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Support car manufacturing in Wales?
Would people support a car manufacturing factory in Wales? Obviously there is Aston martin in St Athan but I'm talking about "normal" cars that the average person would buy. We have a keen eye for workmanship and I think Wales could produce some decent cars.
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No offence like, but this is one of the oddest posts I've ever read on here.
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Last time we tried on our own we produced the Gilburn which although having some famous owners really left a lot to be desired.
Oh, and TVR are meant to be opening a factory in the Valleys at some point.
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bluethrough
Last time we tried on our own we produced the Gilburn which although having some famous owners really left a lot to be desired.
Oh, and TVR are meant to be opening a factory in the Valleys at some point.
Wasn't TVR dependent on the increasingly unlikely Circuit of Wales being built?
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Barry Shitpeas
Wasn't TVR dependent on the increasingly unlikely Circuit of Wales being built?
They said not but I suspect different :thumbup:
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bluethrough
Oh, and TVR are meant to be opening a factory in the Valleys at some point.
TVR made some of the best looking cars of their time. Mechanically questionable but seriously good looking.
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coolred
TVR made some of the best looking cars of their time. Mechanically questionable but seriously good looking.
Just a shame they were all called Trevor
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They used to make fabulous Triang cars in Merthyr :thumbup:
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Are there any reasons not to support car manufacturing in Wales?
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NYCBlue
Are there any reasons not to support car manufacturing in Wales?
Cyclists :hehe:
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NYCBlue
Are there any reasons not to support car manufacturing in Wales?
Yes - if they made half and half scarves for automobile tourists.
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Cyclists might oppose it and I guess people wouldn't like it if you stuck a factory next door to their village but it seems like most would be fine with it.
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coolred
Cyclists might oppose it and I guess people wouldn't like it if you stuck a factory next door to their village but it seems like most would be fine with it.
Why on earth would cyclists oppose it?
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Well I'm a cyclist and I would be dead against a car factory in Wales. It's the thin end of the wedge I tell you. First it's cars, next it'll be busses and before you know it we'll be making bloody aeroplane wings or whatever.
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Barry Shitpeas
Well I'm a cyclist and I would be dead against a car factory in Wales. It's the thin end of the wedge I tell you. First it's cars, next it'll be busses and before you know it we'll be making bloody aeroplane wings or whatever.
I heard a rumour the factory would make cars with retractable sticks to attack spokes so you might well have a point there.
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the english wouldnt allow it
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Barry Shitpeas
Well I'm a cyclist and I would be dead against a car factory in Wales. It's the thin end of the wedge I tell you. First it's cars, next it'll be busses and before you know it we'll be making bloody aeroplane wings or whatever.
Would you say most cyclists would be against it? I guess we need some more cyclists to chime in - not a cyclist myself. You wouldn't want to see my thighs in Lycra I'll say.
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coolred
Would you say most cyclists would be against it? I guess we need some more cyclists to chime in - not a cyclist myself. You wouldn't want to see my thighs in Lycra I'll say.
I can't speak for all cyclists obviously but I've just asked my next door neighbour, he's not a cyclist himself but his wife, god rest her soul, was and he reckons that she would have been vigorously opposed to any kind of vehicle manufacturing in Wales.
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coolred
Would you say most cyclists would be against it? I guess we need some more cyclists to chime in - not a cyclist myself. You wouldn't want to see my thighs in Lycra I'll say.
Same question, why would cyclists be against it?
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lardy
Same question, why would cyclists be against it?
Why wouldn't they be??!!
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I'd be all in favour.
Problem is of course, you can forget about any European funding to build the factory and components sourced from overseas will be prohibitively expensive due to the weak pound and we've told our major export market to do one.
Perhaps the biggest issues though of course are the huge start up costs and without the volumes, the cost of the car will probably be higher than an Aston.
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If this were to happen I would hope we would aim to out-Tesla Tesla, rather than try to compete with mainstream car building
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Barry Shitpeas
I can't speak for all cyclists obviously but I've just asked my next door neighbour, he's not a cyclist himself but his wife, god rest her soul, was and he reckons that she would have been vigorously opposed to any kind of vehicle manufacturing in Wales.
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TH63
"Ambulances have been called more than 100 times since 2014 for workers experiencing fainting spells, dizziness, seizures, abnormal breathing and chest pains..."
That's private sector workers for you. Lazy, excuse-making shirkers to a man.
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We don't want new manufacturing in Wales! What remains of industry should be offshored to China and other third-world sweatshops so they can make the stuff which we can purchase cheaply. We can pay for it by increasing national and household debt to yet greater heights. Globalisation has worked a treat so far with rampant consumerism displacing UK jobs. Nothing can go wrong with this economic model.
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bluethrough
If this were to happen I would hope we would aim to out-Tesla Tesla, rather than try to compete with mainstream car building
We should go ahead with the PlayStation 5 too before Sony think of it.
We'll be minted
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coolred i guess you are talking a car assembly plant ? in terms of auto suppliers there is a thriving supply chain in Wales supporting lots of jobs to some of the major car OEM's . the supply chain into these are called tier 1 or tier 2 suppliers , bridgend ford , gestamp are 2 which spring to mind tho ford are going through a challenging time
with aston martin and possibly TVR coming down here there is a strong possibility that a few more suppliers will come down too which will be good for the Wales manufacturing industry. the law of averages in the auto industry if someone like JLR take on 1 worker the supply chain will take on 3 workers .
i,m sure brexit will have an effect to how it all pans out in the next few years
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Whether the people support a car manufacturing plant in Wales is an irrelevance. The decision to site such a factory for mass produced cars will depend almost entirely on the financial support on offer from the government and will have nothing to do with whether CCFC supporters like the idea or not.
With BREXIT on the horizon the concept is also unlikely as manufacturers of mass produced vehicles will be more likely to be looking at moving car production out of the UK rather than setting up new plants.