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Now a bomb has gone off in their Metro station, :frown:Quote:
Originally Posted by Igovernor
Close our borders now!
It's far too late unfortunately.Quote:
Originally Posted by Igovernor
Tasteless and badly timed 'observation'.Quote:
Originally Posted by Igovernor
Unsurprising from you TBF.
Me & the Mrs were watching that programme last night about the staff on the London underground.
The amount of people in such a small enclosed space is frightening.
Really?Quote:
Originally Posted by Vimana.
Yes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Igovernor
It would likely take all day to explain any alternative outlook to you, so I will leave you to your insightful and well thought out theories on Terrorism prevention.
RIP those who have died.
Yes RIP to those that have been murdered and sympathies to those that have been injuredQuote:
Originally Posted by Vimana.
Sometimes humour is too near the truth.
http://dilbert.com/strip/2016-03-22
No need, the answer is all the counties in the world to get together, and wipe out IS and sort syria out to stop them training terrorists and bring peace there. If governments of the world had the inclination to do that it could be done, then perhaps there would be lives saved, not like the poor people who have died today!Quote:
Originally Posted by Vimana.
BBC already getting People onto the Radio to tell us that we have to live together in peace and harmony and it's nothing to do with Muslims, just social deprivation.
A noble ideal, however that's all it is.Quote:
Originally Posted by Igovernor
I think it safe to assume that the terrorists who carried out this atrocity were Belgian citizens.
If, God forbid, an attack happens here, chances are the terrorists who will carry it out will be born and bred in Britain, so it's not as simple as carpet bombing Raqqa - which we're doing anyway, or closing the borders.
BBC: The blasts come days after the capture of Salah Abdeslam, the main suspect in the Paris attacks in November.Quote:
Originally Posted by A Quiet Monkfish
^^^ thisQuote:
Originally Posted by Igovernor
while Raqqa still exists as the Daesh capital without any outside influence, they will just be churning out more and more terrorists, we have been told they have set-up the schools to teach the youngsters, yet we sit by and watch
yet by them having a cause ( in Daesh ) and them thinking they have a genuine Jihad cause, it makes it easier for Daesh to recruit these homegrown terroristsQuote:
Originally Posted by TH63
This is a problem we cannot combat, more security to the doors of airports, then you have a line of people waiting to get in and they are the target
RIP all who were murdered today
It really is a fantastic idea and one that I'm surprised the powers that be haven't considered.Quote:
Originally Posted by blue matt
We could have our first Nobel peace prize winner on CCMB
Indeed. Hopefully GCHQ are monitoring this site and will present these ideas to the Government's Cobra meeting this morning.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rhiw-Blue
CCMB has come up with the answer to end global terrorism and it isn't even 10 am yet.
All we have to do is get together and stop them training terrorists. It really is so simple when you put it like that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Igovernor
First and foremost ... it suits our governments to have a number of these idiots roaming around, they can then control us with fear and do whatever they want. What will you all achieve by getting angry? Nothing ! The power men won't listen to us plebs .... they have their own agenda ....
Which leads us to point 2: Greed. By flooding Western countries with all kinds of migrants and refugees, labour costs are driven down and so are wages. Do you really think people like Merkel give a flying f**k about people's needs?
Ideally, skilled migrants and genuine refugees would be welcome ..... but, see point 2 .......... and point 1 ........ The governments pay lip service and tell lies to suit their agenda. Come on folks, this isn't even a conspiracy ... it's clear as day.
On paper, it would look a great idea for The UK to leave the EU .... we could possibly control our borders and decide on the people we want coming here, and ghettoes wouldn't be appearing (like in Belgium, France and Holland - soon Germany), which are perfect places to drum up support and sympathy for an evil ideology (an ideology which makes no sense - but the brainwashed change the rules as they go along). In reality - whatever we vote, won't change government decisions - or help provide a crack-down on terrorits - who governments can use to their advantage.
Until recently, I used to think that the far left were FAR more dangerous than the far right. The far right are/were seen as dangerous (without actually doing anything) and as soon as the word "racist" is used ... end of story. The far left though shout the loudest and are given a lot of media time ..... they want to preach peace and opportunity for everyone without even wanting to think of the consequences ............ but then I realised ...... None of it matters. It doesn't matter if you're left, right, neutral ... even, bl**dy alien. No-one really listens. The elite, who have always controlled ......... will always control.
The main enemy ... of every country ... are the greedy governments who play games with our lives. Don't bother wasting your time getting worked-up. You can't change it. Just accept the control.
yet what we are doing now is working so well eh ? ? ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Rhiw-Blue
the status quo as it stands is not working that is plain to see today with the deaths of these innocent people at the AA check-in desks
I wonder if you have the answer ? ? ?
As you said what we are doing at the moment (already bombing them) isn't working yet you want to increase it?Quote:
Originally Posted by blue matt
Agreed, using people's deaths to push a stupid agenda.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vimana.
People need to realise we are dealing with an ideology not a nation or a race of people.Quote:
Originally Posted by TruBlue
We could bomb Syria in to dust and it still wouldn't stop it, if anything I think it encourages it as we give the innocent people a reason to become radicalised.
we are bombing select targets outside raqqaQuote:
Originally Posted by TruBlue
do you really think we are using out 100 % air power to bomb Raqqa ? ?
Your ideas are .......... useless and will be unheard. You are playing these scenarios in your own heads.
What is the point of fighting against each other? This is what our rogue, corrupt governments want. They can control us by our division. It is when we all point in their direction that they will know ... well, that the people know. Yet, then, will anything change? Will we be shot, tasered and beaten by our own security forces?
It surely cannot be helping that they have a " capital " and have schools and have a air of legitimacyQuote:
Originally Posted by Croesy Blue
The guy from Sky is now explaining that the Brussels lot had been to Syria and trained and radicalised even more, only to return to europe
I don't proclaim to know that much about politics, terrorism etc. but maybe the answer is to stop poking our nose into other countries affairs and then acting surprised when they take great offence to it?Quote:
Originally Posted by blue matt
As somebody posted above, this whole situation has nothing to do with the average Muslim any more than it has to do the average Cardiff city fan. It's the same old story of power hungry arseholes at the top of the tree on both sides with an agenda, while the 'normal' people pay the price. It's been that way since the beginning of civilisation and it'll probably always be that way.
I wonder how many politicians kids have been to Iraq or Afghanistan?
As I heard once in a song "Don't say you do this for us,when you don't even know who we are"
RIP to all the victims.
....... and the EU turned a "blind eye"? Yeah, right.Quote:
Originally Posted by blue matt
Well we haven't dropped any nukes yet.........Quote:
Originally Posted by blue matt
I think you lived in China for too long.Quote:
Originally Posted by CCFC_Urawa_Reds
No one here thinks we are going to change things, but it's a discussion board, we aren't really trying to form government policy.
History should tell you to take very little of what comes out of immediate news reports at face value.Quote:
Originally Posted by blue matt
I have no idea, but as I think bombing these countries is what causes the situation in the first place I'm not sure I'd really think bombing more is the best idea.Quote:
Originally Posted by blue matt
As you said "what we are doing now is working so well eh"
Surely that should make it easier for us, keep an eye on anyone making trips to Syria.Quote:
Originally Posted by blue matt
I think you're taking what you read in the news too much at face value. Rather than bombing a country and radicalising more we should actually be looking at the root causes of terrorism. This isn't like the IRA or any threat we've faced in the past because it's an ideology with no chance of a peace process etc.
Unfortunately in an over populated world with massive inequality you will get events like this, we need to see why people are getting indoctrinated and try and cut it off there.
Bombing syria like bombing Afghanistan and Iraq will just increase terrorism.
This.Quote:
Originally Posted by CCFC_Urawa_Reds
Excellent post.
We have no say in any of it. The moneyed hold all the aces. End of.
Exactly.Quote:
Originally Posted by CCFC_Urawa_Reds
do you think using 100#% of our air power to bomb Raqqa would result in more or less terrorist reqruitment?Quote:
Originally Posted by blue matt
What proportion of the people in Raqqa are terrorists?
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Originally Posted by Dr Lecter
IMHO, part right, part wrong. It's wrong to poke noses into anyone else's business. Until, of course, we think it's right to. eg, a man beating up a woman holding a baby.....do we walk away or not ? Probably not. I'd like to think that everyone on here would interfere.
As Brigitte Gabriel famously said, the average muslim is irrelevant. They don't do bombs or beheadings - they take the kids to school and then go to work to pay the mortgage and the bills. The peaceful majority are irrelevant in this scenario, as were the majority of Germans in 1939-1945, and the average person in China during Mao's regime, or the average Russian under Stalin, or the average Cambodian under Pol Pot, etc, etc, etc, etc. The people who matter are the ones who kill. A tiny minority of course, but the average muslim doesn't know them, or identify with them, or sympathise with them. yet these cnuts still murder people en masse.
Unfortunately, and I hate to say it, as I know what I'll get called, but the start is to do what Trump says; no more muslims until we know who they are. It is beyond any sense to allow a million people into a zone, knowing that a percentage will be terrorist murderers. The countries suffering "terrorist attacks in the name of allah" are the countries with significant muslim populations, aren't they ? Perhaps I'm wrong. Millions of Central Africans might agree with the theory that as the percentage of muslims in a population increases, so do the number of sectarian killings/attrocities. Do facts prove me wrong ? Tell me if they do.
Japan. I'm guessing that the residents of Tokyo fear no terrorist attacks in the name of allah. Tell me why is that ? Foreign policy?
What ever would that achieve?Quote:
Originally Posted by Igovernor