What do you make of this video, SD?
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Ffs don't encourage him, he's already managed to screw up the politics forum and he's doing a pretty good job of fecking up the main board too.
Yep. And the video is completely biased, no mention of the positive Islamic colonies have done (if anyone asks, I believe in a secular society as religion is a private matter). This thread is not contributing imoQuote:
Originally Posted by TH63
How is it biased...is it historically inaccurate?Quote:
Originally Posted by adz-a32
I applaud your statement regarding religion being a private matter.
Unfortunately this doesn't seem to be the case with Islam in the west.
If it were, I would suspect that Muslims would be looked upon in the same way as Hindus,Jews and Sikhs.
What are you on about? We respect your right to practise whatever beliefs you want to, freedom of belief is an essential idea in IslamQuote:
Originally Posted by Wash DC Blue
You are quite happy to trash what is traditionally a Christian country with your secular society bollox though. :thumbup:Quote:
Originally Posted by adz-a32
I'm not thrashing our country or the CoE, a secular society is one in which people are free to practise whatever religion or beliefs they want. Seperation of Church and State is another matterQuote:
Originally Posted by Thoth
Of course it's historically in accurate. The guy is claiming that Asia/Africa and the Middle East have not been invaded by Europeans since the crusades.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wash DC Blue
As far as I can tell the different factions of the middle east have always, alwayssssssssssss had a history of colonisation.
Assyrians, Persia, Phoenicians.
People seem to forget history when it suits.
To think Europeans/America created colonisation is laughable.
And peoples generalisation and use of the word "west" is pretty grinding. It is America 99% of the time, not Iceland.
[QUOTE=Wash DC Blue;4672019]How is it biased...is it historically inaccurate?
I applaud your statement regarding religion being a private matter.
Unfortunately this doesn't seem to be the case with Islam in the west.
If it were, I would suspect that Muslims would be looked upon in the same way as Hindus,Jews,Sikhs and PAGANS like me :thumbup:
You're on ignore for trolling thread after thread.Quote:
Originally Posted by TH63
Get used to it.
Watched it. Researched it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Colonel Cærdiffi
About Robert Spencer - Jihad Watch
https://www.jihadwatch.org/about-robert
ROBERT SPENCER is the director of Jihad Watch, a program of the David Horowitz Freedom Center, and the author of fifteen books, including the New York ...
It's a typical distorted, fabricated, racist, neo-con right-wing Zionist view of history. The sins of omission are just as bad as the sins of commission.
Spencer is banned from coming in to Britain along with his equally deranged partner, Pamela Geller (Atlas Shrugs) it's no different to the Mossad front organisation, SITE which is run by Rita Katz.
It will appeal to those semi-illiterate knuckle draggers, that have some admiration for the EDL and other far right-wing organisations that have mushroomed up all over Europe.
Robert Spencer, Pamela Geller, Frank Gaffney and David Horowitz are all part of the Israeli backed, Zionist funded, Counter Jihad Movement which is designed to inflame Christians and Muslims against each other.
They get away with this brand of hate crime because it's filed under the heading of 'Education'.
Eid Mubarak adz.Quote:
Originally Posted by adz-a32
I'm doing the Splott David Drinking Game. We've had 'trolling' and 'sins of omission' already in this thread and I'm starting to feel a bit tipsy.
I can see that this guy has been banned by the uk amongst other countries and is a darling of the edf which does certainly suggest he's a horrible piece of work.Quote:
Originally Posted by Splott David
However, your claims that he's funded by Zionists/Israeli backed. Where do these come from?
The trouble is, it is difficult with you to know whether that is a statement based on good evidence, or just repeating the ramblings of some extreme website, or there's a funding link to someone YOU consider to be a Zionist but nobody else on this board would.
As such can you not see that your credibility here is completely shot?
The continual presentation of very wild speculation as fact has utterly destroyed anyone's capability to take anything you type seriously- as such you probably do a lot more damage than good in trying to foster an understanding of the issues that you are interested in.
The worst thing that can happen to an opinion on here is for you to agree with it, as immediately 90% of people will disregard it. Especially when you wade in with unevidenced claims and dodgy websites.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...ca-middle-eastQuote:
Originally Posted by Splott David
If you knew what you were talking about you would never have to ask the question. I've done my research since I was seventeen years of age and am now sixty five. I'm not prepared to get involved in attempts to justify what others know to be blindingly obvious. My suggestion to you is to go and research properly the names of the individuals that I have provided and then come backQuote:
Originally Posted by Rjk
and use PM.
But you have just said.Quote:
Originally Posted by Splott David
And now you refuse to defend your point. And worse than that try to troll the person who put forward a retort to your point.Quote:
Now we seem to have fewer and fewer posters who are able to communicate on issues, articulate an argument, put forward a point of view or know how to robustly defend it.
Pot Kettle Black David. Dont go having a pop at people, when you are what you hate.
It's about now Organ steps in to defend Splotty.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rjk
However whilst you've been articulate in your reply, Splotty doesn't really take on constructive criticism on board so don't expect the same back.
I reckon Packerman before Organ :thumbup: :hehe:Quote:
Originally Posted by TruBlue
PS I once dated an Israeli girl, she was very nice :biggrin:
Nice bit of editing
"The trouble is, it is difficult with you to know whether that is a statement based on good evidence, or just repeating the ramblings of some extreme website, or there's a funding link to someone YOU consider to be a Zionist but nobody else on this board would.
As such can you not see that your credibility here is completely shot?
The continual presentation of very wild speculation as fact has utterly destroyed anyone's capability to take anything you type seriously- as such you probably do a lot more damage than good in trying to foster an understanding of the issues that you are interested in.
The worst thing that can happen to an opinion on here is for you to agree with it, as immediately 90% of people will disregard it. Especially when you wade in with unevidenced claims and dodgy websites."
You managed to develop word blindness when reading his post I see.
Eid mubarak broQuote:
Originally Posted by Splott David
What do you make of it?Quote:
Originally Posted by Colonel Cærdiffi
Well I was surprised by it, had no idea if what I was seeing was true. I was hoping you'd be able to either confirm or refute the points made in the video and you seem to be saying that the guy has omitted some stuff but you don't say what.Quote:
Originally Posted by Splott David
What I said is that this is part of the Counter Jihad industry which exists. Check out the publisher, check out the WordPress link that you have in the video, look at the articles on that website. Check out Robert Spencer, look at his connections to Pamela Geller both of whom are banned by Theresa May (when Home Secretary) from even entering Britain . Spencer and Geller are linked to 'Tommy Robinson' (EDL) both hosted his illegal entry into the USA for which he was sent to prison. Geller and Spencer are also closely linked to supplying large tracts of Anders Breivik's manifesto, he went on to commit mass murder of youths and children on Utoya island.Quote:
Originally Posted by Colonel Cærdiffi
Well I didn't know any of that when I posted the video, I just saw it on Reddit and wondered what you'd make of it. I don't really want to go looking through the links and do a bunch of research though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Splott David
I just want to know what parts of the video you say are not true. If the video is even half true then I'm not surprised there's a Counter Jihad industry existing.
Is a counter jihad industry a good thing? Not just for us white people, but for Islam?
Worldnews? Some sections seem pretty right wing, thank gosh for SRSQuote:
Originally Posted by Colonel Cærdiffi
Re: "half true". CC this is a propaganda video by Warner who has no credentials whatsoever as an historian. Here is a Reddit link to a critique of one of his so-called lectures.Quote:
Originally Posted by Colonel Cærdiffi
https://www.reddit.com/r/badhistory/..._secret_by_dr/
It has zero historical value. It is just part of the neurotic American Islamophobic industry.
https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-h...m-inner-circle
There are life long careers and plenty of money for writers and bloggers who work in these three areas, the Holocaust, anti-Semitism and Political Islam. These are money making industries and in order to keep the flow of funds coming in to support them, people have to keep scaremongering about them continuously. Warner is just one of these. The link from the Southern Poverty Law Center lists the most well known ones who are active in this field.
Fair enough. Thanks for that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Splott David
I'd have been in the thick of it hours ago in support of Comrade Dai but have been on a cultural day out in Caerphilly. Though, he doesn't need assistance to deal with Sun readers.Quote:
Originally Posted by TruBlue
I looked at the video and his point is that over time Muslims invaded Europe more than Christians invaded North Africa. That is a true claim. The thread on Reddit is mainly ad hominem. Is this man Bill Warner a fool? No, he has a PhD in Physics and Maths which means he is probably more intelligent than anyone on here. Is his real name Bill Warner ? No. Do we know anyone else who used the surname Warner pseudonymously. Yes, the great Jack Warner whose real name was Horace Waters. Listen to his version of Louise from 3:06. It is beautiful.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aPXW_smCmR8
Save your powder Organ, I've just had a Hillary Clinton type medical moment upon learning that the BBC have lost the rights to broadcast GBBO in future.Quote:
Originally Posted by Organ Morgan.
Should have taken a tablet with you :hehe:Quote:
Originally Posted by Organ Morgan.
I thought the Israelites were already extinct?Quote:
Originally Posted by ninianclark