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Tory party leadership race
Weird to think that we left the EU due to part of it being unelected and now are going to have 4'ish years of an unelected PM, especially after the fuss that was kicked up when Gordon Brown tried it.
I guess the only question you have to ask is whether this is Cruz and Trump or Hilary and Trump - it certainly isn't '08 Obama or even '12 Obama.
May sounds like the sensible choice but her attacks on civil liberties time after time really suggests she isn't: https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...tory-candidate
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surge
Weird to think that we left the EU due to part of it being unelected and now are going to have 4'ish years of an unelected PM, especially after the fuss that was kicked up when Gordon Brown tried it.
I guess the only question you have to ask is whether this is Cruz and Trump or Hilary and Trump - it certainly isn't '08 Obama or even '12 Obama.
May sounds like the sensible choice but her attacks on civil liberties time after time really suggests she isn't:
https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...tory-candidate
Well perhaps its time for a new broom, interestingly when we see a world seeking broader choices as their leaders , we see the Tories once again at the forefront of women's power , and Labour never really committing to that choice , one might argue "what liberty ?? ".
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herberthuw
Well perhaps its time for a new broom, interestingly when we see a world seeking broader choices as their leaders , we see the Tories once again at the forefront of women's power , and Labour never really committing to that choice , one might argue "what liberty ?? ".
Women have liberty, perhaps none have been suitable in the past? I don't think they should hire women just because they are women.
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Both seem a bit loopy, please can we bring back Dodgy Dave? At least we know he's only lying when he speaks.
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Mrs Steve R
Women have liberty, perhaps none have been suitable in the past? I don't think they should hire women just because they are women.
In my experience their have been some very capable Labour dedicated women MP's , the party simply did not select them , strangely they probably had more than the Tories on pure head count over the years. :sherlock:
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herberthuw
In my experience their have been some very capable Labour dedicated women MP's , the party simply did not select them , strangely they probably had more than the Tories on pure head count over the years. :sherlock:
If a man and a woman go for a job like that and have exactly the same qualifications and are both suitable which would you choose?
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Mrs Steve R
If a man and a woman go for a job like that and have exactly the same qualifications and are both suitable which would you choose?
The one with the lovely big round t ..
Ooops.
No that's not right is it. Is it? .. no .. I was going to say qui .. ffs .. yes, qualifications .
Pheww .. I think I got away with that ..
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Mrs Steve R
If a man and a woman go for a job like that and have exactly the same qualifications and are both suitable which would you choose?
A woman just for a refresh ,as the blokes have made a right pigs ear of it really
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herberthuw
A woman just for a refresh ,as the blokes have made a right pigs ear of it really
And pictures exist apparently.
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Vimana.
The one with the lovely big round t ..
Ooops.
No that's not right is it. Is it? .. no .. I was going to say qui .. ffs .. yes, qualifications .
Pheww .. I think I got away with that ..
:hehe: If you take your mind off the boobs for a moment you will see I said they have exactly the same qualifications.
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herberthuw
A woman just for a refresh ,as the blokes have made a right pigs ear of it really
Out of interest, excluding your mum, how many women have you lived with?
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Wales-Bales
Both seem a bit loopy, please can we bring back Dodgy Dave? At least we know he's only lying when he speaks.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-36752865
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And pictures exist apparently.
There will be none of that once our "Matron" May takes over , she believes in the injustice of animals , and these lurid conversations /suggestions will be taken down from social networking sites .
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Theresa May's pitch is getting very interesting. She is the Tory establishment candidate and the one with experience, but she doesn't appear to be playing it as safe as she could:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-36760953
Outlining her plans to reform corporate governance, she will hit out at the way non-executive directors who are supposed to provide oversight of the way firms are run often come from the same "narrow social and professional circles" as the executive team and "the scrutiny they provide is just not good enough".
She will say: "So if I'm prime minister, we're going to change that system - and we're going to have not just consumers represented on company boards, but workers as well."
Outlining some of the social issues she wants to address, Mrs May will say: "Right now, if you're born poor, you will die on average nine years earlier than others.
"If you're black, you're treated more harshly by the criminal justice system than if you're white. If you're a white, working-class boy, you're less likely than anybody else to go to university. If you're at a state school, you're less likely to reach the top professions than if you're educated privately.
"If you're a woman, you still earn less than a man. If you suffer from mental health problems, there's too often not enough help to hand. If you're young, you'll find it harder than ever before to own your own home."
She will say that "fighting these injustices is not enough", and add: "If you're from a working-class family, life is just much harder than many people in politics realise."
"These are the reasons why, under my leadership, the Conservative Party will put itself - completely, absolutely, unequivocally - at the service of working people," Mrs May will add.
Carry on like that an Len McCluskey will be campaigning for her!
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Seems like May is set to become PM without a grassroots vote. I love it when a plan comes together, this whole thing seems like an obvious setup, starting with May sitting on the fence during the referendum. What we are witnessing is the "Tory Plan B" that was formulated long before the referendum. Notice how conveniently all the Brexit campaigners fell by the wayside at key moments. It will be interesting to see what happens now.
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What is it with Brexiters an their total lack of stomach to deal with the mess they've made?
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ninianclark
Ledsome just announced she cant win it - she only has 25% of MP support, we dont need 2 months of political petty arguments and nonsense divisive debates (take note Labour) the country, business and just about everybody wants the Govt to get on with it.
Listening to Angela Eagles speak - her speech was more about uniting her party rather more inward looking - which I guess she has to given the circumstances
25% of MP support, but she was ahead with the grassroots supporters at local level, who are the ones who decide who is PM.
Incidentally, the local Conservative Associations don't like Theresa May much, hence they were never going to be allowed to vote on this issue.
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Theresa May vows to put Conservatives 'at service' of working people :hehe:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-36760953
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itkman
What is it with Brexiters an their total lack of stomach to deal with the mess they've made?
It's all scripted mate, everybody is just playing their part :thumbup:
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itkman
What is it with Brexiters an their total lack of stomach to deal with the mess they've made?
I think it's a case of "Oh crap, we've won, I didn't see that happening, now what do we do? I know, let someone else sort it out"
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TH63
I think it's a case of "Oh crap, we've won, I didn't see that happening, now what do we do? I know, let someone else sort it out"
This may be what the Tory press and the BBC want you to believe, but the vast majority of people on Twitter and other social media aren't buying it, they are calling it for exactly what it is - a stitch-up.
Here is one of the more friendly viewpoints .. :-)
"Theresa May genuinely just won a leadership election by standing still and letting everyone else fall on the sword of their own ineptitude."
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ninianclark
Here is a conspiracy theory , Ledsome knows she cant win, so rather than annouce it this morning, she waits until May makes her first speech of the campaign - where she all things that Labour supporters want to here - tackling big business, corporation tax dodgers like Google, FaceBook etc , then May goes on to say that Brexit is Brexit and that is it - basically trying to win over all of the Ledsome supporters - then once May has done that - Ledsome announces ok - get on with - lets not waste any time.
If Ledsome had announced she wasnt going to contest first thing this morning then Theresa May would not have made that speech.
Meanwhile Angela Eagles seems to think she is more electable than Corbyn ...... so disappointed in Labour as an 'effective' opposition - Corbyb is effective as an opposition - but totally hopeless as a leader of his party.
Yet more crazy times from Westminster - meanwhile back in the WAG they are talking about the bus route closure from BrynMawr to Ebbw Vale.
Ledsome knows she cant win? The local Conservative Associations would have put her in power, and that is why it is not being allowed to happen. They are all in on it :thumbup:
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Wales-Bales
This may be what the Tory press and the BBC want you to believe, but the vast majority of people on Twitter and other social media aren't buying it, they are calling it for exactly what it is - a stitch-up.
Here is one of the more friendly viewpoints .. :-)
"Theresa May genuinely just won a leadership election by standing still and letting everyone else fall on the sword of their own ineptitude."
I'm not entirely sure they could've predicted the country voting 'Leave'.
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itkman
I'm not entirely sure they could've predicted the country voting 'Leave'.
I'm not talking about that, post-referendum the Brexiteers have been purposely falling on their swords, as per the Plan B :thumbup:
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Wales-Bales
Seems like May is set to become PM without a grassroots vote. I love it when a plan comes together, this whole thing seems like an obvious setup, starting with May sitting on the fence during the referendum. What we are witnessing is the "Tory Plan B" that was formulated long before the referendum. Notice how conveniently all the Brexit campaigners fell by the wayside at key moments. It will be interesting to see what happens now.
What will happen now is something. And, no matter what it is, you will then say it was scripted and obvious all along.
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Mrs Steve R
Out of interest, excluding your mum, how many women have you lived with?
Does it take this long to add them all up? :hehe:
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lardy
What will happen now is something. And, no matter what it is, you will then say it was scripted and obvious all along.
Here we go again, Professor Lardy speaks. No ideas of his own but plenty to say about others :hehe:
Whatever happens next, you can be sure that May needed to be the PM to make it happen, hence the excellent fence-sitting job she did during the referendum. When fighting a battle you don't send all of your troops in at once, you keep some in reserve.
Now I can see why you don't visit this half of the message board very much, because you are a bit thick. Stick to the football trivia section :thumbup:
BTW I've been saying all along that May and the Tories are up to something. Bye tosser :wave:
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Wales-Bales
Here we go again, Professor Lardy speaks. No ideas of his own but plenty to say about others :hehe:
Whatever happens next, you can be sure that May needed to be the PM to make it happen, hence the excellent fence-sitting job she did during the referendum. When fighting a battle you don't send all of your troops in at once, you keep some in reserve.
Now I can see why you don't visit this half of the message board very much, because you are a bit thick. Stick to the football trivia section :thumbup:
BTW I've been saying all along that May and the Tories are up to something. Bye tosser :wave:
Nice to see I can still get under your skin Gluey :thumbup:
I actually came back to partially defend what you're saying. The alternative to everything being scripted and part of the plan is that the people who are attempting to run the country have absolutely no clue what they're doing. It's probably a lot more reassuring to think that this is all supposed to happen.
I still find it hard to believe that someone like Boris would fall on his sword to help May become PM... :hehe:
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ninianclark
Lardy :hehe::thumbup:
I'm a fecking genius in hindsight , I predicted all of this to my mates last week down the dog and duck, and then come on here to tell people about it.
Do you think Brexit means Brexit?
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Wales-Bales
Do you think Brexit means Brexit?
trouble is when your wrong you get selective memory loss :hehe:
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Packerman
trouble is when your wrong you get selective memory loss :hehe:
Bloody hell, they are all here, it's like the Wynford on a Saturday night! :hehe:
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Wales-Bales
Bloody hell, they are all here, it's like the Wynford on a Saturday night! :hehe:
Full of slappers? :shrug: :hehe:
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Mrs Steve R
Full of slappers? :shrug: :hehe:
Shady characters that suddenly come out of nowhere when they are in need of something :hehe:
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ninianclark
Well Im sure of this - she wouldnt have made that speech if she knew that Lansome was about to say she would not run.
She said Brexit means Brexit - which of course means NOTHING. The answer to the question is :-
Brexit means stay in the single market and accept totally free movement of people
Brexit means come out completely and make our own rules up and then trade with the EU just like China, Australia, America, Japan etc
Brexit means - some combination of the above
So the question means nothing.
May had to make that speech regardless of Lansome, and really had no choice but play to the gallery. Even after she made that speech, social media was still full of negative comments about her.
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This is the worst and most useless Government I can ever recall. Labour should have torn them to shreds.
I agree May would not have come out with her Brexit means Brexit remark if she knew Leadsom was quitting the race. As for Leadsom she is pathetic. Jeremy Corbyn has had a year of non stop hassle from the press / media. She can't cope it with it for a couple of days.
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Wales-Bales
Shady characters that suddenly come out of nowhere when they are in need of something :hehe:
http://teststripz.com/wp-content/upl.../08/images.jpg
I know a few :hehe:
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Pearcey3
This is the worst and most useless Government I can ever recall. Labour should have torn them to shreds.
I agree May would not have come out with her Brexit means Brexit remark if she knew Leadsom was quitting the race. As for Leadsom she is pathetic. Jeremy Corbyn has had a year of non stop hassle from the press / media. She can't cope it with it for a couple of days.
Hence why I was asking about the suitability of women in those positions but nobody bit, I fear May might have a hot flush and have us all shot. :hehe:
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Mrs Steve R
Well they certainly weren't here to discuss the Tory party leadership race :hehe:
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Pearcey3
This is the worst and most useless Government I can ever recall. Labour should have torn them to shreds.
I agree May would not have come out with her Brexit means Brexit remark if she knew Leadsom was quitting the race. As for Leadsom she is pathetic. Jeremy Corbyn has had a year of non stop hassle from the press / media. She can't cope it with it for a couple of days.
May's problem was not Leadsom, the elephant in the room is the 52% of the electorate that voted Brexit. and are getting very impatient on social media platforms. The Brexit means Brexit comment was aimed at them, absolutely nothing to do with Leadsom.