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I hope Mehmet Dalman is reading that lot!
The more I read, the times I’ve seen Millwall play live or highlights - we shouldn’t touch Harris with a barge pole, he’s Warnock Mark 2 without the experience.Quote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
It’ll be telling if we do appoint him, as it’ll show our ambition is clearly not to even attempt the change the football philosophy at the club.
The only thing in his favour is he won’t cost anything and his wages will be lower than Warnock’s and again that would be a demonstration of our priorities.
Millwall don't rate him. Not a single vote in delmbox' poll.
I'm beginning to take an anyone-but-Harris viewpoint.
Forget infrastructure, playing style etc.., this has always been CCFCs priority.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stavross1927
No one seems to know why he is even being considered other than probably being cheap (see 'The Russell Slade Wilderness Years') and one other poster saying that he did 'marvellous things' at Millwall, which I can't find any evidence of.Quote:
Originally Posted by Carl Dale's Mole
He feels like the least inspiring of all the candidates mentioned so far.
Puzzling.
The Dark Side is reporting that it’s a 100% done deal and the new manager is ....
.......Neil Harris........
Aargh!
FFS!!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Cleve van Leef
WHY!!!!!!!!!!!!
I for one won’t be watching us under Bomber ****ing Harris.
Can't say I'm happy about this appointment. But were Millwall fans saying the same when he got them into the playoffs twice and when they had good cup runs under him?
Let's be honest if he's shite he'll be gone quickly, Trollope didn't last 5 minutes.
IF it is to be Harris, this surely contradicts the public comments made by MD and his `offensive` football style, it just seems a cheap option and more empty comments. I have nothing against Harris, like many others I remember his games with us on loan, and his health issues, but it just feels wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cleve van Leef
Why not?Quote:
Originally Posted by dembethewarrior
The Dark Sides LeAdEr posted that he is friends with Warnock.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cleve van Leef
I wouldn"t believe that either.
It's remarkable that so many people here have started tearing the new manager to bits before they know who it is !
In this case it's Neil Harris, a good young manager by the way, but the same people who knocked Sir Neil week in week out have started moaning and accusing every possible candidate who's been suggested.
Maybe this is why the last manager couldn't take it any more and unfortunately I have to say that if I were a candidate and I read this stuff I'd give it a miss. Nothing will ever be good enough for those who are determined to fail and enjoy gloating over failure far more than they enjoy competing ,
Because I’m sick of awful football.Quote:
Originally Posted by LeningradCowboy
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Originally Posted by RonnieBird
The fans are fatigued by hoofball and Harris is proven to employ the same tactic, hence the pessimism.Quote:
Originally Posted by RonnieBird
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Originally Posted by 198bore
Yeah we know who Neil Harris is, it's not like he's some unknown entity.
Like when people were defending the signing of Madine even though we'd all seen him play plenty of times.
Because he doesn't watch us anyway :hehe::hehe:Quote:
Originally Posted by LeningradCowboy
Someone tell Ronnie Bird this is a thread about what Millwall fans thought of Neil Harris when he resigned and what they think of him being linked with the City job. While not all of the messages are negative by any means, it's far, far from a ringing endorsement of him either and let's not forget that we're talking about someone who deserves to have that much over used word legend added to his name when you consider what he did as a player for Millwall.
Reading much of what's in those threads, there are exact parallels with Neil Warnock at Cardiff - recognition and praise for an excellent job done in the early phase of his time in charge, but then significant numbers growing weary of pragmatic, attritional football that feeds off opposition mistakes.
I was hoping for some evidence that Millwall played like they did under Harris because it was a style that best suited their players rather the way he wants to play, but I didn't find any - given the reaction to "Warnockball" from so many City fans this season, I just don't understand why the club would want to go for someone who it seems will have us playing in the same way as we do now with no evidence that there will be a gradual change to a more progressive style.
Probably because Warnock has spent the last 3-4 weeks putting him in the frame. I do not give the City board the credence of even knowing about him.Quote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
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Originally Posted by soulsurfer3
Depends on what you understand by ‘offensive’
Route 1 football is offensive to most
Neil Harris' record at Millwall includes:
- All time record goal scorer
- 4th in list of all time player appearances
- League One play-offs and Wembley appearance (unsuccessful) in first full season of management
- 2016/17 FA Cup run knocking out 3 premier league clubs on the way to quarter-finals and second run at League One play-offs (successful) in second year in charge
- An unbeaten run of 17 games in first season back in Championship, including winning 6 away games in a row, and Championship survival
- 2018/19 run to FA cup to quarter-finals and Championship survival
- Poor start to 2019 season leading to Harris resigning.
- Overall he's the 5th longest serving Millwall manager
How can a person achieve so much at one club and still have negative reviews?
Well if Harris is Warnock Jr, then surely we’ll be looking at more of the same, possibly with less spending, but the same snoozeball.Quote:
Originally Posted by surge
I for one would like to see a progression. We’re being left behind.
As much as he would be an uninspiring choice I think the negativity surrounding the potential appointment is a little OTT and of course very premature.
He did do a good job at Millwall, I fail to see how anyone could argue with that other than Millwall fans themselves, the reason for that is simple. You always have a very skewed viewpoint when thinking of where your club should be.
Promotion and a fairly stable championship club, couple of good Cup runs, that's about where Millwall should be surely.
I wouldn't be surprised if they slipped down again in the next couple of years.
He wouldn't be my choice but he will get my support if it his him which we don't really know that it is.
More of the same as he achieved at Millwall and while spending less? Yes please.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Hooded Claw
I too would like to see some progression and haven't been excited by the Neil Harris Millwall clips on youtube, but I do think we have to recognise that there was a large amount of progression from pre-Warnock to Warnock and there will almost definitely be a lot of progression with next manager because of how old school Warnock was in certain areas. Even going back to a Malky type manager would see us progress because of his liking for sports science.
100% correct. There is zero ambition for this club to progress and develop. Any success we achieve is a fortuitous bonus to the board and not an aim. I think we should all face facts and realise that as long as Tan is in charge we will constantly be taking backward steps year on year.Quote:
Originally Posted by Joe Gillis
It seems that we as a club are hanging onto an outdated, boring and often ineffective style of football. Fans will know that it might work for a season or two but then opponents work us out, fans get bored shitless and wins start drying up. Sack and repeat. Boring. Outdated. A little bit embarrassing.
I agree with you, but would add that if it is correct that City under Neil Harris would offer the same "boring", "outdated" football, then there would not be that season or two before opponents worked us out.Given how ineffective Warnockball has been this season, it seems so odd that the club appear to think that the system is right and it just needs a change of the man in charge to turn things around.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brisbane CCFC
Agreed.
Funnily enough, I missed our game v the wurzels but friends I know from Bristol went, they said they were shocked how much we past the ball about, that they were far more route 1 and they still can’t believe they won.....Quote:
Originally Posted by light up the darkness
And they aren’t far off. The 2 sides played a similar style on Sunday and Bristol City certainly didn’t deserve to win ( bit like us the week before may I add)Quote:
Originally Posted by goats