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Oil filled portable radiators
The little ones on wheels you can get from argos etc
Are they any good ?
With the energy bills as they are was thinking of grabbing a couple instead of firing up the central heating
Cheaper to run ?
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Originally Posted by
SLUDGE FACTORY
The little ones on wheels you can get from argos etc
Are they any good ?
With the energy bills as they are was thinking of grabbing a couple instead of firing up the central heating
Cheaper to run ?
I’ve got one which I use in the room which doesn’t have a radiator. It’s a small room, so it’s good for that, but I wouldn’t use it instead of a radiator in one of the bigger rooms in the house. When I first moved in up here, there was no working boiler so I used the oil radiator a lot for a few weeks - it was in the spring, so it wasn’t too bad, but looking at my electric bill for that time, it was quite expensive,
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I’ve got one of these , which appear fairly economical , that said I find more useful in the summer as it offers cool airflow and I know you have complained of heat in the past.
https://www.dyson.co.uk/fans-and-hea...l/white-nickel
According to Ben Gallizzi, energy expert at Uswitch, it'll cost you 19.8p to keep it running for 12 hours straight. If you had it on for 24 hours a day during a week-long heatwave it would set you back £2.77.
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the other bob wilson
I’ve got one which I use in the room which doesn’t have a radiator. It’s a small room, so it’s good for that, but I wouldn’t use it instead of a radiator in one of the bigger rooms in the house. When I first moved in up here, there was no working boiler so I used the oil radiator a lot for a few weeks - it was in the spring, so it wasn’t too bad, but looking at my electric bill for that time, it was quite expensive,
I can't be blasting the heat through the main system
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TWGL1
I’ve got one of these , which appear fairly economical , that said I find more useful in the summer as it offers cool airflow and I know you have complained of heat in the past.
https://www.dyson.co.uk/fans-and-hea...l/white-nickel
According to Ben Gallizzi, energy expert at Uswitch, it'll cost you 19.8p to keep it running for 12 hours straight. If you had it on for 24 hours a day during a week-long heatwave it would set you back £2.77.
That's the thing these oil filled rads are pushed but the cost is no advantage is the elec price is so high
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I am going to argos in Bridgend
And I am going now
Onwards
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SLUDGE FACTORY
That's the thing these oil filled rads are pushed but the cost is no advantage is the elec price is so high
20p for 12 hours doesn't sound expensive (if true).
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I’ve got one for my little office in the house and it does just enough to keep me warm. As I’ve got a 3 story house if I put the heating on it warms two floors when all I need is a bit of warmth in the smallest office room. It’s decent enough.
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SLUDGE FACTORY
That's the thing these oil filled rads are pushed but the cost is no advantage is the elec price is so high
Hence the wheels.
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2b2bdoo
I’ve got one for my little office in the house and it does just enough to keep me warm. As I’ve got a 3 story house if I put the heating on it warms two floors when all I need is a bit of warmth in the smallest office room. It’s decent enough.
Same as what I do. Pointless heating the rest of the house when I can shut myself in one room and use one of these.
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2b2bdoo
I’ve got one for my little office in the house and it does just enough to keep me warm. As I’ve got a 3 story house if I put the heating on it warms two floors when all I need is a bit of warmth in the smallest office room. It’s decent enough.
You can turn off the rads in the rest of the house ?
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The Bloop
Same as what I do. Pointless heating the rest of the house when I can shut myself in one room and use one of these.
Switch on radiator in your room
Switch off radiators elsewhere
If its cheaper to run one rad I will stick with it but I am trying to work out if these mini portable radiators will be cheaper again than the main central heating rad
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Taunton Blue Genie
Hence the wheels.
Don't come that with me
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lardy
20p for 12 hours doesn't sound expensive (if true).
It certainly doesn't
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electricity is about 3.5 times as expensive as gas for the same amount of energy, but then you have to also factor in how large the area you are heating I.e. 1 room Vs 1 house and also the efficiency of the heaters.
for 1 room only electric is probably fine
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Rjk
electricity is about 3.5 times as expensive as gas for the same amount of energy, but then you have to also factor in how large the area you are heating I.e. 1 room Vs 1 house and also the efficiency of the heaters.
for 1 room only electric is probably fine
I have a cheapo electric fire with fake flames but I rarely put the heat function on that it has as its too expensive
I would think the oil filled rad , run by electricity , is considerably cheaper than that
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SLUDGE FACTORY
Switch on radiator in your room
Switch off radiators elsewhere
If its cheaper to run one rad I will stick with it but I am trying to work out if these mini portable radiators will be cheaper again than the main central heating rad
That's a lot of faffing about each day. I don't know what the cheapest option is, but using a single oil filled rad for about 5 hours a day suits me.
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I had a small 800 W oil filled rad ( smallest I could find ), used to use it in the caravan or the VW splity all the time, they used to say it used to cost 2p a hour to run, which I was more than happy with
I used in the conservatory in the milder evenings, it was no good in the depths of winter and it was freezing out there
the only downside is that it just heats the air around it, so if you are 10ft away, you might to feel the warmth for a few hours ( depending on the output of the heater ) , leave it on all the time and it'll keep a room warm though, its just slow as it has no fan
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When Council / housing associations / MOD ( ive worked for all 3 ) houses lost heating, we always used to supply these
https://www.screwfix.com/p/ch-2000m-...st-2000w/716fy
ive got 2 in the shed for emergencies, they work well and while 2000 W will not be as cheap as 1000 W, they do work well
I fitted one of these
https://www.screwfix.com/p/blyss-sar...te-1500w/195jk
in the mancave / games room, I went with 1500 W as its slightly cheaper to run, I can run all the power ( with this heater included ) from a 13A fixed spur unit ( or a plug if needed ) as its all under 3 KW of power
it heats a 5 M X 3M well insulated space really , last week it was Minus 4 C outside and I was sat in there with a hoodie and some joggers on, when I started boxing ( in VR ) I had to take the Hoodie off, so the heater was well upto the job and cost 40p per hour to run
this site has a calculator with all the tariffs
https://www.sust-it.net/heating-energy-calculator.php
select the size of your heater and away you go
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blue matt
I had a small 800 W oil filled rad ( smallest I could find ), used to use it in the caravan or the VW splity all the time, they used to say it used to cost 2p a hour to run, which I was more than happy with
I used in the conservatory in the milder evenings, it was no good in the depths of winter and it was freezing out there
the only downside is that it just heats the air around it, so if you are 10ft away, you might to feel the warmth for a few hours ( depending on the output of the heater ) , leave it on all the time and it'll keep a room warm though, its just slow as it has no fan
Yes 800w is small but fine to keep the chill off
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Originally Posted by
blue matt
When Council / housing associations / MOD ( ive worked for all 3 ) houses lost heating, we always used to supply these
https://www.screwfix.com/p/ch-2000m-...st-2000w/716fy
ive got 2 in the shed for emergencies, they work well and while 2000 W will not be as cheap as 1000 W, they do work well
I fitted one of these
https://www.screwfix.com/p/blyss-sar...te-1500w/195jk
in the mancave / games room, I went with 1500 W as its slightly cheaper to run, I can run all the power ( with this heater included ) from a 13A fixed spur unit ( or a plug if needed ) as its all under 3 KW of power
it heats a 5 M X 3M well insulated space really , last week it was Minus 4 C outside and I was sat in there with a hoodie and some joggers on, when I started boxing ( in VR ) I had to take the Hoodie off, so the heater was well upto the job and cost 40p per hour to run
this site has a calculator with all the tariffs
https://www.sust-it.net/heating-energy-calculator.php
select the size of your heater and away you go
Do these come free standing without the hassle of a wall fix
Easy to a chippy
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Originally Posted by
SLUDGE FACTORY
The little ones on wheels you can get from argos etc
Are they any good ?
With the energy bills as they are was thinking of grabbing a couple instead of firing up the central heating
Cheaper to run ?
Turn the heating on you tight fu**er
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Those heaters have mixed reviews on the sites Blue Matt posted. They look like electric heaters, what's the oil component?
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Originally Posted by
NinianOpinion1927
Those heaters have mixed reviews on the sites Blue Matt posted. They look like electric heaters, what's the oil component?
they are, Screwfix do oil filled though
https://www.screwfix.com/c/heating-p...-oilfilledrads
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NinianOpinion1927
Those heaters have mixed reviews on the sites Blue Matt posted. They look like electric heaters, what's the oil component?
From what I can gather oil filled radiators at say 1.5 kW cost the same as 1.5 kW Electric heaters wether that be convection or fan
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blue matt
So would the oil or electric version be cheaper or are the same if the kW rating is the same ?
Cheers
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Heathblue
Turn the heating on you tight fu**er
I am saving up for a ccfc wall clock
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SLUDGE FACTORY
Do these come free standing without the hassle of a wall fix
Easy to a chippy
they do, I always like to stay under 2KW, as we know the UK plug can handle that in one it without getting too hot
the 500 W Skirting rad's are fairly low cost to buy and run
maybe try one of them, if its not warm enough, you could get a 2nd to put in the room, even out the heat on 2 sides ( depends on the size of your room, you could just leave it on 24/7 )
https://www.screwfix.com/p/glen-2150...-x-211mm/992hv
500 W costs 14p a hour to run
the 1500 or 1800 W heater would be my choice though
https://www.toolstation.com/airmaste...-heater/p75252
https://www.toolstation.com/airmaste...-heater/p37573
Airmaster are a good brand
its free standing, under 2KW, plug in and feel the warmth
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SLUDGE FACTORY
From what I can gather oil filled radiators at say 1.5 kW cost the same as 1.5 kW Electric heaters wether that be convection or fan
thats how I understand it, 1500 W is 1500 W of power costs the same
the Oil will in theory give of slightly more heat as its made of fin shapes, so more surface area to warm up the air, but im not sure the %
the ones I listed that NO1927 said the reviews were mixed, they are cheap as hell, so they will never be as good as the £150 heaters
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SLUDGE FACTORY
So would the oil or electric version be cheaper or are the same if the kW rating is the same ?
Cheers
as I said above, I was under the impression that 1500 W is 1500 W and costs are similar , apart from the shape of the oil rad and the oil stays warm for longer, so you can turn the oil rad off and it'll stay warm for a while, but the downside to that is that the oil takes a while to warm up ( thus needs to be on longer )
just did a quick search and I still think its a much of muchness
https://www.jackstonehouse.com/blog/...vector-heater/
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blue matt
thats how I understand it, 1500 W is 1500 W of power costs the same
the Oil will in theory give of slightly more heat as its made of fin shapes, so more surface area to warm up the air, but im not sure the %
the ones I listed that NO1927 said the reviews were mixed, they are cheap as hell, so they will never be as good as the £150 heaters
Cheers matt
I hear the same about the fin rads but those skirting panel type look good
Either way if I go for 1 kW it's going to be cheaper in a couple of rooms than firing up the big boys
Nice one
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blue matt
as I said above, I was under the impression that 1500 W is 1500 W and costs are similar , apart from the shape of the oil rad and the oil stays warm for longer, so you can turn the oil rad off and it'll stay warm for a while, but the downside to that is that the oil takes a while to warm up ( thus needs to be on longer )
just did a quick search and I still think its a much of muchness
https://www.jackstonehouse.com/blog/...vector-heater/
Appreciate this
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SLUDGE FACTORY
Appreciate this
:thumbup:
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Been through all this.
Oil-filled rads are more expensive to run in one small room than a halogen heater (around £24 to buy, and about 13p an hour to run on lowest setting ).
Having researched the Dyson AM, and prepared to shell out £400, I am not convinced they are economical. The promoted running cost seems to be based on the cooling phase not heating. If this was exceptionally cheap to heat a room, it would be trumpeted all over the internet. It isn't. There's a reason for that. Also, there is still an issue with noise at the higher settings.
Do not use an electrical fire - far too expensive.
We have a blast of central heating all through the house first thing in the morning cos I am concerned about the fabric of the house and condensation. There is also the option of using TRVs to turn off the heating in individual rooms not used. Then, we use either the gas fire and/or the halogen heater depending whether one or two rooms are being used.
We also 'Karcher' the windows in the morning to get rid the condensation. Takes five mins.
To be warm is so important for one's physical and mental wellbeing, and we need to bite the bullet of high fuel bills.
We installed a new heating system and gas fire about a year ago which are super efficient and I also renewed the loft insulation about the same time.
Taking all these steps is pretty obvious. The alternative is hot water bottles, multiple layers of clothing, blankets and bobble hats. Three or four months of that a year is a living nightmare IMO.
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Cyclops
Been through all this.
Oil-filled rads are more expensive to run in one small room than a halogen heater (around £24 to buy, and about 13p an hour to run on lowest setting ).
Having researched the Dyson AM, and prepared to shell out £400, I am not convinced they are economical. The promoted running cost seems to be based on the cooling phase not heating. If this was exceptionally cheap to heat a room, it would be trumpeted all over the internet. It isn't. There's a reason for that. Also, there is still an issue with noise at the higher settings.
Do not use an electrical fire - far too expensive.
We have a blast of central heating all through the house first thing in the morning cos I am concerned about the fabric of the house and condensation. There is also the option of using TRVs to turn off the heating in individual rooms not used. Then, we use either the gas fire and/or the halogen heater depending whether one or two rooms are being used.
We also 'Karcher' the windows in the morning to get rid the condensation. Takes five mins.
To be warm is so important for one's physical and mental wellbeing, and we need to bite the bullet of high fuel bills.
We installed a new heating system and gas fire about a year ago which are super efficient and I also renewed the loft insulation about the same time.
Taking all these steps is pretty obvious. The alternative is hot water bottles, multiple layers of clothing, blankets and bobble hats. Three or four months of that a year is a living nightmare IMO.
Halogen heaters are the same cost as electric fires as oil radiators as far as I van work out ?
A 1.5 kW heater , fire or radiator all use that energy which is the cost ?
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Originally Posted by
Cyclops
Been through all this.
Oil-filled rads are more expensive to run in one small room than a halogen heater (around £24 to buy, and about 13p an hour to run on lowest setting ).
Having researched the Dyson AM, and prepared to shell out £400, I am not convinced they are economical. The promoted running cost seems to be based on the cooling phase not heating. If this was exceptionally cheap to heat a room, it would be trumpeted all over the internet. It isn't. There's a reason for that. Also, there is still an issue with noise at the higher settings.
Do not use an electrical fire - far too expensive.
We have a blast of central heating all through the house first thing in the morning cos I am concerned about the fabric of the house and condensation. There is also the option of using TRVs to turn off the heating in individual rooms not used. Then, we use either the gas fire and/or the halogen heater depending whether one or two rooms are being used.
We also 'Karcher' the windows in the morning to get rid the condensation. Takes five mins.
To be warm is so important for one's physical and mental wellbeing, and we need to bite the bullet of high fuel bills.
We installed a new heating system and gas fire about a year ago which are super efficient and I also renewed the loft insulation about the same time.
Taking all these steps is pretty obvious. The alternative is hot water bottles, multiple layers of clothing, blankets and bobble hats. Three or four months of that a year is a living nightmare IMO.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/recommen...20a%20radiator
According to this oil filled radiators on a low setting are the cheapest , halogen heaters more pricey
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If you want to heat an area by 10 degrees it doesn't matter the power rating or type of heater - it will always cost the same in electricity usage. That's assuming the heaters have the same efficiency (they are all about 98-99% efficient).
The only things you need to consider regarding what type/ power to buy is how quickly do you want to heat the room and how much do you want to pay for a heater. Source: My mate did his Physics doctorate on heating systems and I asked him!
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PhyllisStant
If you want to heat an area by 10 degrees it doesn't matter the power rating or type of heater - it will always cost the same in electricity usage. That's assuming the heaters have the same efficiency (they are all about 98-99% efficient).
The only things you need to consider regarding what type/ power to buy is how quickly do you want to heat the room and how much do you want to pay for a heater. Source: My mate did his Physics doctorate on heating systems and I asked him!
from the links above, Oil filled takes longer to heat
Im a firm believer of a small amount of heat ( low W heater ) on for longer, but having said that, 12 hours of a 500 W heater will cost the same as a 1000 W on for 6 hours, so it doesnt make sense what I believe in :hehe::hehe:
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Originally Posted by
PhyllisStant
If you want to heat an area by 10 degrees it doesn't matter the power rating or type of heater - it will always cost the same in electricity usage. That's assuming the heaters have the same efficiency (they are all about 98-99% efficient).
The only things you need to consider regarding what type/ power to buy is how quickly do you want to heat the room and how much do you want to pay for a heater. Source: My mate did his Physics doctorate on heating systems and I asked him!
Listen sonny
Give it to me straight
A 1.5 kW oil radiator
Or a 1.5 kW halogen heater
What's the best way of cheaply and efficiently heating a front room
Keep it simple , I am an idiot
Cheers
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Originally Posted by
blue matt
from the links above, Oil filled takes longer to heat
Im a firm believer of a small amount of heat ( low W heater ) on for longer, but having said that, 12 hours of a 500 W heater will cost the same as a 1000 W on for 6 hours, so it doesnt make sense what I believe in :hehe::hehe:
As above
Keep it simple for idiots like me
As you were