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Lots of hints about what NML did to breach his contract but still vague enough to not have a scooby what it was without guessing.
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https://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/sp...-mendez-laing/
Lots of hints about what NML did to breach his contract but still vague enough to not have a scooby what it was without guessing.
Scooby snacks?Quote:
Originally Posted by Heisenberg
Let's be honest, it can't be that bad. Just makes the whole situation completely unnecessary for me. A stern talking to and a fine would have sufficed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Heisenberg
Once the situation comes out I'll pass proper judgement but to see him with a rival (well before this season anyway) grates on me.
How do you know it would have sufficed?Quote:
Originally Posted by UNDERHILL1927
Because he's waltzed straight back into a team in the Championship.Quote:
Originally Posted by xsnaggle
As I said, I'll comment further when the full story comes out but at the moment it doesn't sit well with me
A situation that you readily admit you know nothing about, and yet you seem to be suggesting the club should have handled it in a different way?Quote:
Originally Posted by UNDERHILL1927
For all we know the club got fed up of giving him a stern talking toQuote:
Originally Posted by UNDERHILL1927
My gut is that is club could have stood by him but had a reasonable to get rid of him and not long left on his contact.
Yet easily our best wide player.Quote:
Originally Posted by 2b2bdoo
I don’t think the club just wanted to get rid and I imagine he would’ve been offered a new contract.
As someone else mentioned he's been out for exactly 6 months, let's assume suspended. After that 6 months left on his contract he isn't as much an asset. Offering someone a contract while suspended or unable to play seems unlikely. Even boro offered only until the end of the season. The club must have taken a view that he was no longer an asset.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Bob Banker Spanker
Our best wide player probably but you have to look at the situation and not what the player could offer.
You have already passed judgementQuote:
Originally Posted by UNDERHILL1927
The only thing we know is that the club had a chance to get rid of him at no cost and took it. He hasn't played a game of football or trained with fellow professionals for 6 months. My expectations are not high. We'll see. I never really really rated him anyway. He scored a nice goal against Villa though.
You say he walzed straight back into a team.Quote:
Originally Posted by UNDERHILL1927
He went to a manager who is known for taking people with him, a manager who has just admitted that other clubs have had problems with the player before and who says he is not match fit.
He is on a short contract, virtually on probation.
But you are convinced that Cardiff City acted in haste, despite your not having the slightest idea of what he was sacked for, and should have kept him and made money from him. Another person who seeks to semonstrate your knowledge of the finacial position and working of the club and it's owner.
He was sacked for a gross breach of contract. It was so cut and dried that the PFA sided with the club, raised no objection and neither the player nor his reps made any attempt to fight the decision at any time.
But of course you know far better than all these people.
By all means have opinions about things but lets be reasonable.
You're basing your opinion on the same amount of actual facts that I am.Quote:
Originally Posted by xsnaggle
All I'm saying is it seems to me there were other options to be explored. We shall see.
Ps get him nailed on MOTM if he plays against us at the end of Feb
The fact nobody picked him up as a free agent after he left us would almost certainly mean he was under some sort of ban and nobody could sign him
Also, the fact that he only signed a short term contract for a manager he has played for before also indicates that they are unsure whether he can be “trusted” with a longer contract
For such a talented player there was virtually no interest from any club to sign him would also indicate whatever he did lots of clubs thought it serious enough not to take a chance on him
And at Brighton away in the Prem. But i agree with you, his overall form/input was not very good.Quote:
Originally Posted by NYCBlue
Spedger
NM-L is on the bench for Middlesbrough today
Sitting behind the white linesQuote:
Originally Posted by Michael Morris
...Of the touch line
I've made an informed decision based on my little faith in the people running our club.Quote:
Originally Posted by BLUEAWAY
I'll make a factually based judgment once everything comes out.
You have made an uninformed decision based on absolutely nothing. Also, he didn't ‘Waltz’ anywhere - he hasn't kicked a ball for six months.Quote:
Originally Posted by UNDERHILL1927
Apologies, I didn't know you knew all the details about what went on, have a good night Vincent.Quote:
Originally Posted by dml1954
Pot? Kettle?Quote:
Originally Posted by UNDERHILL1927
Have a good night DalmanQuote:
Originally Posted by xsnaggle
you really do live in a special place don't you?Quote:
Originally Posted by UNDERHILL1927
I have no knowledge just a gut feeling as this is a strange one considering his talent within the Championship.
I wonder if this was a repeat or last chance misdemeanor.
End of contract near ,high wage Warner.
Unlikely to re - sign without a wage raise, therefore consided a big risk due to his known behaviours/ condition. .
Couldn't sell to anyone at the time because of his known issues.
No one showed an interest and stayed away for 6 months must have some relevance, considering his ability.
Where did he go , and what was the prolonged for?
Warnock loves the bad boy last chance saloon gamble on a player and has a deep knowledge of him .
Why didn't other clubs show some interest.
After Boro declared interest where were other clubs , surely his agent would be on the sell , the photos of him training were a staged ' I'm back ' sign me up message .
If he is only on a short term contract does this support a view he has previous on his misdemeanor , and likely to return to those behaviours.
More like Colin talks about himself.
NML is no great loss. He had great start with us , scoring 4 goals in 3 games and had a really good first season. In the PL he was out for half a season and only started 11 games, and missed a chunk of last season too. Overall he played 65+20 sub and scored 13 goals, so he averaged 21 starts and 7 sub each season and scored 4 goals per season. When he was on his game he was excellent but too often he wasn't. Consistency wasn't his strong point, coupled with his injury record.
Whatever he did, the club decided to get rid rather than pay him, probably knowing he was out for 6 months. And with a few months left on his contract when he returned, so they saved a whole season's wages which they could then use to get someone else in - like Wilson or Ojo.
I will always remember his great start to his career with us and his two goals at Man U though. I wish him well but City made the right decision.
Sounds like a ban for missing a drugs test to me. If so, then there would have been an earlier one at some point in his career - maybe for three months, which I believe is the 'first offence' ban. Six months is for a 'second offence'?