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FAO the fans who are attending the meeting
Are you going to canvass questions from fans on here & ****, or are you just going to turn up with your own questions to ask? Only the Trust have got a mandate to talk on behalf of it's members, the rest of you are basically representing yourselves.
I know your views are pretty much shared by most, if not all of us on these boards these days, but meetings like this don't come along very often, so to get the maximum out if it don't you think you should at least find out specific questions & concerns off us to put to the club?
If we want the club to be transparent the fans need to be aswell.
If it turns out that we (as in the uninvited fans) can add nothing that you weren't planning to ask anyway, at least give us the opportunity to find that out beforehand so we know we are definitely 100% on the same page beforehand.
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Ever since the rebrand came about we've had post after post about who's being represented by who and how Person A might have a different view to Person B who has a similar view to Person C but isn't quite the same as that of Person D who's pretty much on the same pages as Person E who wholeheartedly agrees with Person A who completely disagrees with Person F who is in fact best mates with Person B.
The fans tied themselves up in knots from the beginning and it's half the reason we're in the mess we're in.
It's simple - do you want a return to blue or not? Whichever way you have someone representing you okay?
I'm no fan of the way the club is run but do you expect them to wade through the drivel of 20,000 season ticket holders?
No?
So you agree that a cross-section of the support is the best the club can do to garner opinion?
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Originally Posted by Riled Taff wrote on Tue, 06 January 2015 09:36
All fine and well but what about MY opinion. http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/getmycoat.gif
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Should the meeting only be about a return to blue or should other issues, such as converting debt to equity, season ticket prices and so on, be raised?
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Originally Posted by RichardM wrote on Tue, 06 January 2015 09:45
Should the meeting only be about a return to blue or should other issues, such as converting debt to equity, season ticket prices and so on, be raised?
Although to be honest, my main concern over the meeting isn't the fans' representation, it's the club's; just how much of this forum will Tan a) be told about, b) give a toss about and c) act on?
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I thought it was a return to blue or we dont renew meeting.
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There doesn't need to be a cross-section of 40 fans to tell them just that.
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Originally Posted by Phil1927 wrote on Tue, 06 January 2015 11:04
There doesn't need to be a cross-section of 40 fans to tell them just that.
Its certainly my main gripe.
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Everyone is assuming that the club has arranged this to gauge opinion, Tan could very well be issuing some kind of ultimatum. Lots of us fell for "Red or Dead"
Let us hope that he will listen, change the shirt and badge next season and announce debt to equity transfer.
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Originally Posted by seethatbluebirdfly wrote on Tue, 06 January 2015 11:28
Everyone is assuming that the club has arranged this to gauge opinion, Tan could very well be issuing some kind of ultimatum. Lots of us fell for "Red or Dead"
No it will be an ultimatum in which case I feel we should tell him that we wish to return to blue. If we drop down the divisions etc so be it. Will the wider fan base wish this though?
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Originally Posted by nathansfmachine wrote on Tue, 06 January 2015 11:33
Everyone is assuming that the club has arranged this to gauge opinion, Tan could very well be issuing some kind of ultimatum. Lots of us fell for "Red or Dead"
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Originally Posted by seethatbluebirdfly wrote on Tue, 06 January 2015 11:28
Let us hope that he will listen, change the shirt and badge next season and announce debt to equity transfer.
My guess is Friday's attendance has got them rattled and there'll be a lot of promises made, whether they are fulfilled or not will be another matter
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Originally Posted by Riled Taff wrote on Tue, 06 January 2015 11:40
My guess is Friday's attendance has got them rattled
I think there's some truth in this. I also think that the allegedly poisonous atmosphere in the stadium is a concern to them, as are the numbers that are actually turning up to support the team (club officials will know the truth on that score).
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If people think that Tan is going to change the badge and colours back then you're massively mistaken.
It's just not going to happen.
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Originally Posted by Steve R wrote on Tue, 06 January 2015 12:12
If people think that Tan is going to change the badge and colours back then you're massively mistaken.
I share this opinion.
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Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman wrote on Tue, 06 January 2015 12:07
My guess is Friday's attendance has got them rattled
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Originally Posted by Riled Taff wrote on Tue, 06 January 2015 11:40
I think there's some truth in this. I also think that the allegedly poisonous atmosphere in the stadium is a concern to them, as are the numbers that are actually turning up to support the team (club officials will know the truth on that score).
Its time to squeeze the little bastard.
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Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman wrote on Tue, 06 January 2015 12:07
My guess is Friday's attendance has got them rattled
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Originally Posted by Riled Taff wrote on Tue, 06 January 2015 11:40
I think there's some truth in this. I also think that the allegedly poisonous atmosphere in the stadium is a concern to them, as are the numbers that are actually turning up to support the team (club officials will know the truth on that score).
It may indeed be more than coincidental that the meeting has been called after that game, especially when only two weeks ago Tan made an announcement to dug his heels in.
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Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman wrote on Tue, 06 January 2015 12:15
If people think that Tan is going to change the badge and colours back then you're massively mistaken.
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Originally Posted by Steve R wrote on Tue, 06 January 2015 12:12
It's just not going to happen.
Having a meeting then saying no blue will do even more damage than no meeting at all.
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Originally Posted by Steve R wrote on Tue, 06 January 2015 12:12
If people think that Tan is going to change the badge and colours back then you're massively mistaken.
If he doesn't listen then he can have no complaints when people take direct action.
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Originally Posted by Jimmy the Jock wrote on Tue, 06 January 2015 12:20
If people think that Tan is going to change the badge and colours back then you're massively mistaken.
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Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman wrote on Tue, 06 January 2015 12:15
It's just not going to happen.
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Originally Posted by Steve R wrote on Tue, 06 January 2015 12:12
I share this opinion.
Are the club trying to buy time? "We'll open dialogue blah blah blah, the club faces financial difficulties blah blah blah, if fans don't renew players will be sold blah blah blah".
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I have a sneaking suspicion that what we are about to see is
a compromise Vincent Tan style.
I believe that he is not going to waiver over the colour of the shirts but I have a feeling that we could be offered back the old club badge as a way of compromise.
For me, it would be a futile move and one that I don't believe would make much difference to the fan base but I could be wrong.
For me its about the colour, I could handle the change in badge as it has happened before and will happen again no doubt but the move away from our traditional colour is the poison that is killing he club im my humble opinion.
I was offered the chance to go to the meeting but could not make it, but I am confident that the travel group operators and others will be able to put across the feelings of the majority.
I have to be honest though, I am a bit perplexed as to why some individuals have been invited to this meeting, its as if the club
never learn.
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Originally Posted by Loya Jirga wrote on Tue, 06 January 2015 12:25
If people think that Tan is going to change the badge and colours back then you're massively mistaken.
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Originally Posted by Jimmy the Jock wrote on Tue, 06 January 2015 12:20
It's just not going to happen.
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Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman wrote on Tue, 06 January 2015 12:15
I share this opinion.
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Originally Posted by Steve R wrote on Tue, 06 January 2015 12:12
The situation is deteriorating by the day almost. The more unhappy the fans become the harder for the team to do well, its
The old 'Ridsdale Manoeuvre'....
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Originally Posted by Loya Jirga wrote on Tue, 06 January 2015 12:25
If people think that Tan is going to change the badge and colours back then you're massively mistaken.
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Originally Posted by Jimmy the Jock wrote on Tue, 06 January 2015 12:20
It's just not going to happen.
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Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman wrote on Tue, 06 January 2015 12:15
I share this opinion.
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Originally Posted by Steve R wrote on Tue, 06 January 2015 12:12
The situation is deteriorating by the day almost. The more unhappy the fans become the harder for the team to do well, its
This time next year it will become apparent what was on offer was a piece of sodden earth
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Originally Posted by Cannavaro wrote on Tue, 06 January 2015 12:26
I have a sneaking suspicion that what we are about to see is
I refer you to my post below the OP - what else are they supposed to do?
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Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman wrote on Tue, 06 January 2015 12:07
My guess is Friday's attendance has got them rattled
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Originally Posted by Riled Taff wrote on Tue, 06 January 2015 11:40
I think there's some truth in this. I also think that the allegedly poisonous atmosphere in the stadium is a concern to them, as are the numbers that are actually turning up to support the team (club officials will know the truth on that score).
Apparently, a crowd less than 20,000 translates into a 75% reduction in advertising revenue, this would explain the seemingly exaggerated attendance figures.
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Originally Posted by Riled Taff wrote on Tue, 06 January 2015 09:36
the last time a cross section of support was consulted we ended up with a change of kit.
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Originally Posted by nathansfmachine wrote on Tue, 06 January 2015 11:33
Everyone is assuming that the club has arranged this to gauge opinion, Tan could very well be issuing some kind of ultimatum. Lots of us fell for "Red or Dead"
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Originally Posted by seethatbluebirdfly wrote on Tue, 06 January 2015 11:28
Let us hope that he will listen, change the shirt and badge next season and announce debt to equity transfer.
A very good question. I wouldn't be happy for others to let it be thought I would welcome a freefall through the divisions just for a return to blue, however much I want to see us go back to blue.
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Originally Posted by Riled Taff wrote on Tue, 06 January 2015 12:30
I have a sneaking suspicion that what we are about to see is
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Originally Posted by Cannavaro wrote on Tue, 06 January 2015 12:26
a compromise Vincent Tan style.
(NOT WISE)
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Originally Posted by Riled Taff wrote on Tue, 06 January 2015 11:40
My guess is Friday's attendance has got them rattled
Season ticket renewals so I expect some "compromise" to be made in order to get renewals in not sure it will work though as I believe that the majority (not all!) are not renewing on cost / quality of football reasons NOT rebrand reasons despite what they may say.
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Originally Posted by Cannavaro wrote on Tue, 06 January 2015 12:44
I have a sneaking suspicion that what we are about to see is
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Originally Posted by Riled Taff wrote on Tue, 06 January 2015 12:30
a compromise Vincent Tan style.
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Originally Posted by Cannavaro wrote on Tue, 06 January 2015 12:26
I believe that he is not going to waiver over the colour of the shirts but I have a feeling that we could be offered back the old club badge as a way of compromise.
If the club does want to learn from their mistakes then they would do worse than begin by making sure Gwyn doesn't hijack this meeting and keep his input to a minimum.
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Originally Posted by Jimmy the Jock wrote on Tue, 06 January 2015 10:40
I thought it was a return to blue or we dont renew meeting.
that'll throw a spanner in the works http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/thumbup.gif
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Originally Posted by Cannavaro wrote on Tue, 06 January 2015 12:44
I have a sneaking suspicion that what we are about to see is
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Originally Posted by Riled Taff wrote on Tue, 06 January 2015 12:30
a compromise Vincent Tan style.
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Originally Posted by Cannavaro wrote on Tue, 06 January 2015 12:26
I believe that he is not going to waiver over the colour of the shirts but I have a feeling that we could be offered back the old club badge as a way of compromise.
what about red shirt burners ? ?? ?
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Tan says "No Blue, F**k You". Simples.
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Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman wrote on Tue, 06 January 2015 12:07
My guess is Friday's attendance has got them rattled
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Originally Posted by Riled Taff wrote on Tue, 06 January 2015 11:40
I think there's some truth in this. I also think that the allegedly poisonous atmosphere in the stadium is a concern to them, as are the numbers that are actually turning up to support the team (club officials will know the truth on that score).
Obviously we won't be able to get hold of this data for Thursday, but it might be a way to prove a point next time around, if we can show that there are really only 14-16k attending.
