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For those saying that Muslims should speak out and condem the extremists.
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Mosques reporting people is where we get a lot of intelligences on potential terrorists too
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I bet this won't get much of a mention in the Daily Nazi
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itkman
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Yeah well they should speak out and condemn the extremists.
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BLUETIT
That should be getting more publicity.
It doesnt seem to serve the agenda of some newspapers.
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The terrorists have had it, Millwall are getting involved now
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...errorists.html
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This is where we are with some people.
We all need to have a reality check here muslims are taking over our country and is so serious I fear for all my children friends community. ........Stop buying goods from their shops ....they have local stores everywhere ignore them in the streets ...dont go to their restaurant's. ........do not communicate with them ....as you cannot trust any of them .....think of youre children .....I have seen just in st helens road swansea muslims were actually selling knives on the street .....shocking
Before spelling police and the anti Swansea brigade get here I dont agree with the sentiments but I feel her fear and understand her irrational chain of thought. I know this person , who is genuine caring person generally , wouldn't hurt a fly.
The media attention has to be more balanced or we are in danger of more people becoming irrational and anti muslim.
Thats the reaction the cowardly terrorist wankers want.
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On my local news last night, a few mosques in Bristol are having open days and attempting to become part of the local community, the Imam was saying that " IS and the terrorists do not represent his religion "
which is great to hear, it truly is
but we have said it before, this should have been happening right at the start, too many times they appear to turn a bind eye, when young men travel to Afganistan / Syria, they are not really going to " study "
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Originally Posted by
Jimmy the Jock
This is where we are with some people.
We all need to have a reality check here muslims are taking over our country and is so serious I fear for all my children friends community. ........Stop buying goods from their shops ....they have local stores everywhere ignore them in the streets ...dont go to their restaurant's. ........do not communicate with them ....as you cannot trust any of them .....think of youre children .....I have seen just in st helens road swansea muslims were actually selling knives on the street .....shocking
Before spelling police and the anti Swansea brigade get here I dont agree with the sentiments but I feel her fear and understand her irrational chain of thought. I know this person , who is genuine caring person generally , wouldn't hurt a fly.
The media attention has to be more balanced or we are in danger of more people becoming irrational and anti muslim.
Thats the reaction the cowardly terrorist wankers want.
I think you're spot on James. The media in general, and more specifically the likes of Katie Hopkins, not forgetting of course politicians like Farage, need to take a long hard look at themselves. Of course they have to report on such atrocities, but as you say, they need to tone down the sensationalism, all that does is whip up more fear, more hate, more division (which is pretty much doing part of the terrorists job for them)
I'm not going to stop visiting shops and restaurants that are owned by Muslims, I have never, not once, had an experience of a Muslim being rude to me or giving me any sort of shit (unlike some of my own ethnicity) but I too understand your friend's reaction, these days I do look one extra time when crossing the road, and make sure I'm aware of what's happening around me when walking to work, so I get it. But it is a real tragedy when an otherwise rational person starts thinking irrationally.
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ian gibson
If that is true that is amazing bravery. Millwall run from no one.
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Originally Posted by
blue matt
On my local news last night, a few mosques in Bristol are having open days and attempting to become part of the local community, the Imam was saying that " IS and the terrorists do not represent his religion "
which is great to hear, it truly is
but we have said it before, this should have been happening right at the start, too many times they appear to turn a bind eye, when young men travel to Afganistan / Syria, they are not really going to " study "
Time for everyone to learn from their mistakes , including the security forces. What has gone, has gone raking over the past wont find a solution.
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Originally Posted by
blue matt
On my local news last night, a few mosques in Bristol are having open days and attempting to become part of the local community, the Imam was saying that " IS and the terrorists do not represent his religion "
which is great to hear, it truly is
but we have said it before, this should have been happening right at the start, too many times they appear to turn a bind eye, when young men travel to Afganistan / Syria, they are not really going to " study "
They seem to have been doing it for a while, although tbf you're not going to read about it in the Daily Mail http://www.visitmymosque.org/
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Jimmy the Jock
If that is true that is amazing bravery. Millwall run from no one.
From what I've been told he is a well known Millwall fan who takes no shit from anyone.
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ian gibson
Brilliant stuff.
All joking aside, it's what these cowardly pieces of shit need to encounter.
Perhaps some sort of immunity law could be implemented so that no charges will be brought for any action taken by the public against people committing terrorist acts?
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Originally Posted by
TH63
I think you're spot on James. The media in general, and more specifically the likes of Katie Hopkins, not forgetting of course politicians like Farage, need to take a long hard look at themselves. Of course they have to report on such atrocities, but as you say, they need to tone down the sensationalism, all that does is whip up more fear, more hate, more division (which is pretty much doing part of the terrorists job for them)
I'm not going to stop visiting shops and restaurants that are owned by Muslims, I have never, not once, had an experience of a Muslim being rude to me or giving me any sort of shit (unlike some of my own ethnicity) but I too understand your friend's reaction, these days I do look one extra time when crossing the road, and make sure I'm aware of what's happening around me when walking to work, so I get it. But it is a real tragedy when an otherwise rational person starts thinking irrationally.
Good post.
Like you, I've never had a bad experience with any Muslim (apart from that little shit Adz and his defence of crap music) and I'm certailny not going to stop using any shops, takeaways and the like.
Of course people need to be vigilant but the reality is the only way to show these pricks that we won't be beaten is to stick two fingers up to them and carry on going to football matches, gigs, restaurants, shops etc.
The other thing we need to do is acknowledge that most muslims are just as pissed off about this shit as the rest of us - in fact I'd guess that it's more disheartening for them because more and more people now look at all muslims as part of the problem.
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Dr Lecter
Brilliant stuff.
All joking aside, it's what these cowardly pieces of shit need to encounter.
Perhaps some sort of immunity law could be implemented so that no charges will be brought for any action taken by the public against people committing terrorist acts?
Yes, part of me wishes those three pieces of shit had walked into a pub full of millwall, knives or not, a dozen or so Millwall fans would've battered them.
With my sensible head on though, I'd be a bit concerned about giving the likes of the EDL carte Blanche to get all Charles Bronson on anyone who looks a bit too brown.
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Originally Posted by
blue matt
On my local news last night, a few mosques in Bristol are having open days and attempting to become part of the local community, the Imam was saying that " IS and the terrorists do not represent his religion "
which is great to hear, it truly is
but we have said it before, this should have been happening right at the start, too many times they appear to turn a bind eye, when young men travel to Afganistan / Syria, they are not really going to " study "
It's been going on for years it's just never reported.
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Originally Posted by
Jimmy the Jock
This is where we are with some people.
We all need to have a reality check here muslims are taking over our country and is so serious I fear for all my children friends community. ........Stop buying goods from their shops ....they have local stores everywhere ignore them in the streets ...dont go to their restaurant's. ........do not communicate with them ....as you cannot trust any of them .....think of youre children .....I have seen just in st helens road swansea muslims were actually selling knives on the street .....shocking
Before spelling police and the anti Swansea brigade get here I dont agree with the sentiments but I feel her fear and understand her irrational chain of thought. I know this person , who is genuine caring person generally , wouldn't hurt a fly.
The media attention has to be more balanced or we are in danger of more people becoming irrational and anti muslim.
Thats the reaction the cowardly terrorist wankers want.
I too understand her sentiment but not her rational.This oversimplistic view presupposes that all muslims are to blame for these atrocities.Its a bit like blaming all the Irish people for the atrocities commited by the IRA.Also,intimidation plays a large part in this within the community itself.To be honest if we went down the road suggested by this person it would only serve to make matters worse.Divided communities violent towards each other would be seen by these bastards as a magnificent victory
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Originally Posted by
TH63
I think you're spot on James. The media in general, and more specifically the likes of Katie Hopkins, not forgetting of course politicians like Farage, need to take a long hard look at themselves. Of course they have to report on such atrocities, but as you say, they need to tone down the sensationalism, all that does is whip up more fear, more hate, more division (which is pretty much doing part of the terrorists job for them)
I'm not going to stop visiting shops and restaurants that are owned by Muslims, I have never, not once, had an experience of a Muslim being rude to me or giving me any sort of shit (unlike some of my own ethnicity) but I too understand your friend's reaction, these days I do look one extra time when crossing the road, and make sure I'm aware of what's happening around me when walking to work, so I get it. But it is a real tragedy when an otherwise rational person starts thinking irrationally.
Maybe I'm out of touch, but I can genuinely say that I don't recognise the world as reported in the more sensationalist elements of the media. I've had two bad experiences with people from the area of the world where you most associate Muslims as coming from (they may well not have been Muslims) - I referred to the first of them in the Echo column I used to write at the time of the Malky Mackay racism story and admitted that it was entirely my own fault (the incident occurred in 1981). The second one happened recently when a woman started shouting at me to control my dog when it was obvious that my poor old mutt was not remotely interested in her and this caused me to give her some lip back, but that's it, that's the sum total of my disagreements in life with people who may, or may not, have been Muslims.
Therefore, I'm like you, I'm not going to change my life because of a threat which I concede is there, but not to the degree that it's portrayed as being.
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In fairness to Sadiq Khan he does seem to be doing his bit, and he's doing a good job despite what that vacuous asshole across the Atlantic is tweeting.
I did read a lot of Mosques are turning away the three assailants bodies for funerals.
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THere's a good twitter thread here about how Anjem Chowdary stage managed himself to look like a muslim leader.
https://twitter.com/mrjammyjamjar3/s...31121419546624
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Originally Posted by
Dr Lecter
Brilliant stuff.
All joking aside, it's what these cowardly pieces of shit need to encounter.
Perhaps some sort of immunity law could be implemented so that no charges will be brought for any action taken by the public against people committing terrorist acts?
I am sure it does, i remember John Smeaton the airport worker in Glasgow who had over 1000 pints bought for him in 2 days when they set up the gofundme page. Glasgow the only place where terrorist need police protection
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Leaving aside deluded nutters of the Muslim faith killing Britons for a moment, our progeny will be citizens of a UK that has a majority Muslim population in as little as 50-75 years. That same scenario also applies to France, Germany, Sweden, Holland and Belgium, and it'll all be by design. You can blame traitorous politicians for deliberately engineering this cultural suicide. We can also look in the mirror for allowing it to happen.
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Originally Posted by
Organ Morgan.
Leaving aside deluded nutters of the Muslim faith killing Britons for a moment, our progeny will be citizens of a UK that has a majority Muslim population in as little as 50-75 years. That same scenario also applies to France, Germany, Sweden, Holland and Belgium, and it'll all be by design. You can blame traitorous politicians for deliberately engineering this cultural suicide. We can also look in the mirror for allowing it to happen.
If you mean that Islam is the religion with the highest number of followers, then it's possible (though I doubt it) because the number of Christians is falling. Most church congregations are on the wrong side of 60 and younger generations are not so religious.
If you meant that 50% of the population is Muslim, then not a chance.
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Originally Posted by
TH63
I think you're spot on James. The media in general, and more specifically the likes of Katie Hopkins, not forgetting of course politicians like Farage, need to take a long hard look at themselves. Of course they have to report on such atrocities, but as you say, they need to tone down the sensationalism, all that does is whip up more fear, more hate, more division (which is pretty much doing part of the terrorists job for them)
I'm not going to stop visiting shops and restaurants that are owned by Muslims, I have never, not once, had an experience of a Muslim being rude to me or giving me any sort of shit (unlike some of my own ethnicity) but I too understand your friend's reaction, these days I do look one extra time when crossing the road, and make sure I'm aware of what's happening around me when walking to work, so I get it. But it is a real tragedy when an otherwise rational person starts thinking irrationally.
Are you a rational thinker? Your position seems to be that those who condemn others are to be condemned.
By the way, what is the point of saying Muslims have never harmed you. Is Islam Ok as long as it is not harming you personally?
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If Katie Hopkins had come out with that bollox that the woman from Swansea come out with she would be condemned by all on this thread. Instead we have the usual gang of sympathisers making excuses for her, blaming it on her being brainwashed by the media. :hehe:
And yet the very same people are accusing the media of having double standards.
Laughable.
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J R Hartley
If Katie Hopkins had come out with that bollox that the woman from Swansea come out with she would be condemned by all on this thread. Instead we have the usual gang of sympathisers making excuses for her, blaming it on her being brainwashed by the media. :hehe:
And yet the very same people are accusing the media of having double standards.
Laughable.
Has it occurred to you that the viewpoint of that Swansea woman is exactly the same as most Muslims in the UK? They will not deal with you if there is a Muslim alternative.
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Originally Posted by
Organ Morgan.
Leaving aside deluded nutters of the Muslim faith killing Britons for a moment, our progeny will be citizens of a UK that has a majority Muslim population in as little as 50-75 years. That same scenario also applies to France, Germany, Sweden, Holland and Belgium, and it'll all be by design. You can blame traitorous politicians for deliberately engineering this cultural suicide. We can also look in the mirror for allowing it to happen.
I sometimes think we are the only sane ones on this forum. Although after reading some of your stories I even have doubts about you. The grandchildren of most of the posters on here will be Muslims. Of course, that is assuming that most posters on here are aged about 15.
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They may not become Muslims but the female ones will likely have to by law wear a headscarf or veil in public.
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Originally Posted by
Organ Morgan.
They may not become Muslims but the female ones will likely have to by law wear a headscarf or veil in public.
Why do you say that, when in the vast majority of muslim countries it is not a legal requirement? Do you think the UK is going to turn into Saudi Arabia?
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If this is correct and reports are being made , and those receiving and the analysis is wrong , they should be sacked never mind blaming politicians they think its being covered , they cant stand over their work desks .
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lardy
Why do you say that, when in the vast majority of muslim countries it is not a legal requirement? Do you think the UK is going to turn into Saudi Arabia?
Well, yes. That's the brand Saudi is exporting via its proxy ISIS. If you reckon you'll be around in circa 2070 I suggest you practice a spot of daily Allahu Akbar-ing in readiness.
:ayatollah:
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Organ Morgan.
They may not become Muslims but the female ones will likely have to by law wear a headscarf or veil in public.
What a load of bollocks. Most 'muslims' I know in the uk are like the 'christians' I know in that they don't actually follow the religion or do anything religious at all.
Yet again people are scared to death because of the small number of militant members.
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David Vincent
I sometimes think we are the only sane ones on this forum. Although after reading some of your stories I even have doubts about you. The grandchildren of most of the posters on here will be Muslims. Of course, that is assuming that most posters on here are aged about 15.
Don't be stupid.
The grandchildren will all be Jedi Knights.
Hoods up, and may the force be with you!
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this also looks good
Are we beginning to see Muslims using the press to push the message home ? ? ?
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...P=share_btn_fb
We need more of this, more the the general population of Muslims speaking out, making it clear they are not welcome in the Mosques
maybe these recent series of attacks are the turning point of all decent Muslims
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You are aware, that martyrs that die killing kaffur require no prayers in islamic scripture?They go straight to paradise.
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David Vincent
Are you a rational thinker? Your position seems to be that those who condemn others are to be condemned.
By the way, what is the point of saying Muslims have never harmed you. Is Islam Ok as long as it is not harming you personally?
All I'm saying here is that the muslims with whom I've interacted with seem decent people and I'm not going to change that because of the actions of a few. In a similar way, I like most Americans I've met despite the fact that some of them are complete arseholes.