looks like they are on the way back.
it was nice while it lasted
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-57595913.amp
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looks like they are on the way back.
it was nice while it lasted
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-57595913.amp
Yes that is a pain in the arse I have to admit.
I’ve been with them since 1996, when it was Orange and I still have the same answering machine message.
This sort of thing is going to make me think twice about staying.
In the Telegraph and on GB News there was a piece "5 things remainers got wrong". The article outlined some of the more extreme doomsday scenarios that people had made and debunked them..
The problem is that the pandemic has prolonged the delay in the inevitable negative consequences of BREXIT.
The Government has essentially been given a bit of a BREXIT free-pass as economies, movement etc has all been affected by the pandemic.
Also, those affected are shouting that they are affected but no one is really listening because the media is so biased in favour of 'not rocking the boat'.
When we start to get back to normal, pandemic-wise, then we will start to realise (after a little positive blip caused by post-pandemic energy and money being spent) the delayed negative consequences of BREXIT on our economy, academia and movement, and it is going to be bad. That's why the government are in constant PR mode.
Roaming tariffs is the start.
I don’t think we can really make educated statements until we have been out of the EU for10 years.
To be fair both sides (remain and leave) lied through their teeth
Pensions would fall through the floor, house prices would do the same. Cameron even wheeled in Obama to try to make his case.
It is what really lost them the vote in the end as remain continually ramped up the doom and gloom until the people didn’t give them any credibility
Bit of a 1st World doomsday then.
I'd blame EE (bt) more than brexit, didn't they all say they had no intention of returning to them, don't they already make enough profit to be able to cover this.
The scrapping of roaming charges was one of the relatively few things the EU got right. Seems poor from the UK government to allow the phone companies to row back on this.
Surely we could have updated UK law to include this protection against roaming fees
when we say its roaming charges, its not like the old days with silly costs
its £2 a day to have roaming ( as you were in the UK with your home allowances / costs etc )
So a 7 day break to Europe, would cost you a extra £14 to use your phone as you would at home
Have a gander at this:
https://what-europe-does-for-me.eu/en/portal
Quite a lot of admirable things on there, no?
Tell me what Westminster has done for Wales in the last 1,000 years?
By updating UK law was my suggestion. It appears that has been done in terms of limiting roaming charges to £45 a month, seems like quite a high figure to me.
The other option of course, would have been for both sets of negotiators to look after their citizens and include it in the trade deal.
Isn't it a tenner for 30 days as well , which seems very reasonable ??
Back in the old day wi fi wasn't as far reaching as it is now abroad , or any good, I'm guessing whatt's App via wi fit will be used more to avoid roaming costs and other free sites ?
There is not evidence this wouldn't have happened anyway via discreet increase in monthly plans anyway , those costs were just not exposed as a standalone charge they were sucked into monthly traffic increases.
Its for new customers and perhaps renewals , it would only take one of the operators to brake ranks and not charge and we could see a bidding war .
If the roaming costs were really channelled back in to improving infrastructures within the UK including 5g masts most would accept the £2 , just a beer less a day out of 15
Another one of those "have your cake and eat it" scenarios?
By my understanding of things, if you use a phone abroad you would likely use another company's signal. Under a common trade agreement as we had as members of the EU, it was decided that you could use a mobile within a fair usage policy on someone else's network. Now, if as part of Brexit negotiations, it was agreed to keep this, then great. It wasn't. As far as I know, there was an agreement on both sides that, if roaming charges were reintroduced, they should be reasonable.
The UK could have whatever laws it wants. It could ban roaming charges completely. Maybe mobile providers that operate in the UK would happily allow their networks to be used abroad, where they exist. However, there are plenty of mobile providers in Europe that don't operate in the UK and they would be free to charge what they want to piggyback on those networks, as long as it is reasonable. If those network operators chose to up their prices, UK operators might be forced to stop Brits using those networks. UK law wouldn't have any say in what foreign mobile operators do or charge.
I don't see wanting a decent deal as 'having your cake and eating it'. I think it was perfectly reasonable to expect the negotiators on both sides to try and incorporate as many 'easy wins' as they could. It would have benefited eu citizens aswell as British citizens.
As for the roaming charges themselves. Admittedly I'm going slightly on guess work here, but ive always imagined that the major part of the cost paid by the consumer was due to a hefty markup by their provider. Rather than the wholesale rates between suppliers themselves being high. The relatively cheap fixed price deals for roaming in virtually all countries would suggest that the wholesale rates aren't to high.
UK legislation can stop your supplier gouging you with a massive markup. If problems do arise because of high wholesale prices in a particular area , then obviously thats a different matter that would need to be addressed as and when it happens
Indeed it is, i didnt read all the article
Customers travelling to the 47 affected European destinations will also be able to buy 30-day passes for £10 to use their home tariff abroad
lets be honest, a 10'er for a 1 or 2 week holiday isnt a game changer, though i expect people will still moan
but surely you would research the costs of roaming with your mobile and then make the choice to use the phone or not
it becomes closer to a non-issue as its only a few quid, you could of course put your phone in airplane mode and just use free wifi in the hotel etc etc
I used to pop my sim card out as i got on the plane to avoid roaming charges