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The rise of alternative media
"Trump victory spells the end of traditional media influence"
http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blo...edia-influence
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Can't speak for America, but I would confidently say that the mainstream media here had a massively bigger influence over people than alternative media for Brexit.
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Originally Posted by
lardy
Can't speak for America, but I would confidently say that the mainstream media here had a massively bigger influence over people than alternative media for Brexit.
That's a fair assessment, probably because the alternative media is more established in the US, but I would also say social media had some impact on Brexit, as a counterbalance to the popular media.
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He's not wrong:
http://www.theatlantic.com/business/...g-down/424011/
It is odd she would call them "Al Jazeera America" because that doesn't even exist now.
A lack of knowledge that makes you sceptical.
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LordKenwyne
Perhaps that's what he meant then? :hehe: I'm just on a break from laptop repairs so I haven't thought it through obviously. :biggrin:
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Al Jazeera are part of the club, they are not alternative media at all. They might have been pretending to provide a different viewpoint, but it was all spin and propaganda. They are funded by Qatar, who also sponsor the Clinton Foundation and ISIS. It's not at all surprising that Trump told them where to go.
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Wales-Bales
Al Jazeera are part of the club, they are not alternative media at all. They might have been pretending to provide a different viewpoint, but it was all spin and propaganda. They are funded by Qatar, who also sponsor the Clinton Foundation and ISIS. It's not at all surprising that Trump told them where to go.
i,m confused now, is trump not a beef burger then :sherlock: if so how did they allow him to be elected :sherlock: it sort of fecks up the neocon world order :-)
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Originally Posted by
Wales-Bales
Al Jazeera are part of the club, they are not alternative media at all. They might have been pretending to provide a different viewpoint, but it was all spin and propaganda. They are funded by Qatar, who also sponsor the Clinton Foundation and ISIS. It's not at all surprising that Trump told them where to go.
I've never been a fan of Al Jazeera tbh, always thought there was something dodgy about them, I think Trump is dodgy too, have you seen pics of him at the annual Jesuit dinner party with Hilary? :hehe:
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Packerman
i,m confused now, is trump not a beef burger then :sherlock: if so how did they allow him to be elected :sherlock: it sort of fecks up the neocon world order :-)
^^ see above :hehe:
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Originally Posted by
Wales-Bales
Al Jazeera are part of the club, they are not alternative media at all. They might have been pretending to provide a different viewpoint, but it was all spin and propaganda. They are funded by Qatar, who also sponsor the Clinton Foundation and ISIS. It's not at all surprising that Trump told them where to go.
Al Jazeera pump out 50 anti israel articles per day. That is their sole purpose.
Who are some credible news sources?.
That have boots on the ground to know the score.
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Originally Posted by
LordKenwyne
Al Jazeera pump out 50 anti israel articles per day. That is their sole purpose.
Who are some credible news sources?.
That have boots on the ground to know the score.
Al Jazeera made the mistake of printing some obvious true versions of events a few times which goes against what some bloke in his bedroom wrote on uprooted so now it's persona non grata of the loons media world.
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Originally Posted by
Wales-Bales
Al Jazeera are part of the club, they are not alternative media at all. They might have been pretending to provide a different viewpoint, but it was all spin and propaganda. They are funded by Qatar, who also sponsor the Clinton Foundation and ISIS. It's not at all surprising that Trump told them where to go.
Watched that channel a few times some years ago and soon realised the whole supposedly commercial operation was funded by the only advert between programmes, one for Qatar Airlines.
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Originally Posted by
Packerman
i,m confused now, is trump not a beef burger then :sherlock: if so how did they allow him to be elected :sherlock: it sort of fecks up the neocon world order :-)
The real power lies with elite bankers (which is a euphemism for the people that Splott Dai was forever criticising, and was banned for) and the worldwide network of central banks they control. One of the very few they don't is Syria's. Some others that they didn't were Libya and Iraq. You may or may not have noticed a theme here.
Some simpler stuff: you, or anyone, borrows £100,000 for a mortgage from, say, Barclays with a repayment period of 25 years at a 3.00% fixed interest rate over the entire term. Providing you make all repayments the property is yours. You would have paid them around £45,000 more than you borrowed. Let's also pretend that throughout the period your job paid you exactly £10,000 per year net. That would men, effectively, you have slogged exclusively for their financial benefit for four-and-a-half years. But that's fine because they enabled you to put a roof over your head and were kind enough to lend you the the dough, right?
Wrong! You borrowed money that didn't exist, and you were conned into becoming a debt slave to legalised thieves who operate a fractional reserve banking system. You won't believe what I've written. You would if you cared to research the subject which would be easy as you have the internet at your fingertips. But I know from having similar discussions down the years that Mrs Steve R's signature beneath her every post holds true for those who choose to remain wilfully ignorant.
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Originally Posted by
Organ Morgan.
The real power lies with elite bankers (which is a euphemism for the people that Splott Dai was forever criticising, and was banned for) and the worldwide network of central banks they control. One of the very few they don't is Syria's. Some others that they didn't were Libya and Iraq. You may or may not have noticed a theme here.
Some simpler stuff: you, or anyone, borrows £100,000 for a mortgage from, say, Barclays with a repayment period of 25 years at a 3.00% fixed interest rate over the entire term. Providing you make all repayments the property is yours. You would have paid them around £45,000 more than you borrowed. Let's also pretend that throughout the period your job paid you exactly £10,000 per year net. That would men, effectively, you have slogged exclusively for their financial benefit for four-and-a-half years. But that's fine because they enabled you to put a roof over your head and were kind enough to lend you the the dough, right?
Wrong! You borrowed money that didn't exist, and you were conned into becoming a debt slave to legalised thieves who operate a fractional reserve banking system. You won't believe what I've written. You would if you cared to research the subject which would be easy as you have the internet at your fingertips. But I know from having similar discussions down the years that Mrs Steve R's signature beneath her every post holds true for those who choose to remain wilfully ignorant.
So it was the jews what done it
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Packerman
So it was the jews what done it
The creature from Jekyll Island - G. Edward Griffin :thumbup:
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Mrs Steve R
The creature from Jekyll Island - G. Edward Griffin :thumbup:
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
For other people with the same name, see Edward Griffin.
G. Edward Griffin
G. Edward Griffin.jpg
Born November 7, 1931 (age 85)
Detroit, Michigan
Nationality American
Education University of Michigan
BA
Occupation Author, lecturer, filmmaker
Known for Conspiracy theories
Spouse(s) Patricia Irving Griffin
G. Edward Griffin (born November 7, 1931) is an American conspiracy theorist, author, lecturer, and filmmaker. He is the author of The Creature from Jekyll Island (1994), which promotes conspiracy theories about the motives behind the creation of the Federal Reserve System.[1][2] Griffin's writings put forth a number conspiracy theories regarding various political, defense and health care interests. His book World Without Cancer argues that cancer is a nutritional deficiency that can be cured by consuming amygdalin, a view regarded as quackery by the medical community.[1][3][4] He is an HIV/AIDS denialist, supports the 9/11 Truth movement, and supports a specific John F. Kennedy assassination conspiracy theory.[1] Also, he believes the actual geographical location of the biblical Noah's Ark is located at the Durupınar site in Turkey.[5]
Contents [hide]
1 Biography
2 Political advocacy
3 Alternate conspiracy theories and fringe science
3.1 The Creature from Jekyll Island
3.2 Cancer, chemtrails, and AIDS denial
3.3 Noah's Ark search
4 Works
4.1 Bibliography
4.2 Filmography
5 Notes
6 References
7 Further reading
8 External links
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Originally Posted by
Packerman
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
For other people with the same name, see Edward Griffin.
G. Edward Griffin
G. Edward Griffin.jpg
Born November 7, 1931 (age 85)
Detroit, Michigan
Nationality American
Education University of Michigan
BA
Occupation Author, lecturer, filmmaker
Known for Conspiracy theories
Spouse(s) Patricia Irving Griffin
G. Edward Griffin (born November 7, 1931) is an American conspiracy theorist, author, lecturer, and filmmaker. He is the author of The Creature from Jekyll Island (1994), which promotes conspiracy theories about the motives behind the creation of the Federal Reserve System.[1][2] Griffin's writings put forth a number conspiracy theories regarding various political, defense and health care interests. His book World Without Cancer argues that cancer is a nutritional deficiency that can be cured by consuming amygdalin, a view regarded as quackery by the medical community.[1][3][4] He is an HIV/AIDS denialist, supports the 9/11 Truth movement, and supports a specific John F. Kennedy assassination conspiracy theory.[1] Also, he believes the actual geographical location of the biblical Noah's Ark is located at the Durupınar site in Turkey.[5]
Contents [hide]
1 Biography
2 Political advocacy
3 Alternate conspiracy theories and fringe science
3.1 The Creature from Jekyll Island
3.2 Cancer, chemtrails, and AIDS denial
3.3 Noah's Ark search
4 Works
4.1 Bibliography
4.2 Filmography
5 Notes
6 References
7 Further reading
8 External links
sounds like a total nut job, especially like his cure for cancer
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Packerman
sounds like a total nut job, especially like his cure for cancer
Of course he does :hehe: what were you expecting? any thoughts on looking past that and deciding for yourself? :tongue:
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Packerman
sounds like a total nut job, especially like his cure for cancer
Well, as I said, you are wilfully ignorant. I won't link his video A World Without Cancer, you'll have to summon the energy to tap it into google yourself. Assuming you do and take one hour out of your life to watch it (rather than post moronic nonsense here), you will learn that it's easy to avoid getting cancer. It isn't common knowledge by design as cancer limits the world's population and treating it is a multi-billion quid industry.
Something else, post a photo here of anyone his age who looks as healthy.
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Organ Morgan.
Well, as I said, you are wilfully ignorant. I won't link his video A World Without Cancer, you'll have to summon the energy to tap it into google yourself. Assuming you do and take one hour out of your life to watch it (rather than post moronic nonsense here), you will learn that it's easy to avoid getting cancer. It isn't common knowledge by design as cancer limits the world's population and treating it is a multi-billion quid industry.
Something else, post a photo here of anyone his age who looks as healthy.
there is only one person posting moronic nonsense in this thread, you when stating its easy to avoid getting cancer.
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Why does everything have to end up in an argument? :indifferent:
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Mrs Steve R
Why does everything have to end up in an argument? :indifferent:
I think it's time to give this forum a swerve for a while.
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Packerman
there is only one person posting moronic nonsense in this thread, you when stating its easy to avoid getting cancer.
Why? I know why, because the the Sun or Daily Star hasn't told you it's easy to? Remain satisfied with what you are told to think and believe by government, big business and the corporate media, they really care about you. It makes no odds to me whether you die an agonising, lingering death thanks to the big C. Stay the way you are, eat any old crap and peg out prematurely.
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Organ Morgan.
I think it's time to give this forum a swerve for a while.
Don't do that, I would miss you, even if packerman wouldn't :hehe:
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Organ Morgan.
Why? I know why, because the the Sun or Daily Star hasn't told you it's easy to? Remain satisfied with what you are told to think and believe by government, big business and the corporate media, they really care about you. It makes no odds to me whether you die an agonising, lingering death thanks to the big C. Stay the way you are, eat any old crap and peg out prematurely.
You always say nonsense like this, but you tell us things like they are "facts" but your track record of actually getting things correct is abysmal.
If you are such a wise old owl, why do you keep getting things wrong?
Seriously, would you listen to someone like yourself who keeps getting everything wrong, then just moves onto the next wrong thing?
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Mrs Steve R
any thoughts on looking past that and deciding for yourself? :tongue:
https://youarenotsosmart.com/2010/06...irmation-bias/ :biggrin:
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Wales-Bales
Good read, we are just talking about the Hegelian Dialectic and how our minds work in my group, it's an interesting topic.
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Mrs Steve R
Good read, we are just talking about the Hegelian Dialectic and how our minds work in my group, it's an interesting topic.
Conformation bias should be a eureka moment for anybody who assumes that they are critical thinkers. The media know that your brain is like putty, just waiting to be filled up with their crap, and most people are complient by the time they leave high school.
TruBlue will be along shortly to say it's not so :biggrin:
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Wales-Bales
Conformation bias should be a eureka moment for anybody who assumes that they are critical thinkers. The media know that your brain is like putty, just waiting to be filled up with their crap, and most people are complient by the time they leave high school.
TruBlue will be along shortly to say it's not so :biggrin:
:hehe: Put your worm away :fishing:
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Forget about the personalities involved, but I find this article pretty depressing. i agree with the things said about specialist journalists having their reputations shredded, but, apparently, elections are won these days by the candidate who is "more entertaining" and generates "more passion" - a Facebook candidate for the Facebook generation.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-37952249
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ninianclark
When it comes to elections you have 2 choices normally - those that offer the same and those that offer a change.
Clinton offered the same - Trump was offering a change.
Who was the one who stood up in New Mexico and told Ford that if they close their factory down there and move it to Mexico and then try and re import cars , then they would face an import tarif so high it would make their cars impossible to sell.
Giving 'the people' hope, what they want to hear and a solution as to how it will be done will win votes compared to someone who does nothing.
It would have been nice if Carwyn Jones could have and would have done that for Port Talbot - instead he marched off to the EU HQ and said - ah ok - fair enough then - nowt I can do.
Clinton was offering the destruction of America while Trump said that he would save it. All he did was make statements that were 100% opposite to those of the Democrats, and he amplified them to such an extent that nobody would fail to get his message.
Regarding the mainstream media, Wikileaks proved beyond doubt that they are lying slime-balls. I think the USA is ahead of us regarding the alternative media, this can be seen in the way the general public swallowed all the propaganda regarding Miliband and Corbyn. However a turning point may have occurred over Brexit, as people started waking up to what what going on.
It's easy to spot the influence of the media, as people usually regurgitate the message when discussing various topics. Some even go a step further, and use the alternative media as a tool to ridicule those who have a different opinion.
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Originally Posted by
Wales-Bales
Clinton was offering the destruction of America while Trump said that he would save it. All he did was make statements that were 100% opposite to those of the Democrats, and he amplified them to such an extent that nobody would fail to get his message.
Regarding the mainstream media, Wikileaks proved beyond doubt that they are lying slime-balls. I think the USA is ahead of us regarding the alternative media, this can be seen in the way the general public swallowed all the propaganda regarding Miliband and Corbyn. However a turning point may have occurred over Brexit, as people started waking up to what what going on.
It's easy to spot the influence of the media, as people usually regurgitate the message when discussing various topics. Some even go a step further, and use the alternative media as a tool to ridicule those who have a different opinion.
That would never happen on here :hehe:
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Mrs Steve R
That would never happen on here :hehe:
I'm not sure if it's only a temporary stuation, but right now the mainstream media are a bunch of liars, a busted flush. And don't get me started on Katy Perry and Milly Cyrus, whose mission it is to destroy of morals of western teenagers. The liberal elite have a lot to answer for, including common purpose/core, etc. We have been infiltrated and the implosion of the EU cannot come soon enough IMO.
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Wales-Bales
I'm not sure if it's only a temporary stuation, but right now the mainstream media are a bunch of liars, a busted flush. And don't get me started on Katy Perry and Milly Cyrus, whose mission it is to destroy of morals of western teenagers. The liberal elite have a lot to answer for, including common purpose/core, etc. We have been infiltrated and the implosion of the EU cannot come soon enough IMO.
They have always been a bunch of liars, I'm starting to feel sorry for Miley now, she's clearly a mk ultra freak :hehe:
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Originally Posted by
ninianclark
When it comes to elections you have 2 choices normally - those that offer the same and those that offer a change.
Clinton offered the same - Trump was offering a change.
Who was the one who stood up in New Mexico and told Ford that if they close their factory down there and move it to Mexico and then try and re import cars , then they would face an import tarif so high it would make their cars impossible to sell.
Giving 'the people' hope, what they want to hear and a solution as to how it will be done will win votes compared to someone who does nothing.
It would have been nice if Carwyn Jones could have and would have done that for Port Talbot - instead he marched off to the EU HQ and said - ah ok - fair enough then - nowt I can do.
And the Facebook generation speaks!
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Originally Posted by
ninianclark
When it comes to elections you have 2 choices normally - those that offer the same and those that offer a change.
Clinton offered the same - Trump was offering a change.
Who was the one who stood up in New Mexico and told Ford that if they close their factory down there and move it to Mexico and then try and re import cars , then they would face an import tarif so high it would make their cars impossible to sell.
Giving 'the people' hope, what they want to hear and a solution as to how it will be done will win votes compared to someone who does nothing.
It would have been nice if Carwyn Jones could have and would have done that for Port Talbot - instead he marched off to the EU HQ and said - ah ok - fair enough then - nowt I can do.
He may well have been offering change but the reality will be somewhat different I feel.
It's very easy to stand on the sidelines and shout soundbites for cheap headlines. Not so easy to implement them when most of it is bollox.
He's already backtracking on healthcare (not so bad now he's thought about it) and building a wall (perhaps a fence would be cheaper and less symbolic?) - give him time and he'll be just another lying politician that he spent his campaign rallying against.
Personally I think he'll be lucky to last a couple of years.
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Originally Posted by
ninianclark
When it comes to elections you have 2 choices normally - those that offer the same and those that offer a change.
Clinton offered the same - Trump was offering a change.
Who was the one who stood up in New Mexico and told Ford that if they close their factory down there and move it to Mexico and then try and re import cars , then they would face an import tarif so high it would make their cars impossible to sell.
Giving 'the people' hope, what they want to hear and a solution as to how it will be done will win votes compared to someone who does nothing.
It would have been nice if Carwyn Jones could have and would have done that for Port Talbot - instead he marched off to the EU HQ and said - ah ok - fair enough then - nowt I can do.
Mmm a solution, yeah trump is full of solutions... :hehe:
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Originally Posted by
Wales-Bales
Clinton was offering the destruction of America while Trump said that he would save it. All he did was make statements that were 100% opposite to those of the Democrats, and he amplified them to such an extent that nobody would fail to get his message.
Regarding the mainstream media, Wikileaks proved beyond doubt that they are lying slime-balls. I think the USA is ahead of us regarding the alternative media, this can be seen in the way the general public swallowed all the propaganda regarding Miliband and Corbyn. However a turning point may have occurred over Brexit, as people started waking up to what what going on.
It's easy to spot the influence of the media, as people usually regurgitate the message when discussing various topics. Some even go a step further, and use the alternative media as a tool to ridicule those who have a different opinion.
You don't half talk some shit to boost your own self inflated ego. :facepalm:
The top selling papers in the country all championed for Brexit, nothing to do with little Timmy tinfoils wordpress website that has had 3 visitors in 10 years.