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David Silva, consistently class for Man City. Since he moved to England he has created more chances and assisted more goals than any other player and has won 2 league titles. But he has never once won any sort of award (not even a player of the month) or been in the PFA team of the season.
Lukaku maybe not underrated but I think people forget how young he is considering the number of goals he's scored.
Pat Heard wasn't as bad as we all said he was.
Someone like James milner probably.
Or going by the other thread perhaps Zinedine Zidane
Glenn Hoddle. Just over 50 caps for England. What a waste.
Matt Le Tissier, only 8 caps for England ,which is just ridiculous.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hilts
as a kid with only match of the day to keep up with football i loved watching Hoddle,fantastic player.
Also from the same period, Liam Brady was a class above.
Earnie. Although his goals saved West Brom from relegation, he had a poor manager in Robson. Never had a chance to shine at the top level again apart from a few appearances in an awful Derby side.
If shearer had that goal scoring record in la liga, italy or germany he'd be talked about as one of the all time greats:
https://www.premierleague.com/stats/all-time
Ashley cole was consistently a beast as well. He could've gone to one the spanish big boys I think.
Rui Costa a championship manager legend is fading form memory as well.
Tony Currie, Peter Osgood, Alan Hudson, all flair players who didn't fit in with the establishment's functional football at the time.
Some good calls there and I would add Frank Worthington,Stan Bowles and Rodney Marsh.Quote:
Originally Posted by splott parker
However my pick would be Peter Crouch. A remarkable scoring record especially at international level considering a large amount of his appearances were off the bench.
Tommy Smith hard man, only one England cap great defender.
Cristiano Ronaldo (By some)
Because (some) people don't like him his a person his achievements as a footballer are not recognised (by some)
Souness had it all
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Originally Posted by J R Hartley
Iniesta only because he deserved to win at least one ballon dor
Dennis Irwin.
Stephen McPhail
HmmmmmQuote:
Originally Posted by J R Hartley
I've always thought Scott Parker was a very underrated player - Dennis Irwin is a good shout as well.
Is underrated and underappreciated the same thing? I don't think it is because I always thought most City fans knew that Steve McPhail was a very talented player, but there were many who never really appreciated what he bought to the team.
No he was worseQuote:
Originally Posted by Kris
Along with Cameron Toshack Andy Kerr and Joe Jordan's son, (cannot even remember his name) Heard would get into a lot of fans who had the misfortune to watch him not performing, all time worst City 11
Parker did win a footballer of the year award!Quote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
Agree with Irwin. Robbie Keane is also fairly underrated - he's one of the top international scorers of all time. A similar player (even looks similar) is Klose. Top German goalscorer, all-time top scorer at the World Cup, finished at least third in four World Cups (surely no other player has played in four World Cup semifinals), played in two finals and won it too.
For current players, Eriksen is a overshadowed by Alli and Kane at Spurs and probably deserves more attention.
I would go for John McGovern. Even those of us who watched a lot of football in the 1970s barely remember him. You never noticed him, but after watching a lot of old games on YouTube I can now see why Clough valued him so highly. He was a master of the interception and then making a telling pass. Some of those mentioned so far were very highly rated - Hoddle, Currie,etc. All eyes used to be on them. But McGovern was overlooked by everyone except those like Clough who really understood the game.
Wasnt aimed at you mate honest, but if the cap fits :hehe:Quote:
Originally Posted by thehumblegringo
You are not alone in your hatred for Ronaldo, which I think clouds a lot of peoples judgements when admitting how good he actually is.
Ronaldo doesn't get as much praise as he is basically a poacher now.
And hes got his own bloody museum. :hehe:
Heskey gets far too much stick, you don't score 110 times in the Premier League if you're hopeless. Also, Owen says he's the best strike partner he's ever had.
[QUOTE=LordKenwyne;4746870]Ronaldo doesn't get as much praise as he is basically a poacher now.
Are you serious?:shrug:
[QUOTE=Hilts;4746878]He barely beats a man now, that isn't his game. Years ago he'd fly past them.Quote:
Originally Posted by LordKenwyne
The best finisher in the world though.
And just eighteen England caps - should have been at least double that.Quote:
Originally Posted by lardy
[QUOTE=LordKenwyne;4746884]I'm starting to think you've never watched a football match in your life.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hilts
:hehe:Quote:
Originally Posted by J R Hartley
If I'm i know my dislike of his character clouds my judgement with regards to him but it's people over estimation of him and lack of football understanding that grips my shit.
Whenever i see the statement "Ronaldo is the complete footballer, he is fast, he can shoot powerfully off both feet, he can jump, head the ball etc" i feel like throwing my phone through the window.
I hate when people just judge football on physical attributes when the brain is just as if not more important.
As you know my favourite type of players are people like Messi, Iniesta, David Silva who do things which make me think "how the hell did he see that!"
Ronaldo is the second best player in the world mate but Messi is on another level.
[QUOTE=Croesy Blue;4746897]What?.Quote:
Originally Posted by LordKenwyne
He goes missing in the vast majority of games but still scores loads. That is a fact.
Madrid fans were booing him :hehe:
He is an out and out striker now I think, not a winger.
He's still one of my favourite players and I watch every madrid game.
The fact he is changing his game doesn't take anything away from him. It is inevitable.
One thing i will add though is Ronaldo's dedication has got to be second to none. I was listening to Guillem Balague a while back and he said that Ronaldo has changed his whole body composition over the last year in order to become more suited to being a striker rather than a winger.Quote:
Originally Posted by thehumblegringo
When he was young at Lisbon he used to sneak into the club gym at night and do weights and he used to race cars at traffic lights!
[QUOTE=LordKenwyne;4746902]Madrid fans boo everyone. They are more deluded than the fans who booed Whitts.Quote:
Originally Posted by Croesy Blue
He hasnt played as an out and out winger since his United days and if he was just a poacher he wouldnt have 11 assists this season.
I think thart his single mindedness is his best and worst quality. He obviously wouldnt be the players he is without that attitude but sometimes that goes too far and he plays for personal glory rather than the team and thats why some dislike him.Quote:
Originally Posted by thehumblegringo
Peter Whittingham. :ayatollah:
[QUOTE=J R Hartley;4746946]Booing Whittingham is stupid, the manager should have been booed.Quote:
Originally Posted by LordKenwyne
He has been used poorly for ages, as he isn't good enough to play all game every game now.
Internationally - Ian Wright
frank worthington for me
I think zlatan summed it up perfectly when he said Ronaldo is like a trained product but Messi is pure natural talent and me personally I would pay double the money to watch Messi over RonaldoQuote:
Originally Posted by thehumblegringo
Michael Carrick.
The footballers footballer.
Criminally underused by England who decided to persist with Lampard/Gerrard farce. On that theme you can throw in Paul Scholes.
But he's not 'underrated' though.Quote:
Originally Posted by J R Hartley
Even people who dislike him don't underrate him... Just 'overhate' him.
Magnificent player. And would do football the world of good if he actually came out properly, saying that his partner is not such a great guy.