiased way and come to exactly the same conclusion as you always do - the person you consider to be the anti globalist is 100% right.
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the other bob wilson
https://www.bmgresearch.co.uk/is-the...ity-in-the-uk/
"Perhaps this is a classic case of confirmation bias. This is when people remember or interpret information selectively, or in a biased way that confirms their preexisting beliefs. The effect tends to be stronger for emotionally charged and deeply entrenched social issues. Issues like Brexit for instance."
I see you've, yet again, carefully weighed up the evidence, balanced the pros and cons in your unbiased way and come to exactly the same conclusion as you always do - the person you consider to be the anti globalist is 100% right.
Lol :hehe: I read all sources matey, and I know exactly what is going on :wink:
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Wales-Bales
Lol :hehe: I read all sources matey, and I know exactly what is going on :wink:
Thought you only read Twitter?
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life on mars
Perhaps they are issuing their readers with recording and listening devices as part of their subscription services ??
Is the paper left leaning,middling left liberal , lite Tory, social democrat ,need to set that social democrat , ex Labour Part card carrying member , Rod Liddle on them.
If you own a smartphone you have a recording and listening device.
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I've just read that Boris's girlfriend was a victim of John Warboys, and he was found guilty at the Old Bailey on Thursday of 4 more rapes. The poor lady must have been very stressed that day. I can't imagine why the press would decide to do a political hitjob on that very same day.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-48702572
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life on mars
Oh that excuses him then I assume? I'd honestly like to know what positive qualities Johnson brings to the highest levels of Government? This isn't an old lefty just indulging in a bit of tory bashing because I can see why people might support the likes of Gove, Hunt, Javid and Stewart, but what on earth is there that Boris brings to the table that could benefit Britain in its present parlous state? People bleat on about his charisma. I don't see it myself, that might down to a blind spot on my behalf I suppose, but, given the mess we're in, do we really want charisma at the moment? Seems to me, someone with an eye for detail, a very good work ethic and the ability to listen to other viewpoints is what we need, not a highly ambitious blusterer.
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the other bob wilson
Thought you only read Twitter?
Every single journalist in the world is on Twitter!
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Wales-Bales
Every single journalist in the world is on Twitter!
It's only one source though.
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the other bob wilson
Oh that excuses him then I assume? I'd honestly like to know what positive qualities Johnson brings to the highest levels of Government? This isn't an old lefty just indulging in a bit of tory bashing because I can see why people might support the likes of Gove, Hunt, Javid and Stewart, but what on earth is there that Boris brings to the table that could benefit Britain in its present parlous state? People bleat on about his charisma. I don't see it myself, that might down to a blind spot on my behalf I suppose, but, given the mess we're in, do we really want charisma at the moment? Seems to me, someone with an eye for detail, a very good work ethic and the ability to listen to other viewpoints is what we need, not a highly ambitious blusterer.
Not excusing him or even liking him???? Just pointing out many leaders over the years , have had awful tempers .
Lets hope Mr Hunt beats him ,which won't shock me as the next four weeks will put this buffoon and Liz Truss his spokesperson under great pressure and scrutiny , she was on radio five this morning trying to deflect crashing out , but would not be drawn on his domestics .
I wouldn't be shocked old Boris likes two many of the reds leaving him not in control of himself .
If Boris does becomes leader , it will be a big contest of partner counts between him and Jezzie :biggrin:
Or will clean Mr Hunt appear in a late run ?
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life on mars
Not excusing him or even liking him???? Just pointing out many leaders over the years , have had awful tempers .
Lets hope Mr Hunt beats him ,which won't shock me as the next four weeks will put this buffoon and Liz Truss his spokesperson under great pressure and scrutiny , she was on radio five this morning trying to deflect crashing out , but would not be drawn on his domestics .
I wouldn't be shocked old Boris likes two many of the reds leaving him not in control of himself .
If Boris does becomes leader , it will be a big contest of partner counts between him and Jezzie :biggrin:
Or will clean Mr Hunt appear in a late run ?
The members of the conservative associations who will be doing the voting will have probably already made up their minds, and that is why May avoided a similar vote cos she knew she would lose.
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life on mars
Not excusing him or even liking him???? Just pointing out many leaders over the years , have had awful tempers .
Lets hope Mr Hunt beats him ,which won't shock me as the next four weeks will put this buffoon and Liz Truss his spokesperson under great pressure and scrutiny , she was on radio five this morning trying to deflect crashing out , but would not be drawn on his domestics .
I wouldn't be shocked old Boris likes two many of the reds leaving him not in control of himself .
If Boris does becomes leader , it will be a big contest of partner counts between him and Jezzie :biggrin:
Or will clean Mr Hunt appear in a late run ?
Imagine how big our police force would have to be if every neighbour called them whilst having the tumbler to the wall listening out for arguments of the next door neighbours :hehe:
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Wales-Bales
The members of the conservative associations who will be doing the voting will have probably already made up their minds, and that is why May avoided a similar vote cos she knew she would lose.
Of course she was , anointed, wasnt Gordon Brown of the same ilk ??
Intresting article on this subject :
https://blogs.lse.ac.uk/politicsandp...-premierships/
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Wales-Bales
Or they spotted an opportunity for a bit of political mischievousness perhaps? :biggrin:
It sounds like the woman was being violent/unruly, while Boris was trying to calm her down.
I found it a strange liason from the start ,considering her awful experince with the cab driver John Worboys, and Boris's alleged appetite for the ladys ,unless it's a careers opportunity ??
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the other bob wilson
It's only one source though.
I follow 100 on the left and 100 on the right. Every journalist and media company provides links to their articles. I also include independent open source researchers, in order to widen the knowledge base.
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Boris is finished,
Carole Codswallop is on his case!!.
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Nelsonca61
Imagine how big our police force would have to be if every neighbour called them whilst having the tumbler to the wall listening out for arguments of the next door neighbours :hehe:
The house I moved out of in Fairwater last year was in a terraced block of six and, for the first twenty years or so after it was built in 1963 our neighbours on one side were a young family where the father would come home drunk on a Saturday night quite often and I can remember being awoken quite often around midnight as a child by the shouting, arguing and general commotion coming from next door. The issue was something of a standing joke among the other families living nearby with the line "it must have been a full moon again on Saturday" often being trotted out.
My mother was probably the best friend of the wife and the fact that, to the best of my knowledge, my parents never rang the police when he was playing up can probably be put down to my mum being told by the wife that her husband never resorted to physical violence (she also told her that she would leave him as soon as her kids grew up and she was as good as her word). However, some of the other neighbours obviously felt concerned enough on a few occasions by what they were hearing to dial 999 because I can remember the police coming to calm things down.
Similarly, when I was living in the house alone after it had been left to my siblings and I when my mother died in 1999, my neighbours on the other side for about seven years would often argue loudly first thing in the morning using dreadful and threatening language from both husband and wife. These arguments would sometimes spill outside their house and, again, I can remember the police being needed on two or three occasions, so, presumably, a neighbour had thought the disturbance worthy of a 999 call.
I got one with all three of the argumentative individuals pretty well on a personal level. Indeed, I can remember meeting the first man I described after not seeing him for about fifteen years in an odd conversation where I kept on trying to ask him about what his life was like now and getting nowhere because he couldn't stop apologising for his behaviour on those Saturday nights a quarter of a century earlier. It was obvious he was deeply embarrassed by what he had done and this didn't surprise me really because, just like my other noisy neighbours, he was a fundamentally decent human being.
However, if any of the three were ever to be one of two candidates in a contest to elect our next Prime Minister, my vote (provided I had one!) would go, without hesitation, to their opponent and I would consider it my duty as a UK citizen to let other voters know about their character defects if asked.
That's why trying to make out that Boris Johnson, at this point in his life, is just like anyone else when it comes to incidents such as the one that happened on Friday morning doesn't wash with me I'm afraid.
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Wales-Bales
I follow 100 on the left and 100 on the right. Every journalist and media company provides links to their articles. I also include independent open source researchers, in order to widen the knowledge base.
So, let's say I accept all of that, admit I was wrong, and withdraw my earlier remark saying you only use one source - the obvious next question that arises is why do you waste so much of your time doing all of that work?
As I've said so many times on here, you, without fail, arrive at the same, anti globalist, viewpoint on virtually every subject you contribute to on the politics forum (and quite a few on the more general one as well), so what is the point in all of the research you say you undertake? Half of it, at the very least, never has any effect on you.
Most of us know we are biased when it comes to politics, and plenty of other subjects, and argue from that perspective. There are obvious flaws in such an approach which some of us try to counter sometimes with an acceptance that we can be wrong and an acknowledgement of when we are (I did it earlier in this message). Despite all of the research you say you undertake to get a balanced perspective on things, you never accept you could be wrong and always pitch your arguments well towards either one of a subject's extremes - you take great delight it seems in telling others on here that you are different from the rest of us and yet your actions and opinions show you to be the archetypal one eyed social media contributor!