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I was very surprised to see on the news that with 50 dead, this makes it the deadliest mass shooting in US history.
...and yet they claim to have a "god-given" right to bear arms...spastics.
RIP to the dead.
Anyone offering odds on the US government to be able to reform any gun law in any way ever?
Shocking. RIP to the dead.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ainsley Harriott
The problem is, American Peresidents swear an oath to defend the constitution, part of that constitution is the right to bear arms, so probably political suicide to even go there.
The problem is also that the genie is out of the bottle. There are millions of guns out there, so even if they were to be banned, who's going to try and get them handed in? There's is also a huge arms industry.
But my personal opinion, is while I can almost understand the desire to own a hand gun for self defence, why anyone needs a military grade assault rifle is beyond me.
Weren't assault rifles (attempted to be) banned by the Obama administration? The National Rifle Association (a group you'd always love to be in power on your country) blocked this move by Obama.
The 2nd ammendment to the US consitution allows the right to bear arms (an ammendment the the original, remember) as part of a "well-regulated militia again to the tyranny of government.
2nd ammendment....out of 27.
Some of those ammendments to the original have gone against the original constitution, and some have gone against the last ammendment (see prohibition in the '20s).
There's nothing stopping the American people outlawing firearms apart from themselves.
R.i.p all Who died,
not including the gunman, he can rot
I don't know how many people need to be shot before they wake up and realise they need better gun control out there rather than let any tom dick or harry carry a leathal weapon shocking but not surprising RIP to all
The religion of peace and tolerance strikes again.
For ****s sake give it a rest.Quote:
Originally Posted by goslow
In fairness, this one seems to be an Afghan guy who just happens to despise gays, and so felt the need to slaughter them (rather than someone who believes that the almighty Allah has commanded him to kill the infidel).Quote:
Originally Posted by goslow
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Originally Posted by Ainsley Harriott
His book of fairytales tells him that gays are too be killed so I'd say it's very much to do with his rancid death cult.
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Originally Posted by jeepster
Why,does the truth upset you?
To be fair, he did pledge allegiance to IS before the killing apparently.
Imagine if the killers of Lee Rigby had easy access to assault rifles...
no it is the utter ****ing trash you post, knobQuote:
Originally Posted by goslow
Goslow The truth is your islamophobic.
I said in a thread that "All the English are smashing the place up". I was wrong I should have said "Some of the English".
You Get it ball bag
Oops. Sorry, I didn't see that piece of the news when posting.Quote:
Originally Posted by Richyrich
Apologies to Goslow...seems the big book of fairytales is at fault yet again.
https://themuslimissue.wordpress.com...y-in-the-quranQuote:
Originally Posted by goslow
The Qur'an does not say stuff about LGBTs
Daesh are not Muslims tho, how is killing innocent people and committing suicide, two of the worst sins, encouraged in the Holy Qur'an?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ainsley Harriott
RIP to the dead
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Originally Posted by tigerbaybluebird
I don't fear muslims,I pity them,like I pity all the weak minded who have been brainwashed.
Abu Dawud (4462) - The Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) said, "Whoever you find doing the action of the people of Loot, execute the one who does it and the one to whom it is done.".Quote:
Originally Posted by adz-a32
Abu Dawud (4448) - "If a man who is not married is seized committing sodomy, he will be stoned to death." (Note the implicit approval of sodomizing one's wife).
Bukhari (72:774) - "The Prophet cursed effeminate men (those men who are in the similitude (assume the manners of women) and those women who assume the manners of men, and he said, 'Turn them out of your houses .' The Prophet turned out such-and-such man, and 'Umar turned out such-and-such woman."
al-Tirmidhi, Sunan 1:152 - [Muhammad said] "Whoever is found conducting himself in the manner of the people of Lot, kill the doer and the receiver."
Reliance of the Traveller, p17.2 - "May Allah curse him who does what Lot's people did
Most Imams disagree with you.Quote:
Originally Posted by adz-a32
Adz's why do you even identify as a muslim? Most of your views seem to be a direct contradiction to it. Is it family pressure?
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Originally Posted by jeepster
Dry your eyes princess.
The awkward moment when no-one reads the article that I posted
My views are not a contradiction, Islam is a progressive religion, just is that you lot don't know anything about it and are making assumptions. Seriously, do you lot have nothing better to do rather than bash a religion to score points? I am Muslim coz I wanna be one, not due to any pressures. My advice is to let go of your Islamophobic prejudices and don't listen to the media or extreme viewpoints
What are you on? And I believe in a God, that's the main reason why I'm MuslimQuote:
Originally Posted by Richyrich
Never in my time on this message board have I understood why you seem to hold the holy decision on who's Muslim and who isn't...Quote:
Originally Posted by adz-a32
That's your response? I dont have the authorities but there are fatwas saying Daesh are not MuslimQuote:
Originally Posted by Ainsley Harriott
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Originally Posted by jamieccfc
Any gun control measures brought in now will,unfortunately be at least a hundred years to late,there are far to many guns in circulation.
:hehe: has it reached the 12th century yet?Quote:
Originally Posted by adz-a32
Dry my eyes,wash your mouth out bitch,:thumbup:Quote:
Originally Posted by goslow
RIP the dead
the Guys dad says it wasnt nothing to do with religion, yet a news channel is reporting he phoned the emergency services and pledged his allegiance to Daesh
you might or might not know, in Orlando the Police do security of theme parks ( both disney and Universal ) and bars and other public events when not on duty, I havent read if this bar had one doing it ? ? but as its gay pride week ( dont wear red to disney during this week if you dont want people to think you are gay ) i guess they might have, so not sure what went on with that
Security at Disney may as well be done by Donald Duck tbfQuote:
Originally Posted by blue matt
You, and your clerics may say that, the problem is that IS think they are Muslim, and are carrying out these atrocities, if not in your name, the name of your religion,Quote:
Originally Posted by adz-a32
if anyone is still in any doubt about how properly mental US gun laws are, a man who was twice investigated by the FBI on suspicion of being a potential terrorist was legally able to buy one of these over the counter:
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They claim to to have a constitutional right, which in fact, they have. If you want to be a drama queen at least get your facts right.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ainsley Harriott
It's the seventh mass shooting in the US in just the last week. Bringing this guy's religion into it is missing the real problems that Americans have with guns.
Do you feel the same way about any effort to 'control' religion in USA or other western countries?Quote:
Originally Posted by goslow
OK, I live in the US. We need gun control. The reason is simple - no guns means less capacity for random deadly violence.
But this isn't just about the availability of weapons, there is an attitude issue too. The US leads the world in terms of the number of guns per capita but there are a lot of guns in, for instance, Canada too. Yet the Canadians have a murder rate that is about 10% of that in the US.
And we stay in the EU and let Turkey have free movement
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50 perverts killed in bar': Homophobic headline on Turkish newspaper website with strong ties to country's President Erdogan
Yeni Akit, a Turkish newspaper which has supported the likes of Al-Qaeda in the past and has ties with President Erdogan, broke news of the Orlando attack by calling victims 'perverts'.
What does the EU have to do with this? Turkey's not gonna join
http://www.itv.com/news/2016-06-12/c...ys-government/Quote:
Originally Posted by ninianclark
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016...in-the-eu-pri/