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Callum Paterson to Sheffield Wednesday?
The Wednesday owner’s son has just started to follow Pato on Instagram - just as he started following most of their other recent signings before the transfer happened.
Interesting one. Maybe West Brom have put a stupid price on Ken Zohore (I don’t know - maybe something mad like £8m.....) and maybe Cardiff have let it be known that Pato is available for a move if it means more chance of playing and keeping his Scotland shirt?
Probably nothing - but you never know and it does imply an interest from S6.
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You can guarantee if he went elsewhere it'd bite us in the arse
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I'd hate this, I love Paterson!! :frown:
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Originally Posted by
jon1959
The Wednesday owner’s son has just started to follow Pato on Instagram - just as he started following most of their other recent signings before the transfer happened.
Interesting one. Maybe West Brom have put a stupid price on Ken Zohore (I don’t know - maybe something mad like £8m.....) and maybe Cardiff have let it be known that Pato is available for a move if it means more chance of playing and keeping his Scotland shirt?
Probably nothing - but you never know and it does imply an interest from S6.
I hope it happens. Let's be honest, he's a desperate measure up front, he doesn't really offer anything ad he is't going to all of a sudden, become a better player. He's the bloke that steps in when ideas are thin, and i would see it as progress in moving him on. The arrival of Moore will make the decision easier.
In fairness though, he's not a bad player, just a victim of not being brilliant in one position, but average in most, he could probably play in goal! If he does go then i wish him luck, he's done alright for us, he's honest and he works hard.
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Have absolutely no idea why we haven’t tried to train him for the just in front of the back 4?
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Hope not, we've always got to have at least one mad Scotsman in the squad.
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WJ99mobile
Have absolutely no idea why we haven’t tried to train him for the just in front of the back 4?
or a ball playing centre back
or a goalkeeper maybe
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WJ99mobile
Have absolutely no idea why we haven’t tried to train him for the just in front of the back 4?
Seriously? A player in that position needs a fair bit of awareness and anticipation, plus the ability to pass a ball well. He's 25, he isn't going to improve, he doesn't really add much in terms of quality, i'd shift him for the simple reason that i wouldn't have to watch him playing up front for us ever again.
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That account also follows Joe Bennett, Bale, Alphonso Davies, Grealish, Haaland, Conor McGregor, Mike Tyson, Justin Bieber, Messi and best of all Margot Robbie.
Big window coming up for the owls
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Zowhore
That account also follows Joe Bennett, Bale, Alphonso Davies, Grealish, Haaland, Conor McGregor, Mike Tyson, Justin Bieber, Messi and best of all Margot Robbie.
Big window coming up for the owls
What position does Margot Robbie play? I'm sure she'd get plenty of support from players slotting in behind her.
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I hope not. Good squad player who can play in a number of positions. Theres others id prefer to leave before him.
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WJ99mobile
Have absolutely no idea why we haven’t tried to train him for the just in front of the back 4?
Why? He's a shit right back because he can't defend and you think he can do a job as a defensive midfielder?
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Llandaff Blue
Why? He's a shit right back because he can't defend and you think he can do a job as a defensive midfielder?
I can't recall ever seeing Patterson playing in the position we originally signed him apart from internationally for Scotland. I do recall Warnock saying he signed a defender that didn't know how to defend. Since then he has without recognisable complaint played wherever he has been asked to with enthusiasm and a few bursts of skill.
Seems to me we made him into a jack of all trades filling in whenever there were mediocre performances from the players he replaced in dedicated roles. I can't think of any position where he would be considered the best player in that role. I can think of several where he could cover. If he has more ambition than that he should move on with our gratitude!
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cyril evans awaydays
I can't recall ever seeing Patterson playing in the position we originally signed him apart from internationally for Scotland. I do recall Warnock saying he signed a defender that didn't know how to defend. Since then he has without recognisable complaint played wherever he has been asked to with enthusiasm and a few bursts of skill.
Seems to me we made him into a jack of all trades filling in whenever there were mediocre performances from the players he replaced in dedicated roles. I can't think of any position where he would be considered the best player in that role. I can think of several where he could cover. If he has more ambition than that he should move on with our gratitude!
He played pretty well as an attacking midfielder, either through the middle or on the right, in the second half of the 2017/18 season.
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Llandaff Blue
Why? He's a shit right back because he can't defend and you think he can do a job as a defensive midfielder?
Can’t defend, can’t pass, his ball control is non existant. That’s one position he can’t play.
He’s a wrecking ball. Good to throw on last 10 mins but shouldn’t be anywhere near the starting line up and thankfully isn’t under Harris now.
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Hopefully the Paterson lone striker project is over. It was only marginally successful at best. Yes, I was a strong advocate of Paterson, simply because, while he wasn't particularly good, he was still our best option from the start of games. I'm still unconvinced by our other striking options apart from Moore, who looks like a steal at the money we paid. Now if we're going to a more measured, passing game, Paterson as a striker is about as useful as putting Pirlo in a Neil Warnock side.
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J R Hartley
Can’t defend, can’t pass, his ball control is non existant. That’s one position he can’t play.
He’s a wrecking ball. Good to throw on last 10 mins but shouldn’t be anywhere near the starting line up and thankfully isn’t under Harris now.
Oddly, his record from the bench is atrocious but as a starter is far better. Super sub he certainly isn't.
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Llandaff Blue
Why? He's a shit right back because he can't defend and you think he can do a job as a defensive midfielder?
Is he though, he only played a few times there for us and then Warnock dined out it for ever as he doing better in another position. I have a Hearts mate who said he was quality for them in that position?
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The Plan A Supporters Club will be holding annual memorial meetings at a venue still to be decided. All have a preferred second choice, but none of the main venues is quite right!
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J R Hartley
Can’t defend, can’t pass, his ball control is non existant. That’s one position he can’t play.
He’s a wrecking ball. Good to throw on last 10 mins but shouldn’t be anywhere near the starting line up and thankfully isn’t under Harris now.
Difficult to sympathise with anyone paid xxx times over the minimum wage. The point I was trying to make in support of Patterson was that whilst, say Joe Bennett as a left back turns up for training every week and hones his skills as a left back, Patterson racks up and tries to fit in with whatever position he is asked to play in whatever formation we set up. If he makes his money being Johny Everywhere then fair enough. Otherwise go to somewhere where the orchestra leader thinks you have a talent in a certain instrument rather than than think him an able but mediocre player of brass. percussion strings and woodwind
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cyril evans awaydays
I can't recall ever seeing Patterson playing in the position we originally signed him apart from internationally for Scotland. I do recall Warnock saying he signed a defender that didn't know how to defend. Since then he has without recognisable complaint played wherever he has been asked to with enthusiasm and a few bursts of skill.
Seems to me we made him into a jack of all trades filling in whenever there were mediocre performances from the players he replaced in dedicated roles. I can't think of any position where he would be considered the best player in that role. I can think of several where he could cover. If he has more ambition than that he should move on with our gratitude!
We hear that he can't defend, although i've never seen him play as a defender for us, so how do people know that he can't defend? Because Warnock said so? Although Harris hasn't tried him there, so maybe there is truth to it.
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Zowhore
That account also follows Joe Bennett, Bale, Alphonso Davies, Grealish, Haaland, Conor McGregor, Mike Tyson, Justin Bieber, Messi and best of all Margot Robbie.
Big window coming up for the owls
:hehe:
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I have no idea if there is serious interest from Sheffield Wednesday (how are they signing anyone when they are on the naughty step?) but I can see why Pato would want to move on if he was offered regular football. He is at best our third choice striker and can't hope for much more than a bench slot. I like him, but have no idea what he is as a footballer. He covers about five positions, but looks slightly wrong in all of them. As a wrecking ball, a force of nature, someone to get stuck in and score some goals he is great, but he defies definition. If he does move on it would be no surprise, but I would miss him and wish him well.
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OurManFlint II
Is he though, he only played a few times there for us and then Warnock dined out it for ever as he doing better in another position. I have a Hearts mate who said he was quality for them in that position?
Surely we should try him in our problem right back position where he has played most of his career for Hearts and Scotland? He is our third choice striker now so won’t get many games there! Don’t listen to Warnock, he just says things for effect as he wanted him up front in his hoof ball tactics!
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Tuerto
We hear that he can't defend, although i've never seen him play as a defender for us, so how do people know that he can't defend? Because Warnock said so? Although Harris hasn't tried him there, so maybe there is truth to it.
He played there when Warnock initially signed him, lasted for a handful of games before he pushed him into midfield.
This is a direct quote from him on playing RB for Scotland
"It’s not my favourite position. I like to attack and I was a bit exposed. It’s not the best for me but I’d do whatever is asked for me for the country"
Scotland probably play him there because they have no other option. When we had the same issue last season during Sanderson's drop in form Harris rather play Bacuna there. Says all you need to know
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cyril evans awaydays
I can't recall ever seeing Patterson playing in the position we originally signed him apart from internationally for Scotland. I do recall Warnock saying he signed a defender that didn't know how to defend. Since then he has without recognisable complaint played wherever he has been asked to with enthusiasm and a few bursts of skill.
Seems to me we made him into a jack of all trades filling in whenever there were mediocre performances from the players he replaced in dedicated roles. I can't think of any position where he would be considered the best player in that role. I can think of several where he could cover. If he has more ambition than that he should move on with our gratitude!
He did play right back for a few games at the start of the promotion year but Warnock clearly didn't fancy him there and obviously Harris doesn't either. In fairness he gets in the Scotland side as a right back, but Scotland aren't very good and have no depth in that position, so it's not that impressive. From what I've seen from Paterson over the years, the higher up the pitch he is the better.
As JR Hartley pointed out he can't pass either, imagine trying to keep possession with Paterson at the base of a midfield, would be carnage.
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It's amazing that Paterson made it this far. He can't pass. He can't play his position. But he scored against Liverpool at Anfield in the Premier League. Some story.
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In the promotion year he was great, his efforts were well appreciated, he was dangerous, aggressive,physical, scared the life out of defences , created chances, considered then as a first team pick , wasn't he our top scorer that year ?
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jon1959
I have no idea if there is serious interest from Sheffield Wednesday (how are they signing anyone when they are on the naughty step?) but I can see why Pato would want to move on if he was offered regular football. He is at best our third choice striker and can't hope for much more than a bench slot. I like him, but have no idea what he is as a footballer. He covers about five positions, but looks slightly wrong in all of them. As a wrecking ball, a force of nature, someone to get stuck in and score some goals he is great, but he defies definition. If he does move on it would be no surprise, but I would miss him and wish him well.
I like that Jon1959 summed up and bang on.
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Scotland also no longer play him at right back. They use him as a striker.
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Hilts
Scotland also no longer play him at right back. They use him as a striker.
His last 2 games for the Scotch were cameos up front, but the 2 before that he played 90 minutes in both at right back (and they won both)
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Rjk
His last 2 games for the Scotch were cameos up front, but the 2 before that he played 90 minutes in both at right back (and they won both)
Are people are having false memories, i swear he never started at right back for us?
For sure he never had a 'run of games' at RB either and was then moved. I think he started further up the field and possibly covered RB once or twice in the season and that was that.
Anyway, i like the guy and he is useful to cover a few positions but as mentioned previously, as he doesn't seem to have a designated position might be best to cash in and focus on what we need rather than keep a poor mans James Milner on the books.
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This makes perfect sense. As we evolve away from hoofball, we need players who can pass.
This would free up some wages and with Etheridge and NML gone, we might be able to afford someone decent, like Knockaert perhaps?
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Don't understand some of the disrespect towards Patto. Always gave 100% for our club.
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UNDERHILL1927
Don't understand some of the disrespect towards Patto. Always gave 100% for our club.
That doesn't earn him the right to avoid being criticised for not being very good.
I should expect him to give 100%, he's paid too.
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Der Kaiser
That doesn't earn him the right to avoid being criticised for not being very good.
I should expect him to give 100%, he's paid too.
He's been extremely effective for us, without his goals and tireless work up front our recent Premier League stint would have ended much sooner.
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I think he would make a great right back, and could still go up for set pieces to provide an additional threat
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Disappointed if he goes. Think he has suffered from being versatile. I felt his best spell with us when he played in MF, coming into the box late to grab vital goals.
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Rjk
I think he would make a great right back, and could still go up for set pieces to provide an additional threat
Even by modern full back standards, his defending is atrocious