Should hang his head in shame and beg for forgiveness with regards to his unfounded allegations against Leon Brittan.
The leadership of the Labour Party is an utter shambles, an embarrassment and a joke.
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Should hang his head in shame and beg for forgiveness with regards to his unfounded allegations against Leon Brittan.
The leadership of the Labour Party is an utter shambles, an embarrassment and a joke.
I'd have him in the midfield any day of the week http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/malky.gif
Has he apologised or has he just said sorry for any offence caused - which is not the same.
Why didnt he just go to the Police with the 'evidence' he had - rather than announce it ?
Have I got the right start here? Is this where tom Watson is accusing others of being paedophiles by association, specifically Leon Brittan?
His brother has now demanded an apology from both the police and Mr Watson.Watson apology was somewhat half heartedQuote:
Originally Posted by Feedback wrote on Sun, 11 October 2015 11:40
Did Watson have any evidence or was it just a smear campaign?
If Watson is looking to lay blame by association he would do well to check his own family tree first before throwing wild accusations around. After all he does come from a family whose members have been convicted of paedophilia. The Apple doesn't fall far from the tree.
What a stupid thing to say.Quote:
Originally Posted by Feedback wrote on Mon, 12 October 2015 09:01
This thread is remarkably quiet from some posters http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/sherlock.gif
While we are talking about politicians sticking their neck out to help people less fortunate let us give an honourable mention to Margaret Thatcher. Her tireless work to make sure Jimmy Savile's efforts as premier showbiz paedophile be recognised with a knighthood were truly admirable.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jimmy Jimmy wrote on Mon, 12 October 2015 11:36
I don't think political leanings come in to it certainly as far as I am concerned.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eric Cartman wrote on Mon, 12 October 2015 13:32
I agree. That's why tom Watson's claim that Brittan is guilty by association is so absurd. I'm glad you agree Watson is way off the mark here. Remember this is a potential future chancellor.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eric Cartman wrote on Mon, 12 October 2015 11:31
Hinsight is the most exact of sciences.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eric Cartman wrote on Mon, 12 October 2015 13:32
Watson was approached by people who claimed to be Lord Brittans victims, he wrote to the DPP to ask them to re-examine a case against him that had been previously closed. TW behaviour since has been distasteful.Quote:
Originally Posted by Feedback wrote on Mon, 12 October 2015 14:02
Exactly my point.Quote:
Originally Posted by Feedback wrote on Mon, 12 October 2015 14:03
Watson is completely out of order
But as this is clearly a poli5ically motivated thread, hence the reference to the labour party I would like to remind the obvious few of Thatcher's association with the murderer Pinochet
She knew what he was up to yet continued to associate with him
Don't be daft , you are a Tory , of course politics come into it with you , it always does , check out your post historyQuote:
Originally Posted by Elwood Blues wrote on Mon, 12 October 2015 13:50
where does it end though? Blair associated with the warmongering Bush. Each PM will make decisions at that time based on what they think is the nation's best interests based on the information to hand. As I've said to Eric Cartman, Hindsight is an exact science.Quote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY wrote on Mon, 12 October 2015 15:56
Fair point Blair was a complete ****Quote:
Originally Posted by Feedback wrote on Mon, 12 October 2015 16:19
This is my exact problem with the whole thing. Watson should be criticised for his conduct since but NOT for writing to the DPP and asking them to reopen the case. He is being criticised for both things by people who are using hindsight.Quote:
Originally Posted by Feedback wrote on Mon, 12 October 2015 16:19
The OP was completely party political, Croesy doesn't have an analytical bone in his body.Quote:
Originally Posted by Elwood Blues wrote on Mon, 12 October 2015 13:50
Exactly where does it end - I seem to remember Tony Blair hugging and kissing Gadafi in a tent , and Corbyn and CO praising the IRA.
Trying to lump this together with child abusers is absurd in the extreme.
Watson was and still is hiding behind the veil of 'I was just passing info on' whilst at the same letting it be known in public what he had done - 'all in the public interest of course'
He should have just left the Police to get on with it. He will say in his defence that maybe the Police were involved as well.
It's a complete mess - stirred up even more by Watson. McAlpine certainly saw an early death because of this.
It's appears now with hindsight that Watson was the self appointed Witch Hunter and that even the Guardian are questioning his integrity - when they do that to a Labour heavy weight like Watson - he should realise somethings up.
Watson "Brittan was close to evil" , straneg he shoudl say that when Watsons own uncle scoutmaster Peter Halliwell was jailed for child abuse against boys. I dont recall Watson ever saying that he himself was also close to evil http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/sherlock.gif
What does the bit in bold mean?Quote:
Originally Posted by Jimmy Jimmy wrote on Mon, 12 October 2015 16:52
"I would like to remind the obvious few of Thatcher's association with the murderer Pinochet"
http://www.ccmb.co.uk/legacy.php?t=g...8325&private=0Quote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY wrote on Mon, 12 October 2015 15:56
Hang on - using Watson's logic of being close to evil
Gerry Adams Brother was a convicted sex offender, Corbyn is Watson's boss and Watson's uncle is also a convicted sex offender - therefore Watson must also be guilty on some sort of sex crime using his own perverse logic
Labour scum etc etc etc - of course on here it is usually 'tory scum'
I can't remember such a vile collection of creatures as this current shadow cabinetQuote:
Originally Posted by Jimmy Jimmy wrote on Mon, 12 October 2015 18:42
Is it a full moon?
http://www.ccmb.co.uk/legacy.php?t=g...8326&private=0Quote:
Originally Posted by Eric Cartman wrote on Mon, 12 October 2015 19:02
I admit being a fan of Watson, unlike a lot of politicians he has had the balls to stand up for the victims of injustices , however if he is wrong in this case then he should apologies .
I like another poster admit to not knowing enough about this matter nor does anyone else who has commented since in trying to score political points ,
We are aware a lot of very unsavory acts appear to be have been committed around this time to very young vulnerable children , with suggestions that the establishment were aware or involved ?? and the Tory Government was in power at the time.
I would be shocked if Tom Watson made this up on the hoof,I think he should be brave and name his sources which drove him to announce these allegations , he is safe under Parliamentary privilege to do so .
C'mon Tom put up or shut up and apologies and lets go after the buggers and shame them if they exist.
The whole thing disgusts me to the core
They are all a vile collection of creatures, both sides, Piers Corbyn (Jezzers brother) is a strange character too, been on the Alex (shill) Jones show, says a lot http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/hehe.gifQuote:
Originally Posted by goslow wrote on Mon, 12 October 2015 18:51
I to think Watson is something different and at last gives Labour a left wing mouth piece - along with Corbyn obviously.
In this case though he needs to apologise - and also realise he is not a policeman - just another over weight opinionated politician
Isn't he a climate change,now I don't want to say denier but can't think of a word that works http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/hehe.gifQuote:
Originally Posted by Mrs Steve R wrote on Mon, 12 October 2015 19:32
http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/hehe.gif Why don't you want to say denier?Quote:
Originally Posted by goslow wrote on Mon, 12 October 2015 19:47
He acted like an opinionated person tbf to him. He asked the 'police' to investigate the claims that had been brought to his attention, they did. He then should have been quiet about the whole thing but of course he wasn't.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jimmy Jimmy wrote on Mon, 12 October 2015 19:34
Whilst Watsons shame continues to deepen day by day, hour by hour, minute by minute.
What a loathsome individual this one actually is. Given the chance to apologise to Lady Brittan, he chose not to.
Vile creature.
I associate the word 'denier' with the holocaust denying wretches but climate challengers at least use science to question it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mrs Steve R wrote on Mon, 12 October 2015 19:51
'Challengers ' that will do.
Fair enough, I don't associate that word with the holocaust unless it comes after if, hence why I didn't know what you meant.Quote:
Originally Posted by goslow wrote on Mon, 12 October 2015 20:41
And you are doing your best to continue it , if you cared about the bloke you would write to Mr Watson not bump your gums on hereQuote:
Originally Posted by Elysium wrote on Mon, 12 October 2015 20:02
The Tories know exactly what they are up to when they use that term , its well below the beltQuote:
Originally Posted by Mrs Steve R wrote on Mon, 12 October 2015 20:51